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MSI has developed a feature called SHIFT for the GT72. Even though the GT72 barely doesn’t run particularly hot, you might come across some scenarios where you might approach the thermal limits of the hardware, such as gaming outside or in offices without air conditioning in hot countries. Maybe you just don’t need all that performance, and want to limit the heat output, for comfort reasons? You can make sure you’ll stay inside thermal limits, both your own as well as the system’s with a simple key combo, completely independent of your operating system’s power profiles.



In short, you have three modes to choose from, when running on AC power:
Sport Mode: Overclocking of both CPU and GPU. Also activates Cooler Boost
Comfort Mode: CPU turbo is enabled, but GPU frequency is prohibited from ramping up into boost frequencies.
Green Mode: CPU turbo disabled, lower frequencies/voltage on both CPU and GPU. Lower revving fans.

The switch between SHIFT profiles is simple, done by pressing the Fn + F7 key combo, or via Dragon Gaming Center. As you’d expect, Sport Mode delivers the maximum potential of the hardware and the highest scores, while Comfort and Green Mode are a bit slower, but lowers the temperatures by a lot. Below, you can see the performance difference between the different profiles in 3DMark Fire Strike on the GT72.



There largest gains are in GPU temperatures though – by changing from Sport to Green Mode, you’ll see an 11°C drop in temperature and a full 14°C drop in CPU temperature.




SHIFT, therefore, is a handy tool which helps you control power consumption and thereby heat output. If you don’t need all the power, for example during lighter game loads, why not make sure the system runs quieter and cooler?

SHIFT is available on NVIDIA GTX 900M-series equipped GS60/70 as well as the GT72.
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SHIFT - power saving technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #1 on: 24-October-14, 06:28:55 »

Is it okay to change shift mode while running a game?
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« Reply #2 on: 26-October-14, 21:20:00 »

Quote from: dragonmonkey;113953
Is it okay to change shift mode while running a game?

Yes, this is no problem. It's just a question of frequencies and limits.
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« Reply #3 on: 28-October-14, 08:17:46 »

When I try to change shift mode while running on battery,i get a message to connect charger in order to change shift mode.Recently i have observed that sometimes when i am running on battery i am able to change the shift mode?Can anybody explain how it works?And also the while playing games which mode is best to use "High performance" (from dragon gaming centre) or "gaming mode"(system control manager also known as echo)
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« Reply #4 on: 29-October-14, 01:22:38 »

Quote from: dragonmonkey;114063
When I try to change shift mode while running on battery,i get a message to connect charger in order to change shift mode.Recently i have observed that sometimes when i am running on battery i am able to change the shift mode?Can anybody explain how it works?And also the while playing games which mode is best to use "High performance" (from dragon gaming centre) or "gaming mode"(system control manager also known as echo)


This is because Shift is only supported when running on AC power. You shouldn't be able to change Shift modes when running on battery, that's probably a bug in the software.
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« Reply #5 on: 29-October-14, 07:08:00 »

Quote from: dragonmonkey;114063
When I try to change shift mode while running on battery,i get a message to connect charger in order to change shift mode.Recently i have observed that sometimes when i am running on battery i am able to change the shift mode?Can anybody explain how it works?And also the while playing games which mode is best to use "High performance" (from dragon gaming centre) or "gaming mode"(system control manager also known as echo)

Try to update the Dragon Gaming Center to the latest version from MSI website.
Dragon Gaming Center(1.0.1410.1301):
http://download.msi.com/uti_exe/Dragon_Gaming_1.0.1410.1301.zip

The Gaming mode is the custom profile of the power plan settings created by MSI.
High performance is the default high performance of the power plan settings.
They are different in Sleep setting, but I think both would work fine under gaming.
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« Reply #6 on: 04-November-14, 03:57:17 »

Good feature :)
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« Reply #7 on: 04-November-14, 21:23:31 »

So smart:cool:
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« Reply #8 on: 05-November-14, 02:50:36 »

good tool (Y)
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« Reply #9 on: 05-November-14, 03:53:48 »

gooooooooooooooooooooooooood
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« Reply #10 on: 09-November-14, 23:55:02 »

my gt72 has no SHIFT function ~ can i add it ?
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« Reply #11 on: 10-November-14, 01:30:25 »

It is only for the GTX 900M series GS and GT series.
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« Reply #12 on: 13-November-14, 01:07:40 »

SHIFT function is good for gamer.:)
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« Reply #13 on: 13-November-14, 03:30:57 »

EUROGAMER published a review for the GT72 2QE DOMINATOR PRO

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-msi-dominator-gt72-gtx-980m-review
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #14 on: 24-November-14, 01:04:01 »

with this function users can choose from 3 different modes to control the power consumption and  heat output, it's great!
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #15 on: 24-November-14, 04:14:40 »

Since the GT72 cooling system is really powerful, so we don't need this function on GT72, I think only GS series might need to adjust with SHIFT function for few users.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #16 on: 25-November-14, 04:34:22 »

what print on F7 key ? if somebody can share the phopos? It's really a useful function for us, good...good.. :lol_anim:
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #17 on: 26-November-14, 21:16:27 »

this function is really good and very easy to use
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #18 on: 27-November-14, 02:25:29 »

With this function all temperature on C side keep under 39.5˚C, ambient is 26~28˚C.
This is really nice ! 8-))
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #19 on: 27-November-14, 21:11:58 »

It's a very good feature for users!! Easy to SHIFT!! :)
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #20 on: 28-November-14, 00:39:54 »

This is great function, since we can choose if to run in highest performance mode, or be in more quiet and lower temperature situation. Better then some brands of NB in the market that during running some game, maybe due to too hot or what other reason, and CPU performance suddenly dropped.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #21 on: 08-December-14, 21:52:53 »

Shift sport mode  makes system OC 10%, it highlights that  MSI Gaming NB is a very good choisce above all gaming NBs.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #22 on: 09-December-14, 20:42:40 »

Great, sometimes I wanna spend a sweet family night by watching a 4K video at home on big screen, green mode is the right option for me!!!
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« Reply #23 on: 22-February-16, 20:18:06 »

What is really neat is if you have young sharp hearing like me, even after 32 years of being alive, when you switch between the modes you can hear the thermo-acoustic audible noise of the CPU/GPU change on each of the three settings. Just put your ear to the left of the touch pad where the "warm spot" is and you can hear the transistors of the CPU scream in "Sport" and "Comfort" modes each to a lesser degree!
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« Reply #24 on: 14-April-16, 05:24:40 »

Hey, is there any way to "edit" the shift mode values ? Each time i change mode, my win10 configuration on "battery", notably the "Action to do on power button" is changed back to it's default behavior. Thanks
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« Reply #25 on: 12-May-16, 04:09:10 »

First time i saw it explained like this. Thanks for clearing that up.
Maybe it was in the manual, the stuff stubborn technicians hardly ever read :-|
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« Reply #26 on: 14-June-16, 12:40:43 »

Hi, I formatted my laptop, and the 'fn + f7' is not working anymore. Need help


My laptop is MSI GT72 2QE Dominator Pro.
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« Reply #27 on: 17-June-16, 04:40:29 »

Reinstall SCM ,Dragon gaming center and update EC may help.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #28 on: 18-June-16, 11:08:28 »

got cpu thermal throttling when testing using aida 64... im using sports mode, and it exceed 100c temp...
im using updated DGC 2.0
sorry for bad english
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« Reply #29 on: 21-June-16, 01:24:37 »

got cpu thermal throttling when testing using aida 64... im using sports mode, and it exceed 100c temp...
im using updated DGC 2.0
sorry for bad english
Isn't is correct? When you see temperature like this, the CPU will throttle...:confused2:
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #30 on: 24-June-16, 02:41:47 »

yes accroding to test on aida  64...
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« Reply #31 on: 28-June-16, 03:05:22 »

yes accroding to test on aida  64...
I would suggest you re paste your thermal pad and clean up the vents as well as fan module if they are dusty. At least it will help your system cooler in normal situation.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #32 on: 10-July-16, 19:24:03 »

Indeed make the sports car look even more real
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #33 on: 10-July-16, 20:09:16 »

it's the same reason all man like manual transmission car instead of automatic one.
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« Reply #34 on: 10-August-16, 16:36:02 »

i am not able to use SHIFT mode though the AC adapter is plugged in. The MSI gaming center states "Remark : Please plug-in your AC-adapter in order to start using shift mode". the laptop battery is charging fine.
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« Reply #35 on: 16-August-16, 05:20:51 »

Hello siddhukrish999,
Suggest you uninstall your Dragon Gaming Center and re-install the latest version 2.0.1605.2701 from MSI official website.
After the installation, power off your laptop and unplug the AC adapter.
Find something to poke the reset hole of your laptop (if your model is newer one) and re-plug the AC adapter to power on again.
If above don't work, I think you have to check your EC firmware and update it as well.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #36 on: 16-August-16, 23:37:15 »

Sent ticket to MSI support....Hot key no longer working with GT72 6QD....tried installing new dragon gaming center but no luck...also....Gamecaster hotkey not working on left side of notebook either.  Any advice other than installing new dragon center?  Even tried it without dragon center and nothing.  Checked FAQ and Ask a question....no literature on the issue.  I've been told MSI is aware of it but haven't heard back....this is after a clean windows 10 anniversary edition install with ALL new drivers and up to date utilities.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #37 on: 17-August-16, 04:21:52 »

The new generation GPU has released and seems the SHIFT function has evolved as well.
do you guys know how it work together with this new Pascal GPU ?

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« Reply #38 on: 18-August-16, 04:47:52 »

Sent ticket to MSI support....Hot key no longer working with GT72 6QD....tried installing new dragon gaming center but no luck...also....Gamecaster hotkey not working on left side of notebook either.  Any advice other than installing new dragon center?  Even tried it without dragon center and nothing.  Checked FAQ and Ask a question....no literature on the issue.  I've been told MSI is aware of it but haven't heard back....this is after a clean windows 10 anniversary edition install with ALL new drivers and up to date utilities.
Apparently RS1 is a huge step and computer manufacturers are suffering from it. They may need time to figure out a new version or the cause for those systems upgraded from TH2.
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #39 on: 19-August-16, 00:20:42 »

I am really interested in where they are going with SHIFT....I'm not sure if you saw this post I found in another forum but you might find it interesting...it sort of plays into how SHIFT can work even with non "k" processors...the turnaround time for threads remaining on page 1 kind of sucks so it's never there for very long unless people keep replying....plus I guess no one thought it was as cool as I did but I figured since you took the time to reply I'd mention it....might just PM you the link so I make sure you get to take a look at it....just wish our notebook motherboards were a little more open...but it's still really interesting how Intel played the whole unlocked/overclockable vs locked/somewhat overclockable.....I don't have the link back (though I included it in the post just so everyone knew where it came from...but this guy did a TON of work on a single post to prove how the locked cpus with turbo are somewhat overclockable....but I guess SHIFT requires Intel extreme tuning utility because I just activated a different setting and just noticed an instance of xtu even though I've never opened it in my fresh install of W10A so far)....here's the link https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=274603.0

and I'll PM you just in case you miss this.....thanks for the reply though =)
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #40 on: 15-January-17, 20:09:29 »

Hey, is there any way to "edit" the shift mode values ? Each time i change mode, my win10 configuration on "battery", notably the "Action to do on power button" is changed back to it's default behavior. Thanks

I like shift mode for the ability to affect CPU/GPU boost, but I would prefer it not change my power plan which affects my lid close action, critical battery action, and other things unrelated to CPU/GPU boost.

My suggestion: Give the user the ability to choose the power plan to use for each shift mode. Defaulting to the power plans each shift mode uses now. Maybe show a warning message next to the power plan dropdown if the user chooses a power plan that limits CPU for Sport shift mode.

Until this is changed I pretty much leave it in "Power options" shift mode. I don't know if "Power options" shift mode enables CPU/GPU boost though, or whether it does the Comfort mode boost throttling.
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« Reply #41 on: 23-March-17, 10:26:20 »

hey there... i just want to ask... is the SHIFT function apllicable for my gl62 6qe???? and how to make the msi dragon centre function
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #42 on: 02-January-18, 06:18:28 »

Are comments to this thread still being read?

I have a strange problem with the MSI shift technology. I`ve bought an MSI GE36D. CPU-Z states the Core Speed is 1396MHz in ECO mode and about 3330MHz in Comfort or Sport modes which is okay.
If I turn on ECO mode (with AC plugged in) and start a game ((World of Warships) which runs perfectly even with ECO mode), after a few minutes the CPU raises to 3330MHz and when I turn the game back off, it doesn`t drop again. It seems like the ECO mode is turned off automatically but it is not. Dragon center still says it was turned on... Honestly, this behavior is a little bit annoying.
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« Reply #43 on: 04-January-18, 00:25:58 »

Are comments to this thread still being read?

I have a strange problem with the MSI shift technology. I`ve bought an MSI GE36D. CPU-Z states the Core Speed is 1396MHz in ECO mode and about 3330MHz in Comfort or Sport modes which is okay.
If I turn on ECO mode (with AC plugged in) and start a game ((World of Warships) which runs perfectly even with ECO mode), after a few minutes the CPU raises to 3330MHz and when I turn the game back off, it doesn`t drop again. It seems like the ECO mode is turned off automatically but it is not. Dragon center still says it was turned on... Honestly, this behavior is a little bit annoying.
What BIOS and EC version on your laptop? I cannot find the GE36D on MSI website and am wondering if this is a misspelling?
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Re: SHIFT technology on G-series notebooks
« Reply #44 on: 04-January-18, 02:48:21 »

I'm sorry, this was indeed a typo. The notebook is the GE63 7RD(Raider).
The bios version is E16P3IMS.101
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« Reply #45 on: 07-January-18, 03:25:48 »

I'm sorry, this was indeed a typo. The notebook is the GE63 7RD(Raider).
The bios version is E16P3IMS.101
I just noticed you asking me for the EC version. It is 16P3EMS1.10106262017:11:24:14
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« Reply #46 on: 13-January-18, 05:18:33 »

Sorry for the new comment but I cannot edit the previous ones anymore.

I was told to update EC and BIOS version by the customer service because of another minor problem with the SteelSeries keyboard. I did it so that I have the newest EC and BIOS versions but sadly it does not solve any of both problems. I think I will send the notebook in for repair (primarily because of the 2nd herein not mentioned problem).
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