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"MSI Fast Boot" and "Fast Boot"
« on: 29-October-12, 21:51:33 »

Hi there,

I have an MSI Z77A-GD65 and have just installed Windows 8 Pro and configured it to boot using the UEFI Windows Boot Manager.

I'm trying to get an optimal fast boot as shown in some of the Microsoft videos and have a question about some of the firmware settings -

  • MSI Fast Boot
  • Fast Boot

Does anyone know what the difference between these two settings is? - enabling the "MSI Fast Boot" hides and removes the other "Fast Boot" option but does not appear to have any discernible difference in reality.

Also I have tried enabling the "Windows 8 Feature" but receive a pop-up message telling me that my discrete video card (PowerColor PCS+ 7950) is not Windows 8 Logo and does not support GOP. It then disables the "Windows 8 Feature".

Does anyone have the "Windows 8 Feature" working with a discrete graphics card I am thinking that it may only work with the Intel HD graphics integrated on the CPU.

Many thanks

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« Reply #1 on: 29-October-12, 21:57:20 »

For full win8 compatibility the vbios of a vga requires support for the Graphics Output Protocol (GOP) which is a UEFI Feature (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/hh997769.aspx). Only newer vgas support GOP. As vga and board need to support GOP the system won't post with a vga using a GOP compatible hybrid vbios when the board has no GOP compatible bios. That is what keeps some vga manufacturers from offering cards with such a vbios and that is what caused no post problems with recent MSI GTX660(ti) cards (which came with hybrid vbios out of the box). 
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« Reply #2 on: 29-October-12, 22:44:24 »

Thanks flobelix

Any idea on the difference between "MSI Fast Boot" and "Fast Boot"?

I'm not holding out much hope for a UEFI GOP VBIOS for the Radeon card :( - I would enable the Lucid Virtu support but I'm running eyefinity which I believe isn't compatible with Virtu.
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« Reply #3 on: 31-October-12, 16:40:10 »

Hi ~D4rk-S4v4nt~

I have same board as you and also just updated to W8 Pro, installed on SSD but only have HD4000 at the moment.  I'm using the latest beta bios A71 and thought I'd take a look into this as part of getting my install nicely configured.

The MSI Fast Boot also has a utility app to switch this on and off within Windows from the system tray, i.e. load stay resident app.  This app doesn't appear to be available from MSI UK website, I had to download it from the US site, on motherboard product page.

With MSI Fast Boot switched on with the app (also enabled in BIOS), I'm assuming this is with the switch covering the word 'Off' and the word 'On' showing, this toggles the MSI Fast Boot option in the BIOS to enabled when the word 'On' is showing in the app.  The app is also useful as a neater way of getting back into the BIOS rather than repeatedly hitting the Delete key during boot up.

I think you also need hibernation enabled as some people with an SSD may be used to disabling it, if it's not enabled you won't have the 'Turn on fast start-up' option in the 'Power Options' > 'Choose what the power buttons do' > 'Shutdown settings' section.

This is not as fast as some of the W8 demos I've seen either so I thought I'd enable the W8 Feature in the BIOS which has caused me some grief as it then failed to boot and dropped me into the EFI Shell as shown below.  What's more I couldn't get back to the Click BIOS for a while as resetting the CMOS resulted in the reset BIOS screen where you need to press F1 or F2 but it had lost my wireless USB keyboard / mouse connection.  Eventually after moving the Logitech Unifying receiver to another USB port and resetting the BIOS again it regained connection with the keyboard/mouse so I could choose F1/F2 but still ended up in EFI shell where I had to enter 'exit' to escape into Click BIOS.
 
Conclusion:

Whether I have MSI Fast Boot enabled or not seems to make no difference, either way I achieve around 20 seconds from a cold boot.

Even though I'm using an Ivy processor with Z77 chipset I can't get the Windows 8 Feature in the BIOS to give me W8 Fast Boot.  Unsure whether this is due to not having a discreet graphics card or a fault with the BIOS? It seems odd that if the BIOS doesn't detect suitable hardware that it wouldn't make the feature unavailable.

« Last Edit: 01-November-12, 00:08:51 by thenewoc »
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« Reply #4 on: 31-October-12, 18:18:44 »

MSI Fast Boot has to do with memory checking and remapping I believe.

I'll find out exactly and get back to you.
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« Reply #5 on: 02-November-12, 02:02:16 »

I was wrong, they are related to win8, which I am downloading now to play with.

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Fast Boot is intended for Windows 8.
“Enables or disables boot with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch active boot option.”
Note: It has no effect on BBS boot options.
 
Fast Boot option may typically contains the following sub-options in the BIOS.
1.       VGA Support – EFI Driver
2.       USB Support – Full Initial / Partial Initial / Disabled
3.       PS2 Devices Support – Enabled / Disabled
4.       Network Stack Driver Support – Enabled / Disabled


PS: Sorry for the delay, have been clearing trees for people.
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« Reply #6 on: 23-March-13, 13:13:02 »

So,what`s bettter to use? :think:
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