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Bits/Lites, S/W Pirates, Hacks, and Cracks
« on: 21-December-13, 08:33:51 »

Seems more and more threads are recently showing up concerning questionable practices. An easy tipoff for Bit and Lite miners is when a rather large number of graphics cards are involved. It was good to see a forum moderator the other day make it clear that the forum is not going to offer any support to posters that may or may not be involved in shady endeavors.

For the sake of argument, let's say one poster has nothing but good intent, and will be conducting everything legal. The problem with helping that one honest person is this, if he is assisted to get the machine functional, nothing will stop the bad guys from reading the thread and copying the resolve. In essence, the bad guys end up getting helped. So the policy of no help is the right policy.

How many times have we seen threads started of someone that can't remember their password? Yeah, right. That has 'stolen property' stamped all over it. Either that or the owner is a real el stupido to have forgotten it.

Last but not least, then comes the software thieves. Thanks to those morons, we are forced with install limits, mandatory online registrations to even play a game we bought and paid for. This stuff still gets hacked and cracked in spite of all the efforts to stop it and is easily available at a number of pirate sites. Some countries, which I won't openly mention, are S/W bootleggers to the extreme.

Some are snickering reading this right now on how they think they are beating the system and the honest people of this world. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits! 

And for the record, of which has nothing to do with s/w pirate activities, the definition of the user name PirateDog = one who sniffs out, hunts down, and crushes bad guys like a grape! Release the hounds! The hunt is on!
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« Reply #1 on: 26-December-13, 22:34:45 »

Excellent forum moderators explanation as to the policy here in an iX Section thread;

"As for your complaining alot of people do bitcoin and litecoin mining for bad purposes and we cannot take someone's word that they are not as there words cannot be trusted as people will not admit that oh i'm doing it to launder money or buy drugs or a hitman or whatever so its a grey area and with all the recent cases of people doing illegal stuff with them (the silk road comes to mind) that is a potential legal mine field so we are reluctant to help people do so! (you probably are not but we treat everyone the same as a potential problem (so we put that into the same area as Password hacking/cracking, illegal software ect) but if we make exceptions then it gets complicated very quickly and to avoid lawsuits and so on its off limits).

This is a user to user forum and that stance is not MSI's its this forums as its run by users to help other users (MSI HQ Users-to-Users Forum) and we are just like you and use MSI made equipment ourself's and the moderator team and admins have decided its not a good thing to help with as we would be personally responsible for helping someone with a activity that is potential illegal and would be open to court actions individually so sorry for our own protection we can not"!
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« Reply #2 on: 27-December-13, 00:03:44 »

thank you for adding my post to your thread piratedog I tried to explain it to the guy but he didn't get it and i was trying to be as clear as possible to avoid confusion!  :hat tip:
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« Reply #3 on: 27-December-13, 00:28:22 »

 :agrees: :biggthumbsup:
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« Reply #4 on: 27-December-13, 00:53:28 »

Piratedog and badboy,

Please explain how bit and lite mining is illegal
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« Reply #5 on: 27-December-13, 01:24:29 »

It can be/could be used for illegal endeavors, money laundering, etc., and that is enough to throw a dark cloud over it. As with most things in this world that may start out as up front and honest, somebody figures out a way to corrupt and twist it into something much different.
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« Reply #6 on: 27-December-13, 02:38:54 »

Mining creates (this is a simplification) cryptocurrency based upon the miner's hardware power.  You do not directly convert conventional currency into cryptocurrency by mining.  Thus, the max amount of money you could launder (and I question whether this could truly be considered laundering) by mining would be the cost of electricity used to run the hardware.  Unless you have many, many rigs running in parallel, this amount would be trivial (a 6 card rig would consume less than $300 a month).  Basically, mining is not an effective way to launder money, especially if you consider all the money that must be used to create each rig (~$2500 per 6 card rig). 

Mining is a legitimate enterprise as long as necessary taxes are paid on the capital gains from mining.  I dont see why you should mistreat miners on this forum unless you have evidence of illegal activity.  Based

Your other accusations are vague.  Please be more specific.
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