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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #200 on: 05-May-17, 05:18:32 »

Hello there!

Got as many of here CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 and got the same problems 2400 stable \ 2667 unstable \ 2999 didnt start.

While I trying to findout whats it wrong with this memory or motherbord, I cant avoid DRAM voltage, may be its only for me but i cant really see 1.35 V on my memory.

If I set DRAM voltage at 1.35 i've 1.344. Same situation with 1.36 -> 1.344. And only 1.37 gives 1.36, but not help.

And now here is the question: Is it like should to be? Iam alone have such problem?

Have you tried upping the SOC/NB voltage to 1.05v or 1.1v?
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« Reply #201 on: 05-May-17, 05:19:18 »

Looks like the only stable ram for me is adata 2133 mhz. Any other or other frequency is just not stable and blue screen. Hope some bios will fix this.

What memory do you have? Could you take a picture of the sticker on the memory?
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« Reply #202 on: 05-May-17, 08:46:41 »

Hi guys, I'm writing from Italy. I bought an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, an MSI Krait Gaming and a Corsair Vengeance 3200 LPX. Since I read so many different things you could tell me how fast they can go and how to set them up? For the moment I do not think they can go to 3200 stable without future bios updates so I wanted to know the best way to use them ...
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« Reply #203 on: 05-May-17, 09:56:19 »

Have you tried upping the SOC/NB voltage to 1.05v or 1.1v?

Hey! Well, I was try couple of times up NB voltage to 1.0 and 1.1, but not much and it didnt cause any effect on DRAM volt.

What is SOC?
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« Reply #204 on: 05-May-17, 11:57:06 »

Hey! Well, I was try couple of times up NB voltage to 1.0 and 1.1, but not much and it didnt cause any effect on DRAM volt.

What is SOC?

SOC is generally referred to as "System On a Chip", but in this case it really refers to the PCH (Port Controller Hub) that is built into the CPU, and in this case it helps with the memory controller and making it be more stable when you have faster memory and more sticks installed. 

Most people have found that going up to 1.05 or 1.1V helps increase stability at higher memory speeds. However, I wouldn't go much higher than 1.1V. I'm not sure what effect it might have on the system and I'm not sure if it could damage the CPU if you go higher.
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« Reply #205 on: 06-May-17, 09:20:07 »

SOC is generally referred to as "System On a Chip", but in this case it really refers to the PCH (Port Controller Hub) that is built into the CPU, and in this case it helps with the memory controller and making it be more stable when you have faster memory and more sticks installed.

Most people have found that going up to 1.05 or 1.1V helps increase stability at higher memory speeds. However, I wouldn't go much higher than 1.1V. I'm not sure what effect it might have on the system and I'm not sure if it could damage the CPU if you go higher.
Thank you!

NB voltage no help, I was try 1.1 \ 1.12 \ 1.13 \ 1.14 \ 1.15, no effect on memory at all.

Interesting about DRAM voltage on MSI B350 tomahawk. Is only me have 1.344 V on it? (in all official BIOS ver. at that moment)
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« Reply #206 on: 06-May-17, 09:29:53 »

You could try upping the DRAM voltage to 1.4V, it shouldn't have any issues. A few videos have said that up to 1.5V is still OK as well, but i'm not real sure about that.
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« Reply #207 on: 06-May-17, 09:31:48 »

Wait Northbridge or DRAM? I have heard bad things about Northbridge going too high, but DRAM is indeed safe 24/7 at 1.5v.
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« Reply #208 on: 06-May-17, 09:32:39 »

Wait Northbridge or DRAM? I have heard bad things about Northbridge going too high, but DRAM is indeed safe 24/7 at 1.5v.

Fixed. ;)
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #209 on: 06-May-17, 17:56:18 »

OK so I tried out the Beta BIOS 1.41 for the B350M Mortar board.
No help for the memory issues there. The BIOS is incomplete.
Several fields don't populate and the Memory voltage control is missing.
Still stuck at 2400 on the memory. Going to look at some different Mem sticks to test 
on the different BIOS levels .. after I flash back to v1.3
I will take a peek at the BIOS version 1.31 beta tomorrow or next week.
Not expecting too much.
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However, benchmarks on this rig have been pretty impressive for the cost
Ranking ion the 96th percentile on Passmark. The memory scores are where it lags
against the Intel boxes.
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« Reply #210 on: 07-May-17, 00:14:15 »

New to this site but i'm a big fan of MSI i always have good luck with them and to be honest i think i still am having good luck with this haha

Anyways maybe some of you have the same thing but i have the B350 TOMAHAWK and R7 1700 and this ram
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232181

Anyways the thing that is happening is 2933mhz works perfect using AMP1 no issues at all.

But for the life of me i can't seem to get the board to boot once a full shutdown using 3200Mhz windows its 100% stable but once i cold boot nope system sometimes can boot with the second or 3rd try. I tried setting the SOC voltage to 1.1-1.5V and i had no change i even tried setting ram to 1.4V and again no difference. I'll note that my memory is single rank memory.

I'll also say this is more of a ADHD thing vs a actual concern as like i said its 100% stable in windows and i ran benchmarks like crazy also memtest. Can any of you tech MSI geniuses have an idea on whats going on? I notice once i set my CPU V-Core to 1.3V i get a little tinny bit more luck when i do a cold boot.

If anything i want to put this here just so others can say if they have similar issues and at best maybe someone from MSI reads on these forums?

I guess i should also say that post times seem to be a little long compared to my older Intel Z97 build anyways thanks if you guys read this.
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« Reply #211 on: 07-May-17, 04:18:31 »

Hey there guys , i need some help setting up my Ram Kits on my MSI B350 Tomahawk
i use the Vengeance LPX 16gb(2x8) 2400mhz kit CMK16GX4M2A2400C14
I can start the PC with 1 stick onboard , but i can find a way to turn it on with both up ,
i installed the Rams as shown , DIMMA2 the first and DIMMB2 the second 
i have upgraded the BIOS to the v.14
and when i am running with 1 solo i have put the th AXP profile 1 as i saw that matched the Timings on 2133 instead of 2400 for stability

any ideas or directiions ?
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« Reply #212 on: 07-May-17, 15:11:00 »

OK so I tried out the Beta BIOS 1.41 for the B350M Mortar board. No help for the memory issues there. The BIOS is incomplete. Several fields don't populate and the Memory voltage control is missing. Still stuck at 2400 on the memory. Going to look at some different Mem sticks to test on the different BIOS levels .. after I flash back to v1.3 I will take a peek at the BIOS version 1.31 beta tomorrow or next week. Not expecting too much. :nooo: However, benchmarks on this rig have been pretty impressive for the cost Ranking ion the 96th percentile on Passmark. The memory scores are where it lags against the Intel boxes.
Darn! I have the same board with a Ryzen 5. I have a 2x8GB (16GB) Kit rated at 3000MHz. Part No. CMK16GX4M2B3000C15. Neither A-AMP profile works. The only speed I can get it to POST at is the 2400MHz setting. Obviously 2133Mhz works too :( I hope future BIOS updates will allow A-XMP to work successfully.
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« Reply #213 on: 08-May-17, 05:26:36 »

Hi guys, I'm writing from Italy. I bought an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, an MSI Krait Gaming and a Corsair Vengeance 3200 LPX. Since I read so many different things you could tell me how fast they can go and how to set them up? For the moment I do not think they can go to 3200 stable without future bios updates so I wanted to know the best way to use them ...
Hi! I bought AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (BIOS 1.40) and Corsair Vengeance 3200 LPX (2x8GB, CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R). And, sadly, this memory didn't start at 3200MHz (despite MSI Compatibility List shows my MB support this memory modules at 3200MHz). Maximum I have with this memory - 2933MHz and timings 14-16-16-34. I found on Youtube someone managed start this memory at 3200MHz but not in my case.
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« Reply #214 on: 08-May-17, 05:52:32 »

Maximum I have with this memory - 2933MHz and timings 14-16-16-34.

Not bad at all (presuming it's rock stable).
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None of the current CPUs (AMD and Intel both) is guaranteed to work with DDR4-3200.
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« Reply #215 on: 08-May-17, 08:14:22 »

Not bad at all (presuming it's rock stable).
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None of the current CPUs (AMD and Intel both) is guaranteed to work with DDR4-3200.
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That is not a proper answer in my opinion. Everybody knows Agesa 1.06 based bios releases are coming in the next 7 to 8 days. Give the guy some hope that his issue will be addressed very soon. I see MSI stepping up their game and I am optimistic. that soon they will have a bios that will bring the vast majority of ddr4 3200 and higher memory  users up to full speed with their AM4 Ryzen motherboard offerings. Let's give a hands up for MSi's recent bios releases which are definitely steps in the right direction.
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« Reply #216 on: 08-May-17, 08:24:39 »

Although that's the truth.. Officially above 2400MHz is not guaranteed to work.
AMD and MSI surely work hard to get RAM compatibility improved, but there is no magical button to make all different kits to suddenly work fine.
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« Reply #217 on: 08-May-17, 09:12:33 »

Not bad at all (presuming it's rock stable).
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None of the current CPUs (AMD and Intel both) is guaranteed to work with DDR4-3200.
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Yes, it is not bad :) And my PC is working stable (for one week there wasn't any crashes).

For now memory at 3200MHz is a big luck. But when I looked for what memory to buy I looked in Compatibility List very carefully. And I thought if MSI specifies in Compatibility List memory supports 3200MHz so it is a big chance this memory could actually work at 3200MHz. But speed 2933MHz is also not so bad. It is not very much difference between 3200MHz (timings 16-18-18-36) and 2933MHz (timings 14-16-16-34).
And of course I hope new AGESA 1.0.0.6 will fix memory compatibility.
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« Reply #218 on: 08-May-17, 09:27:35 »

It all comes down to 1 thing realistically.....IS AMD going to loosen up their timing specs?
If they do, and start allowing 2T command rate, then sure, I don't see any problems getting more memory to operate at 3200 MHz....

If they don't....all bets are off and I would almost guarantee that if you aren't running at or very close to 3200 MHz now (ie 2933MHz or higher), you probably won't in the future.

Again, this is all speculation on my part.....but think about it logically. AMD want's 1T command rate. They've shown no indication of that changing. And that's realistically the limiting factor with the memory.
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« Reply #219 on: 08-May-17, 10:06:11 »


If they do, and start allowing 2T command rate, then sure, I don't see any problems getting more memory to operate at 3200 MHz....

If they don't....all bets are off and I would almost guarantee that if you aren't running at or very close to 3200 MHz now (ie 2933MHz or higher), you probably won't in the future.

Probably true.
Another big problem is the current CPU samples:
using the SAME memory module(s), 7 of 10 CPUs do not operate stable or do not operate at all at 3200 MHz.
And any BIOS update won't change that !

On the other hand, higher speed with tight timings is possible with overvolting only.
But that's a faulty activity and leads to damaged components very fast.
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« Reply #220 on: 08-May-17, 11:58:50 »

It all comes down to 1 thing realistically.....IS AMD going to loosen up their timing specs?
If they do, and start allowing 2T command rate, then sure, I don't see any problems getting more memory to operate at 3200 MHz....

If they don't....all bets are off and I would almost guarantee that if you aren't running at or very close to 3200 MHz now (ie 2933MHz or higher), you probably won't in the future.

Again, this is all speculation on my part.....but think about it logically. AMD want's 1T command rate. They've shown no indication of that changing. And that's realistically the limiting factor with the memory.
Dude, you are a genius. I've been scouring forums, spec sheets, manuals, and tinkered myself for over a week now with combined amount of hours nearing about 50 trying to solve why my brand new, fresh installed Ryzen PC would BSOD left and right, seemingly without cause or solution, until I read practically everything you've written in this forum.
The point about command rate, specifically Ryzen wanting 1T only, might be a major factor. 

Right now, I am only able to run 2133 MHz on my X370 Gaming Pro Carbon with my 16 GB (2x8 GB) 2400 MHz 15-15-15-35 PNY Anarchy when I do the following:

- Reduce timings to at best 18-20-20-20-38

- Raise voltage to at lowest 1.4v DRAM

- Raise voltage to at lowest 1.1v CPU NB (uncore)

- Disable all boosting features on my CPU

- Limit to 3.2 GHz on my R5 1600

- Run fans a little higher to eliminate possibility for thermal throttling

- Fresh installed Windows with as few drivers and installed programs as possible for stability

And only then am I getting a reasonably stable system. It's definitely very slow in games (even with a Fury X) because of the very low CPU clock speeds, horrible RAM speed and timings, and lack of any OC on my GPU for stability's sake. But so far, I've finally gotten it not to crash for a while. 

That said, do you have any other wisdom? Is there anything I could potentially do to get it to just 2400 MHz and CL15? I'm pretty sure that was tested at 2T, but I'm not afraid to throw some more voltage at the thing if I have to in order to get decent timings at 2400 MHz. I just want a stable system at this point.
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« Reply #221 on: 08-May-17, 13:18:00 »

Dude, you are a genius. I've been scouring forums, spec sheets, manuals, and tinkered myself for over a week now with combined amount of hours nearing about 50 trying to solve why my brand new, fresh installed Ryzen PC would BSOD left and right, seemingly without cause or solution, until I read practically everything you've written in this forum.
The point about command rate, specifically Ryzen wanting 1T only, might be a major factor.

Right now, I am only able to run 2133 MHz on my X370 Gaming Pro Carbon with my 16 GB (2x8 GB) 2400 MHz 15-15-15-35 PNY Anarchy when I do the following:

- Reduce timings to at best 18-20-20-20-38

- Raise voltage to at lowest 1.4v DRAM

- Raise voltage to at lowest 1.1v CPU NB (uncore)

- Disable all boosting features on my CPU

- Limit to 3.2 GHz on my R5 1600

- Run fans a little higher to eliminate possibility for thermal throttling

- Fresh installed Windows with as few drivers and installed programs as possible for stability

And only then am I getting a reasonably stable system. It's definitely very slow in games (even with a Fury X) because of the very low CPU clock speeds, horrible RAM speed and timings, and lack of any OC on my GPU for stability's sake. But so far, I've finally gotten it not to crash for a while.

That said, do you have any other wisdom? Is there anything I could potentially do to get it to just 2400 MHz and CL15? I'm pretty sure that was tested at 2T, but I'm not afraid to throw some more voltage at the thing if I have to in order to get decent timings at 2400 MHz. I just want a stable system at this point.

At this time, no. I'm in the process of actually having a Ryzen test system myself (one dedicated to testing), and once that's up and running, I can probably provide more information. Until then, the best I can say is to set the NB or SOC voltage to 1.1V, and set the DRAM/DIMM voltage to 1.4 to a MAX of 1.5V and see if that helps improve stability or overclocking capability. 
Those are the 2 voltages that will help the most at this time.
If you've got one of the newer BIOS's, you can try the AXMP setting or the different profiles, or even the Memory Try IT feature, but no guarantee that it'll work or improve it for you.

Realistically, it just comes down to the RAM, the settings AMD requires (like 1T command rate), and just very slightly what the BIOS does.

Also, as a side note, my current understanding is that the BIOS's tend to use even number CL rates, so for your CL15, I'd manually use 16.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #222 on: 08-May-17, 13:38:59 »

At this time, no. I'm in the process of actually having a Ryzen test system myself (one dedicated to testing), and once that's up and running, I can probably provide more information. Until then, the best I can say is to set the NB or SOC voltage to 1.1V, and set the DRAM/DIMM voltage to 1.4 to a MAX of 1.5V and see if that helps improve stability or overclocking capability.
Those are the 2 voltages that will help the most at this time.
If you've got one of the newer BIOS's, you can try the AXMP setting or the different profiles, or even the Memory Try IT feature, but no guarantee that it'll work or improve it for you.

Realistically, it just comes down to the RAM, the settings AMD requires (like 1T command rate), and just very slightly what the BIOS does.

Also, as a side note, my current understanding is that the BIOS's tend to use even number CL rates, so for your CL15, I'd manually use 16.
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'm definitely a little frustrated with the situation, but I know it's just the nature of a brand new platform at this point and yelling at anyone isn't going to make it go faster. I know I've got stable settings (or at least it appears so) right now, so I will save those and then try 2400 MHz. If that doesn't work, then I'll just try 2133 at CL16 instead of 18. I just hope I can improve the situation slightly. If it seems stable, I might even try going to 3.6 GHz on my 1600, which I certainly should have the headroom to do.
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« Reply #223 on: 08-May-17, 14:01:27 »

I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'm definitely a little frustrated with the situation, but I know it's just the nature of a brand new platform at this point and yelling at anyone isn't going to make it go faster. I know I've got stable settings (or at least it appears so) right now, so I will save those and then try 2400 MHz. If that doesn't work, then I'll just try 2133 at CL16 instead of 18. I just hope I can improve the situation slightly. If it seems stable, I might even try going to 3.6 GHz on my 1600, which I certainly should have the headroom to do.

I would say that if you can't get to 4.0 GHz, leave it alone. 4.0 GHz is your max frequency with XFR, and if you can't hit that you lose performance on single core speed.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #224 on: 08-May-17, 16:47:07 »

Just loaded bios 1.5 on a B350 tomahawk.
Any idea about the new but (for the moment?) empty section "Advanced timing configuration" and "Misc item" in memory clock ?
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« Reply #225 on: 08-May-17, 17:22:24 »

Just loaded bios 1.5 on a B350 tomahawk.
Any idea about the new but (for the moment?) empty section "Advanced timing configuration" and "Misc item" in memory clock ?

They probably haven't added anything to them yet, would be my guess.

Also, remember, 1.5 is just the released version of 1.51....so if you were on 1.51, it shouldn't be any different for the most part.
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« Reply #226 on: 08-May-17, 18:08:19 »

I had a comment and a question.
1] it looks like AMD is working on a RAM compatibility fix and it should hopefully come with AGESA 1.0.0.5 (or maybe 1.0.0.6)
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/am4_motherboards_will_soon_be_receiving_a_new_agesa_microcode_update/1

2] That said, I currently have my 1600X running at 4ghz with standard "Game Boost" BIOS setting, my RAM is currently running at 2933mhz (RAM preset profile #1). The A-XMP profile #2 (I believe this A-XMP and not regular XMP) won't run stably. I got it to boot windows a few times but after that it default back to 2133mhz. I just wanted to ask if it's safe to run the system at these default OC clock speeds long term? cpu-z reports my core voltage voltage as 1.448V (hwmonitor says CPU VCORE is 1.448V and VID is 1.550V), aida64 says my DIMM voltage is 1.36V.
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« Reply #227 on: 08-May-17, 20:59:49 »

I had a comment and a question.
1] it looks like AMD is working on a RAM compatibility fix and it should hopefully come with AGESA 1.0.0.5 (or maybe 1.0.0.6)
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/am4_motherboards_will_soon_be_receiving_a_new_agesa_microcode_update/1

2] That said, I currently have my 1600X running at 4ghz with standard "Game Boost" BIOS setting, my RAM is currently running at 2933mhz (RAM preset profile #1). The A-XMP profile #2 (I believe this A-XMP and not regular XMP) won't run stably. I got it to boot windows a few times but after that it default back to 2133mhz. I just wanted to ask if it's safe to run the system at these default OC clock speeds long term? cpu-z reports my core voltage voltage as 1.448V (hwmonitor says CPU VCORE is 1.448V and VID is 1.550V), aida64 says my DIMM voltage is 1.36V.

1) it remains to be seen. I've seen and heard rumors about 1.0.0.6 for about a month....but I'm a 'I'll believe it when I see it' kinda guy. (ie I'm an engineer... :P )

2) Vcore seems high....but under load that should be OK. As long as the idle temperatures seem OK (ie <40C in a 25C room) then I would say you're fine. VID is also OK, I wouldn't worry about it, let the motherboard handle it, if you haven't played with it. As far as DIMM's, they should handle up to 1.5V roughly speaking. I wouldn't go any higher than that.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #228 on: 09-May-17, 06:20:21 »

I had a comment and a question.
1] it looks like AMD is working on a RAM compatibility fix and it should hopefully come with AGESA 1.0.0.5 (or maybe 1.0.0.6)
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/am4_motherboards_will_soon_be_receiving_a_new_agesa_microcode_update/1

2] That said, I currently have my 1600X running at 4ghz with standard "Game Boost" BIOS setting, my RAM is currently running at 2933mhz (RAM preset profile #1). The A-XMP profile #2 (I believe this A-XMP and not regular XMP) won't run stably. I got it to boot windows a few times but after that it default back to 2133mhz. I just wanted to ask if it's safe to run the system at these default OC clock speeds long term? cpu-z reports my core voltage voltage as 1.448V (hwmonitor says CPU VCORE is 1.448V and VID is 1.550V), aida64 says my DIMM voltage is 1.36V.



It is supposed to come with agesa code 1.06 . The X370 Titanium just had a bios update this morning to official bios 1.6  . It however is the old agesa 1.04a code not even 1.04b and has no noticeable impact on 4 dimm configration speeds. I ammired at 2667mhz since 1.5 official bios. I assume we will have to wait another 7-10 daus beforeMSI gives us the agesa 1.6 update that will take us to the promised land. There were no new features in bios 1.6 for x370 Titanium.
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« Reply #229 on: 09-May-17, 08:25:32 »

For anyone having issues getting Hynix based DRAM like the Corsair (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) try setting the DRAM voltage to 1.5V and then try stepping it down until its unstable. 1.5 is as high as you want to go to get your desired clock. I got 3200 running stable on tight timings. Previously I couldn't get anything to boot at 1.35V. I have noticed a bug(feature?) on my Tomahawk B350, when you set the voltage on anything that turns red in the GUI, it ramps up the CPU fan speed.
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« Reply #230 on: 09-May-17, 09:47:30 »

For anyone having issues getting Hynix based DRAM like the Corsair (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) try setting the DRAM voltage to 1.5V and then try stepping it down until its unstable.

1.2V = the best voltage for DDR4
1.35V = good voltage for XMP profiles
1.5V = the absolute max voltage allowed for DDR4

And be aware: your readings are never 100% accurate.
So around 1.5V there is a big chance for :oc:
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« Reply #231 on: 09-May-17, 11:11:54 »

I worked backwards from 1.5 to 1.420~, I'm overclocking here, not taking it on a walk in the park.
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« Reply #232 on: 09-May-17, 11:13:09 »

1.5V is max that's considered as safe. At least according to some dude from AMD during some training ;D
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« Reply #233 on: 09-May-17, 11:24:50 »

I worked backwards from 1.5 to 1.420~, I'm overclocking here, not taking it on a walk in the park.

I thought you're overclocking in the park ...
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In any case, to start with 1.5V is a bad move.
If you want to overvolt the memory modules, start frrom 1.35V
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« Reply #234 on: 09-May-17, 11:55:14 »

Today I had updated the latest bios (Ver 7A34v15) Msi b350 tomahawk red led  , Still XMP2 is not working , I get XMP1 2933mhz, which is my highest last option

My Ram :   G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200C16D-16GTZB 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 288-Pin 
http://www.amazon.in/G-Skill-Trident-F4-3200C16D-16GTZB-3200MHz-288-Pin/dp/B015FY3BJ2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

Is anyone using the same hardware?????. Do anyone has this same issue????? how can I solve it...????
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« Reply #235 on: 09-May-17, 12:01:29 »

Today I had updated the latest bios (Ver 7A34v15) Msi b350 tomahawk red led  , Still XMP2 is not working , I get XMP1 2933mhz, which is my highest last option

My Ram :   G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200C16D-16GTZB 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 288-Pin
http://www.amazon.in/G-Skill-Trident-F4-3200C16D-16GTZB-3200MHz-288-Pin/dp/B015FY3BJ2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

Is anyone using the same hardware?????. Do anyone has this same issue????? how can I solve it...????
Set the timing/clocks manually to match the XMP profile you want to use, and bump the voltage. I think those chips are Samsung's, so they don't need much work to stabilize. Try 1.38~ on the RAM

Edit, just checked, those are Samsung chips, but they are E-Die not B-Die and might require some tinkering.
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« Reply #236 on: 09-May-17, 14:31:21 »

Hi i tried looking online but do you guys think these are also Samsung?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232181

2933mhz at default timings work great but even at 18-20-20 something(try it function on board) my board refuses to boot with those 3200  BUT its 100% stable in windows. It's kind of annoying haha mainly since its well stable in windows i'm not sure how ryzen master works for ram but it wants me to restart the PC if it changes settings in the bios i know my system won't boot but if its just in windows i'm just going to use that.

Anyways thanks to anyone who has experience with this i will note that performance does for sure go up in benchmarks using 3200 with my 1080.
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« Reply #237 on: 09-May-17, 14:38:23 »

Hi i tried looking online but do you guys think these are also Samsung?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232181

2933mhz at default timings work great but even at 18-20-20 something(try it function on board) my board refuses to boot with those 3200  BUT its 100% stable in windows. It's kind of annoying haha mainly since its well stable in windows i'm not sure how ryzen master works for ram but it wants me to restart the PC if it changes settings in the bios i know my system won't boot but if its just in windows i'm just going to use that.

Anyways thanks to anyone who has experience with this i will note that performance does for sure go up in benchmarks using 3200 with my 1080.
Use CPUZ to save a report as txt file and send it over to me. Then I should be able to check what chips your RAM is using.
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« Reply #238 on: 09-May-17, 16:38:20 »

Hi i tried looking online but do you guys think these are also Samsung?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232181

2933mhz at default timings work great but even at 18-20-20 something(try it function on board) my board refuses to boot with those 3200  BUT its 100% stable in windows. It's kind of annoying haha mainly since its well stable in windows i'm not sure how ryzen master works for ram but it wants me to restart the PC if it changes settings in the bios i know my system won't boot but if its just in windows i'm just going to use that.

Anyways thanks to anyone who has experience with this i will note that performance does for sure go up in benchmarks using 3200 with my 1080.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232221&cm_re=F4-3200C15D-16GVK-_-20-232-221-_-Product These are supposed to be B-Die
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« Reply #239 on: 09-May-17, 20:17:00 »

Use CPUZ to save a report as txt file and send it over to me. Then I should be able to check what chips your RAM is using.



Ok i sent the file
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« Reply #240 on: 10-May-17, 00:31:14 »

Anyone knows what AGESA the latest B350 TOMAHAWK V15 Bios is running? I hope it ain't the AGESA 1006 because this Bios only degraded a bit my memory compatibility, it won't boot at 2667 1.35volts, now only at 1.36volts for some reason, and i'm still stuck at 2667 with AXMP-1. Tried 1.1v on NB. 1.4Dram, increasing timings to 18-20-20-20-28 and 45ohms in cpu impedance and yet nothing. My mem kit BLE4G4D32AEEA 4X4GB 3200mhz Micron chipset.

I hope the next Bios gets AGESA 1006 out, pretty much my last hope to get to 2933 at least.
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« Reply #241 on: 10-May-17, 04:34:42 »

Anyone knows what AGESA the latest B350 TOMAHAWK V15 Bios is running? I hope it ain't the AGESA 1006 because this Bios only degraded a bit my memory compatibility, it won't boot at 2667 1.35volts, now only at 1.36volts for some reason, and i'm still stuck at 2667 with AXMP-1. Tried 1.1v on NB. 1.4Dram, increasing timings to 18-20-20-20-28 and 45ohms in cpu impedance and yet nothing. My mem kit BLE4G4D32AEEA 4X4GB 3200mhz Micron chipset.

I hope the next Bios gets AGESA 1006 out, pretty much my last hope to get to 2933 at least.

1.0.0.6 hasn't been released to even OEM's atm, as far as I'm aware.

Until AMD allows 2T timing, I wouldn't expect any RAM kit to hit it's advertised speeds unless it specifically says 'Ryzen certified' or something to that effect.
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« Reply #242 on: 10-May-17, 05:00:08 »

X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM  (MS-7A31) V1.6 BIOS Release
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1. This is AMI BIOS release

2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:

-  Improved memory compatibility.
-  Fixed PCIe Hot-plug function issue.

3. 2017/5/03

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« Reply #244 on: 10-May-17, 12:13:48 »

By the way, my memory kit afaik is dual rank but CPU-Z states as a Single Rank so i'm pretty confused, since it also doesn't state pretty much anywhere if they are dual or single.

BLE4G4D32AAEA can anyone check?
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« Reply #245 on: 10-May-17, 12:31:17 »

By the way, my memory kit afaik is dual rank but CPU-Z states as a Single Rank so i'm pretty confused, since it also doesn't state pretty much anywhere if they are dual or single.

BLE4G4D32AAEA can anyone check?

That really isn't nearly enough information to begin figuring out what it is....

Who makes it? What's the model number?

Doing a search for what you provided turns up nothing....
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That really isn't nearly enough information to begin figuring out what it is....

Who makes it? What's the model number?

Doing a search for what you provided turns up nothing....

Oh, Really Sorry had a Typo.

It is BLE4G4D32AEEA, Crucial Ballistix Elite 2x4gb 3200mhz Micron chipset
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« Reply #247 on: 10-May-17, 14:02:44 »

Well, I'm just going to take a guess and say that they are single rank. Only because they are only 4gb sticks and that seems to be about the minimum memory size for DDR4.

I haven't been able to dig up any specific information regarding ranking and such for them.
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« Reply #248 on: 10-May-17, 14:06:46 »

Well, I'm just going to take a guess and say that they are single rank. Only because they are only 4gb sticks and that seems to be about the minimum memory size for DDR4.

I haven't been able to dig up any specific information regarding ranking and such for them.

Yeah manufacturers should state specs like these more clearly, but why am i getting such a hard time going past 2667 if they are single rank, weird... thought it'd make more sense if they where dual rank.
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« Reply #249 on: 10-May-17, 15:50:45 »

Yeah manufacturers should state specs like these more clearly, but why am i getting such a hard time going past 2667 if they are single rank, weird... thought it'd make more sense if they where dual rank.

Well....The best thing I can suggest is that most likely to go above 2667 MHz it requires a command rate of 2T, and since Ryzen won't do that, that is what is holding it up.
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