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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #51 on: 31-August-15, 18:59:36 »

Thank You sir for this invaluable post.. i was struggling with internet speeds from my provider and had like 3 -4 technicians visit to identify the  problem.. until I finally figured something could be wrong with the mobo's lan card.. which shouldn't have been the issue if msi had proper drivers for the lan card on this mobo ( max power z87 ) from the beginning it self...

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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #52 on: 01-September-15, 09:25:59 »

:hat tip:
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #53 on: 03-September-15, 14:05:30 »

I can connect to internet but get "limited", might this fix that?

Here's a post I created on the subject if you might need more details on my issue.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=260524.0;topicseen
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #54 on: 04-September-15, 12:32:07 »

This thread is for Intel mainboard section. Stick to your thread in notebook section.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #55 on: 30-October-15, 19:35:24 »

Right,

The reason why this fix is not applicable to some because they 'clearly have another problem' or 'cant follow the non official representative of MSI's instructions' is because the information is half baked and theres some insistance that as admins they are absolutely correct. Despite following the various different instructions and bad work arounds here, i have still constantly had the issue of dropouts. Its not another issue, its not windows, its not my hardware, its exactly the same problem that admins here claim to have found a solution for, that they havent fixed. Ive finally completely smashed it out on my machine and have found additional clues to the problem on my MSI GE62 2DQ Apache - The SOLE issue i have with this wonderful machine has been the god awful killer ethernet drivers.Why the f some clown thought it would be a good idea to have a hard wired ethernet port that disconnected will still interfere with a connected wifi network is beyond dumb, and anyone who thinks these types of devices ACTUALLY increase any network traffic flow must be about 12 years old. Even the theory is suspect... but i digest. I dont use a wired ethernet connection at all, i use WiFi exclusively, so to have an ethernet device cause issues with my wifi network p****s me off to no end.

First of all - Remember its actually an ATHEROS AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30) - This is what it will display directly in device manager WHEN YOU HAVE CORRECTLY FIXED THE ISSUE
OTHERWISE IT WILL KEEP ON DISPLAYING AS A KILLER ETHERNET DEVICE AND WILL REMAIN NON FUNCTIONAL.

Heres the poop -
Disabling the ethernet in your device manager doesnt stop the dropouts. It DOES however result in faster and sometimes even instant reconnections. This is sketchy tho.
I have no idea what this killer cleaner stuff does, as it seemed to do literally nothing that using the standard windows 'uninstall program' function does. It doesnt remove keys or drivers, only the killer suite. That is all.

Heres how to fix it, so it actually works.
Go to the atheros website and download the suggested standalone drivers, ive given you the device name above.,
UNINSTALL the killer suite using the programs and features menu NOT killer cleaner. (didnt make any difference at all whether i used this or not. i suggest dont use it because i know my steps work)
UNINSTALL the device in device manager, checking the box for deleting the drivers. I find at this stage, im still connected to the internet, as at this stage your wifi card is working exactly the way it should, as a standalone device not connected by software to some half arsed rebranded network card. DISCONNECT from the internet. DO NOT go into airplane mode or anything. Just disconnect.
HERES THE PART THE ADMINS ARE MISSING
REGEDIT - Do repeated searches for 'killer' and 'e2200' - D.F.E. (Delete Effing Every) single key you find with either of those terms in it. ALL KEYS LISTING KILLER OR E2200 NO EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS, THEN EVEN IF YOU 'SUCCESSFULLY' INSTALL THE ATHEROS DRIVERS IT WINDOWS WILL A) - STILL LIST YOUR DEVICE AS KILLER ETHERNET AND B) - STILL ATTEMPT TO OVERRIDE YOUR OEM ATHEROS DRIVERS WITH RIVET/KILLER NETWORKS MICROSOFT SUPPLIED DRIVERS. - DO NOT RESTART AT THIS STAGE. Youll also notice when you read some of the notes on the registry keys something called 'Rivet networks' appearing - This also appears to be important but more on that in a moment.

THEN - Scan hardward for changes in device manager. Your device will now come up as a generic unknown ethernet device, THIS IS GOOD
Right click on the device not working - Properties - Update driver - Browse my computer - Let me pick from a list of drivers - Have disk - Locate the files for the drivers you just downloaded, and select the device i listed above **GO THROUGH IT IN THAT ORDER OR IT WILL STILL INSIST ON AUTOMATING THE PROCESS AND WILL RE-INSTALL THE DRIVERS YOU TOLD WINDOWS TO UNINSTALL AND DELETE, AND NOT THE DRIVERS YOU ARE TELLING IT TO INSTALL**

You will then see in your device manager - A Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 entry instead of Killer e2200 and youll very quickly find that you no longer get any dropouts. I did this last night, and have not had a dropout or connection problem since.

A FURTHER OBSERVATION - I then fired up my laptop this morning to keep an eye on whether this has worked and found that my computer had 'Failed' an update..... Windows has again, ATTEMPTED TO OVERRIDE MY DRIVER INSTALLATION by attempting to install what seems to be called some 'Rivet Networks' :censored:  so im guessing this is what micropoo are using to insist their software needs to be installed. Ill now have to find a way to block that from ever happening again so i can maintain some functionality during an update cycle. Ive never trusted an OEM with new drivers.

So, now you have the actual lowdown on why A) this problem was FAR from 'Solved' in these forums and B) what the issue is and how to fix it.

_NOW_ the problems are fixed.

Have a nice day.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #56 on: 02-November-15, 14:50:16 »

Hi all.  Just about to start a Z97 Gaming 5 build and the Killer Lan issue has my attention (big time!)  I've parsed everything in this forum and others as well and most (?all) of the proposed fixes assume that the Killer Suite/drivers have already been loaded (different approaches on ensuring complete removal of the Killer Suite bits and pieces).  My question is whether this problem can be wholesale avoided by loading the 'non-Killer' drivers made available by MSI (and/or Qualcomm) from the get-go and not the Suite??  Anyone have experience with this?  If it is possible, which NIC driver (MSI or Qualcomm) would be preferable?  Thanks for the collective wisdom...
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #57 on: 03-November-15, 06:31:16 »

you can go for latest one from Qualcomm
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #58 on: 03-November-15, 11:04:23 »

Tnx Svet.  Can anyone supply a link to directly download the latest Qualcomm driver?  I've poked around and have only found nonofficial sites...
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #60 on: 03-November-15, 14:42:33 »

Hate to be the noob here.  Tnx to you Svet, I found the latest Win7_64 drivers.  3 files but no installer.  How do I load these if I haven't loaded some other NIC driver first.  Device manager?  Will it show a default NIC?  Tnx much for the help!
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #61 on: 04-November-15, 05:33:14 »

you mean Standard Drivers (no Killer features) or?
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« Reply #62 on: 04-November-15, 07:54:14 »

right, standard drivers without Killer features.  have win7_64 os so downloaded the ke2200w7 files via the link you passed along.  will the os have a default NIC driver that I replace or is there some other method for installing the ke2200w7 files?  tnx again..
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #63 on: 04-November-15, 07:58:29 »

you have to go to device manager to locate your device with yellow mark or the network killer card,
then to right click and to point to the folder where those files are located and to select the .inf file from there.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #64 on: 17-November-15, 12:29:14 »

Could someone have Killer Cleaner 64 bit link download ? the link in this post is not available anymore ? :(

i am experience similar problems now if i download over 20 mbs per sec my network goes down, then it says my router is defect, i did not had this problem before with my x79 mainbord how do i fix this ?

I am using wired lan cable btw.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #65 on: 18-November-15, 11:00:50 »

Open an own topic.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #66 on: 30-December-15, 16:29:54 »

Is this still an issue or has MSI updated the killer suite so that all is well and safe to install?
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #67 on: 30-December-15, 17:24:46 »

Hi

It's rather random issue, and most commonly: caused by the whole suite (whereas installing just driver works perfectly fine).
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #68 on: 30-December-15, 18:54:27 »

Okay, thank you
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #69 on: 16-February-16, 20:24:39 »

Hi I am having the same problem with the killer network built in Lan.
My motherboard is the MSI Z97A Gaming 6 Motherboard.

I did everything that was suggested with no luck to fix it  :(  it keeps going out on me  :(
I did disable the on board Lan and and uninstalled all software and drivers then I went and got this Linksys USB3GIG USB 3.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter.

Now that USB Network Adapter is going out on me also,I don't know whats going on please help  :(  before anyone suggests it I am not going
to send it back just cause of the on board Lan,everything else works awesome  :)  its about a month old the motherboard I mean.

Curious could a bad network cable cause this problem? The network cable is about 3 years old or more,its CAT 5e Enhanced 500Mhz,I will be getting
CAT 7 sometime soon.

One more question in a few months I plan to get this Motherboard X99A GODLIKE GAMING Motherboard,does that have the same problems like the other boards with Killer Network?  I hope not for a board that is almost $600.  

Or I might wait and get the X99A GODLIKE GAMING CARBON Motherboard.

Thank you in advance for the help.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #70 on: 17-February-16, 22:38:49 »

barrekj, please open an own thread.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #71 on: 19-February-16, 13:26:26 »

barrekj, please open an own thread.
I will but may I ask why?  if I did that at other forums I would get yelled at for opening multiple forums for the same subject.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #72 on: 20-February-16, 04:49:46 »

Because the rules of this forum don't allow resurrecting old threads. especially when your issue is not really what the thread is about. >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #73 on: 27-May-16, 08:49:11 »

Right,

The reason why this fix is not applicable to some because they 'clearly have another problem' or 'cant follow the non official representative of MSI's instructions' is because the information is half baked and theres some insistance that as admins they are absolutely correct. Despite following the various different instructions and bad work arounds here, i have still constantly had the issue of dropouts. Its not another issue, its not windows, its not my hardware, its exactly the same problem that admins here claim to have found a solution for, that they havent fixed. Ive finally completely smashed it out on my machine and have found additional clues to the problem on my MSI GE62 2DQ Apache - The SOLE issue i have with this wonderful machine has been the god awful killer ethernet drivers.Why the f some clown thought it would be a good idea to have a hard wired ethernet port that disconnected will still interfere with a connected wifi network is beyond dumb, and anyone who thinks these types of devices ACTUALLY increase any network traffic flow must be about 12 years old. Even the theory is suspect... but i digest. I dont use a wired ethernet connection at all, i use WiFi exclusively, so to have an ethernet device cause issues with my wifi network p****s me off to no end.

First of all - Remember its actually an ATHEROS AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30) - This is what it will display directly in device manager WHEN YOU HAVE CORRECTLY FIXED THE ISSUE
OTHERWISE IT WILL KEEP ON DISPLAYING AS A KILLER ETHERNET DEVICE AND WILL REMAIN NON FUNCTIONAL.

Heres the poop -
Disabling the ethernet in your device manager doesnt stop the dropouts. It DOES however result in faster and sometimes even instant reconnections. This is sketchy tho.
I have no idea what this killer cleaner stuff does, as it seemed to do literally nothing that using the standard windows 'uninstall program' function does. It doesnt remove keys or drivers, only the killer suite. That is all.

Heres how to fix it, so it actually works.
Go to the atheros website and download the suggested standalone drivers, ive given you the device name above.,
UNINSTALL the killer suite using the programs and features menu NOT killer cleaner. (didnt make any difference at all whether i used this or not. i suggest dont use it because i know my steps work)
UNINSTALL the device in device manager, checking the box for deleting the drivers. I find at this stage, im still connected to the internet, as at this stage your wifi card is working exactly the way it should, as a standalone device not connected by software to some half arsed rebranded network card. DISCONNECT from the internet. DO NOT go into airplane mode or anything. Just disconnect.
HERES THE PART THE ADMINS ARE MISSING
REGEDIT - Do repeated searches for 'killer' and 'e2200' - D.F.E. (Delete Effing Every) single key you find with either of those terms in it. ALL KEYS LISTING KILLER OR E2200 NO EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS, THEN EVEN IF YOU 'SUCCESSFULLY' INSTALL THE ATHEROS DRIVERS IT WINDOWS WILL A) - STILL LIST YOUR DEVICE AS KILLER ETHERNET AND B) - STILL ATTEMPT TO OVERRIDE YOUR OEM ATHEROS DRIVERS WITH RIVET/KILLER NETWORKS MICROSOFT SUPPLIED DRIVERS. - DO NOT RESTART AT THIS STAGE. Youll also notice when you read some of the notes on the registry keys something called 'Rivet networks' appearing - This also appears to be important but more on that in a moment.

THEN - Scan hardward for changes in device manager. Your device will now come up as a generic unknown ethernet device, THIS IS GOOD
Right click on the device not working - Properties - Update driver - Browse my computer - Let me pick from a list of drivers - Have disk - Locate the files for the drivers you just downloaded, and select the device i listed above **GO THROUGH IT IN THAT ORDER OR IT WILL STILL INSIST ON AUTOMATING THE PROCESS AND WILL RE-INSTALL THE DRIVERS YOU TOLD WINDOWS TO UNINSTALL AND DELETE, AND NOT THE DRIVERS YOU ARE TELLING IT TO INSTALL**

You will then see in your device manager - A Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 entry instead of Killer e2200 and youll very quickly find that you no longer get any dropouts. I did this last night, and have not had a dropout or connection problem since.

A FURTHER OBSERVATION - I then fired up my laptop this morning to keep an eye on whether this has worked and found that my computer had 'Failed' an update..... Windows has again, ATTEMPTED TO OVERRIDE MY DRIVER INSTALLATION by attempting to install what seems to be called some 'Rivet Networks' :censored:  so im guessing this is what micropoo are using to insist their software needs to be installed. Ill now have to find a way to block that from ever happening again so i can maintain some functionality during an update cycle. Ive never trusted an OEM with new drivers.

So, now you have the actual lowdown on why A) this problem was FAR from 'Solved' in these forums and B) what the issue is and how to fix it.

_NOW_ the problems are fixed.

Have a nice day.
Hello! You seem like the one with the most experience with getting screwed over by killer products
My PC has been getting tons of BSODs nowadays and verifier.exe points towards a driver under killer e2200 found on my h87g43 gaming motherboard
Since there are only up to windows 8.1 64bit drivers (i am on windows 10 64bit)
Can i follow your instructions with windows 8.1 64bit drivers instead?
And how do i actually delete the killer thingy in the regedit?
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #74 on: 04-June-16, 15:49:11 »

I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #75 on: 08-June-16, 02:53:11 »

I'm having problems with drop-outs in audio or video with Killer e2200. Those Killer Cleaner link are returning a "404 Not Found" Error. Can we please get a new link?
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #76 on: 29-June-16, 05:14:17 »

I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.


Have the exact same issue (with Killer AC Wireless 1535), after a windows 10 update, the wifi connection was completely gone from Network and sharing center, taskbar and killer manager application) but I found it hidden in control panel so I uninstalled its driver.  
After uninstalling the Killer software via 'Programs and Features' I still have another one with an old version (Strange) which can not be uninstalled. I guess I have to use the killer cleaner to get rid of it first then follow your steps above. Hopefully, it will work. Fingers crossed.


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Yep back to windows after 10 years and bios error 1 is the first thing to see after windows 10 intial setup and wifi is gone after a windows update. How Lovely
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #77 on: 30-June-16, 03:52:12 »

I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.

   Quote from: mh.emara on Wed Jun 29 2016 12:14:17 GMT+0200 (W. Europe Standard Time)

    Have the exact same issue (with Killer AC Wireless 1535), after a windows 10 update, the wifi connection was completely gone from Network and sharing center, taskbar and killer manager application) but I found it hidden in control panel so I uninstalled its driver. 
    After uninstalling the Killer software via 'Programs and Features' I still have another one with an old version (Strange) which can not be uninstalled. I guess I have to use the killer cleaner to get rid of it first then follow your steps above. Hopefully, it will work. Fingers crossed.

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BIOS Version: EB106IMS.80F (Build date 10/06/2015), ME version 11.0.0.1178, EC version: 150922.0
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #78 on: 10-July-16, 00:40:08 »

I have an MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and would like to know what is currently considered the best driver option for the Killer NIC. I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.

Some time has gone by and driver updates have come out so I'm wondering if opinions have changed.

Should I run the whole Killer Suite, just the Killer driver or the Atheros driver?

I'm actually not a heavy gamer, but do some gaming. I talk to my friend a ton on Skype, like hours a day steady. Lots of web browsing and some streaming.
Stability is actually more important to me than raw performance and I want a connection that won't drop randomly while I'm streaming or Skyping.

Thanks in advance for suggestions and feedback!
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« Reply #79 on: 10-July-16, 06:39:22 »

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Stability is actually more important to me than raw performance and I want a connection that won't drop randomly while I'm streaming or Skyping.

i would suggest using standard killer drivers:
http://www.killernetworking.com/product-support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers
they are troubles free
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #80 on: 10-July-16, 12:00:10 »

i would suggest using standard killer drivers:
http://www.killernetworking.com/product-support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers
they are troubles free
So definitely don't bother with the Atheros drivers then? Just curious because isn't the Killer driver, even without the suite, still optimized to prioritize gaming traffic?
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #81 on: 10-July-16, 13:34:32 »

no, standard drivers don't control anything
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #82 on: 10-July-16, 14:08:38 »

no, standard drivers don't control anything


OK I'll take your advice then, but I have 1 last question just because I'm curious.

I compared the new bare Killer driver to the Atheros driver and it's the same 3 files types. A .cat file, an .inf file and a .sys file. The Killer files are all way smaller than the Atheros files, like super tiny. Any idea why? Are the Atheros drivers really bloated or something?

I just like to learn any time I can and am just asking the question to gain information and knowledge.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #83 on: 10-July-16, 14:09:26 »

which Atheros drivers you mean?
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #84 on: 10-July-16, 14:24:22 »

which Atheros drivers you mean?

If you look at post #19 in this thread, I followed their information and links.

Not sure if I can link other sites here, but the post and download link for the Atheros drivers which now cannot be obtained directly from Qualcom, can be found by doing the google search suggested in post #19 and will take you to a forum post on techpowerup.

Reviews I've read around the web about those drivers all seem to be very positive and that is why I am so curious about all this information.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #85 on: 10-July-16, 14:30:10 »

dunno can't comment such modification,
but official one stand alone drivers are working fine
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #86 on: 10-July-16, 14:39:05 »

dunno can't comment such modification,
but official one stand alone drivers are working fine

Oh no, I don't think they are modded drivers, just older drivers that people claim are very stable.

Anyway I won't worry about trying to use those drivers unless I have issues. Instead I will use the ones you suggested. Thank you for replying to all my questions. :)

Also in the future I will update in this thread to let people know the results I get with the drivers you suggested in case others have concerns and want confidence about them working well.
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #87 on: 12-October-16, 17:35:30 »

Hello 
Since 9 hours without any breaks i've been searching forums trying different solutions to fix my !!!!!IRQL_ NOT LESS OR EQUAL!!!! problem at windows 10 running system with i7 6700k msg gaming M7 motherboard.Rams work fine as i can see them on bios and they are totally new. Yesterday For installing Gears of War 4 i deleted Killer network suite then i decided to instal Suite again because i didn't know it causes that much problems.. then msi app wanted to restart comp, then BSOD all attempts.==== Can't format my hard drives with windows 10 neither windows 8 dvds coz each attempt i can't reach any screen instead that error page IRQL_ NOT LESS OR EQUAL!! Also Can't run my pc on safe mode  .Also I tried disable network lan from bios and it didn't work out as well. I'm stucked. Please suggest me some solutions.
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« Reply #88 on: 13-October-16, 18:27:14 »

It doesn't work... I've uninstalled the old driver and the Killer Suit, used the Killer Cleaner and installed the new driver from the "Killer E220x/Win7"-Folder. The installation worked fine but it seems that there is no lan-connection. Before, with the old driver, I had a ping about 17, download speed about 12mb and upload speed 1mb. Now I have a ping about 52, download speed 5mb and a upload speed about 0.60mb. This is the same result as if I'm just connected with wLan.

By the way: I'm going through a dlan-adapter in the internet.

And before I had the problem that the connection has often disrupted for no reason and I had internet speed-drop downs.

Has somebody an idea?

First off, get rid of the powerline adapter.  Seriously, worst networking idea since token ring.  You're better off using 802.11B wireless.  
If you prefer using a wired connection, I know I do, then pick up a cheap Intel NIC on amazon and disable the KillerNIC in the bios.  You'll save yourself a lot of time and a massive headache ;)
PCI Single Port NIC $26 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00030DEQE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=UN9DN32VCLVL&coliid=INIWTZ5R8CIMC
PCIe x1 Single Port NIC $27 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CY0P7G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=UN9DN32VCLVL&coliid=I334OUHYTJSMHS
PCIe x2 Dual Port NIC $24 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004T01KOC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=35DW2KS7XDY27&coliid=I20VPZLQ6Q6OCF
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #89 on: 22-January-17, 14:32:10 »

Hi guys

Just a useful tip that also might be causing this issue. I thought I also had this issue but it was something different entirely. After trying to re-install all the drivers and use killer cleaner, I discovered that my idiot brother blocked my network port on our router using a parental control application. I removed my PC from the list and then I got my internet connection back. Hope this helps you guys!

Motherboard: MSI Gaming 5
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Re: How to fix issues with Killer Lan
« Reply #90 on: 27-January-17, 13:54:05 »

This is why I have never purchased MSI with Killer softwares...Just a total turn off....!
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