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gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« on: 15-November-14, 08:03:59 »

Hi all,

As a newbie im looking for some assistance if at all possible.

ive got a hp pavillion h8-1070uk
8gb ddr3 ram,
ipisb-ch board with bios version 7.12 (lastest version)
gt545 3gb existing card installed
be quiet 630w psu with 48a output.

I'm trying to install a gtx970 gaming 4g and like a few others on here im getting to the bios screen then nothing further.  Ive read one post (which i cant find now) that there is a bios upgrade for the card to enable legacy bios over uefi (which I've been told is causing the problem).

is there such an upgrade available ? and how would i install it on the card if i cant get to a boot screen ??

Thanks in advance
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Re: gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« Reply #1 on: 15-November-14, 11:56:11 »

There is no legacy vbios for a GTX970 but just hybrid vbios versions supporting legacy and UEFI booting. These vbios versions will not work on older boards with a UEFI vbios not being GOP compliant. However UEFI or legacy vbios is NOT your problem as the system would else not post at all and you would not even see the bios screen. What you experience is a compatibility issue seen on many oem machines that are not updated properly. For socket 1155 board a ME8 bios is required to run vgas of the current generation.
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Re: gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« Reply #2 on: 15-November-14, 12:29:28 »

ok thanks for that.  guess its RMA time.

i dont suppose you would have any suggestions for a card that would run on this system ?

again thanks in advance
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Re: gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« Reply #3 on: 15-November-14, 14:05:41 »

Quote from: Peter Burns link=topic=184821.msg1326396#msg1326396 date=1416076168
ok thanks for that.  guess its RMA time.

 :think: RMA? Card is not defective but machine is too old and not updated by HP.

i dont suppose you would have any suggestions for a card that would run on this system ?

again thanks in advance

Ask HP what cards are compatible. GTX6x0 should work fine.
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Re: gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« Reply #4 on: 15-November-14, 19:51:41 »

There is no legacy vbios for a GTX970 but just hybrid vbios versions supporting legacy and UEFI booting. These vbios versions will not work on older boards with a UEFI vbios not being GOP compliant. However UEFI or legacy vbios is NOT your problem as the system would else not post at all and you would not even see the bios screen. What you experience is a compatibility issue seen on many oem machines that are not updated properly. For socket 1155 board a ME8 bios is required to run vgas of the current generation.
I don't suppose this is a variant on the same issue as the one I've posted about elsewhere on this forum (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184769.0)? I have a socket-1366 i7-950 on a legacy-BIOS ASUS P6X58D motherboard, which still has perfectly decent CPU performance for everything I need of it and I'm loathe to replace.

ASUS haven't updated the BIOS since 2012, and I'm on that version; the oddness is that whether the system boots or not depends on how I've connected my monitor and whether there's more than one.

I do see when googling around there are people using the same card with the Rampage II and other similar X58 boards of that era, so there may be a quirk specific to this board, card and place.
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Re: gtx 970 gaming 4g and legacy bios
« Reply #5 on: 15-November-14, 19:58:58 »

Well it's very possible that some people running systems only working with legacy OS has modified their GPU's vBIOS. But personally I don't think this is a good option.
Also we know and understand that many of older generations systems are still pretty good for today's gaming and usage, but companies like nvidia and amd don't care about past, they go for today or for the future. It's them making the chips and settings rules of what systems or generations cards will be compatible, and brands like MSI or Asus just make their own card that is running the chip, like MSI 970 might have 2xDisplay Port and 1xHDMI whereas Asus 970 might have 1xDP, 1xHDMI and 2xDVI; things are customised but chip will not be.
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