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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #250 on: 11-May-17, 02:07:00 »

Though my ram (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)  is listed on that compatibility list, [probably it's not because one that's listed is Samsung's B-die, while mine is SK Hynix's M-die]

I can't get 3200mhz regardless. I've been testing for two months since the official BIOS v1.0 up to 1.5, the best I can get is 2933 Mhz with the A-XMP profile 1, I think it was since the beta v1.21



I hope to see the full support one day :)

BTW One thing I noticed is that the new BIOS 1.4 and 1.5 don't seem to be stable with Overclocking my Ryzen R7 1700, I used to get 3.9Ghz w/ 1.35v, but somehow it is unstable now, so I did 3.7 Ghz w/ 1.24 instead, I think I can still do 3.8 but 

I'd rather go with lower voltage.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #251 on: 11-May-17, 06:55:51 »

Though my ram (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)  is listed on that compatibility list, [probably it's not because one that's listed is Samsung's B-die, while mine is SK Hynix's M-die]

I can't get 3200mhz regardless. I've been testing for two months since the official BIOS v1.0 up to 1.5, the best I can get is 2933 Mhz with the A-XMP profile 1, I think it was since the beta v1.21



I hope to see the full support one day :)

BTW One thing I noticed is that the new BIOS 1.4 and 1.5 don't seem to be stable with Overclocking my Ryzen R7 1700, I used to get 3.9Ghz w/ 1.35v, but somehow it is unstable now, so I did 3.7 Ghz w/ 1.24 instead, I think I can still do 3.8 but

I'd rather go with lower voltage.

I have the exact RAM on the Gaming Pro Carbon with a 1600X and before that a 1600. The RAM will only do 2933 with XMP Profile 1. Kinda upset with the store as I said I needed this to be Samsung Bdie and it is Hyinx. Only learned how to tell after the return period expired. Now I have to sell it and take a hit. Not sure I will even do that. Anyway, glad it's not just me.

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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #252 on: 13-May-17, 13:23:13 »

So Gigabyte has the newer Agesa 1.0.0.5 
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #253 on: 13-May-17, 16:41:56 »

So Gigabyte has the newer Agesa 1.0.0.5

This isn't really relevant here. This is MSI. 
Good for Gigabyte. They released 2 beta BIOS's.

But that really means absolutely nothing here. This is an MSI forum. So let's keep it relegated to that, ok?
As far as MSI's beta BIOS's, there is nothing to post. We haven't seen any updates from our sources since the last time I updated it. For now, we continue waiting. And hope that those new BIOS's don't brick boards.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #254 on: 13-May-17, 17:00:42 »

I basically only posted that to give others hope that MSI will update soon too, hoping in a few days anyways. 

Edit i most certainly didn't post that trying to poke fun cause i'm a pretty big MSI fan. Basically all i buy is MSI boards and GPU's and if i was going to buy a gaming laptop MSI would be my choice as well. 

Anyways for a brand new platform i only have a few issues with this board one being memory support which is the same as any other board. Slow boot times compared to my older Z97 gaming 5 MSI board and when i go to change settings in the overclock settings the board wants to change my fan profiles. 

I contacted MSI about the boot times as many other people and i forgot to talk about the fan issue.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #255 on: 14-May-17, 16:43:20 »

My b350 tomahawk is booting pretty much instantly with both v1.4 and v1.5 bios
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #256 on: 15-May-17, 10:43:26 »

Edit, just checked, those are Samsung chips, but they are E-Die not B-Die and might require some tinkering.

Not according to Thaiphoon Burner... Have the same kit (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR), and it reports manufacturer as Hynix A-Die.


Prepared by Thaiphoon Burner Super Blaster
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                         MEMORY MODULE
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Manufacturer             : G.Skill
Part Number              : F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Serial Number            : 00000000
JEDEC DIMM Label         : 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2133-UA1-11
Architecture             : DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM
Speed Grade              : DDR4-2133
Capacity                 : 8 GB (8 components)
Organization             : 1024M x64 (1 rank)
Register Manufacturer    : N/A
Register Model           : N/A
Manufacturing Date       : Undefined
Manufacturing Location   : Taipei, Taiwan
Revision / Raw Card      : 0000h / A1 (8 layers)
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Manufacturer             : Hynix
Part Number              : H5AN8G8NAFR-TFC
Package                  : Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA
Die Density / Count      : 8 Gb A-die (21 nm) / 1 die
Composition              : 1024M x8 (64M x8 x 16 banks)
Clock Frequency          : 1067 MHz (0.938 ns)
Minimum Timing Delays    : 15-15-15-36-50
Read Latencies Supported : 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T, 11T, 10T
Supply Voltage           : 1.20 V
XMP Certified            : 1600 MHz / 16-18-18-38-56 / 1.35 V
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #257 on: 15-May-17, 14:48:40 »

Typhoon shows my memory kit dram manufacturer as Undefined, but the initial raw card designer as: Sk Hynix, and die revision E 20nm

My memory Kit is Crucial Ballistix Elite 3200mhz BLE4G4D32AEEA.K8FE

I'm guessing it is Hynix because of the raw card designer.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #258 on: 15-May-17, 14:49:47 »

And Number of DIMM Ranks : 1, does that mean it is single rank?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #259 on: 16-May-17, 12:02:58 »

Crap I got a lot of reading to do.  :shocked:
Just set up my system on Saturday.
Instantly upgraded my bios and make sure my drivers were all up to date.
Got the darn thing to quickly bench mark, but it is as unstable as ... well it isn't stable. Will try some of the suggestions here, looks like I need to shelve a pair of memory sticks to improve stability, (seems mostly I'm seeing blue screens related to memory compatibility).

Any quick fixes would be appreciated as I'm not looking forward to sifting through 6 pages of forum threads.
I do want to get this thing stable, so I can attempt to push the cpu a few notches( wouldn't mind suggestions on that either).

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UserBenchmarks: Game 103%, Desk 122%, Work 104%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X - 89.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070 - 99.3%
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 259.1%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2016) - 94.1%
RAM: Unknown 2666 C15 Series 4x4GB - 76.2%
MBD: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)

and here's the relevant specs with full part numbers:
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600X (YD160XBCAEWOF)
CPU-Cooler: MSI Core Frozr L
MB:  MSI B350 Tomahawk Artic
Mem: Patriot Viper 4 2666MHz (4g x 4) (PV416G266C5QK)
GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Armor 8g OC
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo 500Gb NVMe M.2 (MZ-V6E500BW)
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #260 on: 16-May-17, 13:07:24 »

Stick to default memory timings for now. Don't bother with 2400 or even 2667 until the system is stable.

Take the Northbridge/SOC voltage to 1.1V.
Up your DIMM voltage to 1.4V, maybe 1.45V to see if it helps.


That's really about the only big things you can do.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #261 on: 16-May-17, 14:45:54 »

Stick to default memory timings for now. Don't bother with 2400 or even 2667 until the system is stable. Take the Northbridge/SOC voltage to 1.1V. Up your DIMM voltage to 1.4V, maybe 1.45V to see if it helps. That's really about the only big things you can do.

Thanks for the quick response, is there a pair of 4gb sticks that are proven stable I can pick up in the meanwhile? I'd rather shelve the higher performance stuff until they iron out the bios issues.


In my experience, when a board is having issues such as this, it can take several months for issues to get ironed out.  I'd rather pick up a "second choice" memory solution then suffer through the pain of weekly bios flashing, (I've some DDR3 2400 sitting around, but I doubt that will even work on this new board), Suggestions?
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« Reply #262 on: 16-May-17, 21:46:19 »

It didn't take long.

First let me thank those of you who have put some thought towards my dilemma.

Got home, was already down clocked to 1866MHz, bumped up the North Bridge and the DIMM voltage, and hard coded in the timings printed on the memory, was stable for about an hour.
Pulled two sticks.. .. no luck.. still got to the blue screen.

Really thinking I need to pick up something that is working as a work around 8g's of something fairly cheap.  I'll try the speedy 2666 memory in a few months, maybe late august to see if it still has issues.

Anyone got  8g's preferably (4gx2) of suggestion that isn't too spendy but is known to work flawlessly?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #263 on: 17-May-17, 02:20:17 »

Prices of RAM has gone up recently, and very often 2133MHz costs the same as 2666MHz or similar. 

I will say that nothing is guaranteed to work. I would suggest to stay with what you have until AMD, MSI and RAM manufacturers gets microcode, BIOS and those XMP profiles fine tuned.
Although I heard that GSkill Flarex is working pretty well, and many people hit the promised speeds (even 3200MHz).
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #264 on: 17-May-17, 05:02:52 »

I've been eyeing up the FlareX and the Trident Z RGB (just for fun.....). If I had the extra cash right this second to do it, I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
Many have hit the 3200 MHz with both the FlareX and the Trident Z RGB's. 
I saw on Newegg that 16 GB (2x8gb) of the Trident Z RGB's was going for $150, which I didn't think was bad.
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« Reply #265 on: 17-May-17, 10:43:51 »

Hello Everyone,

I hope this question isn't bothersome.  I'm a bit confused and just want to make sure I'm taking the right steps to ensure that my second build attempt doesn't end up like the first.

I'll be ordering the MSI x370 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard tomorrow, to replace a DOA Asus 370. I'll be pairing it with a Ryzen 1700x and 2 sticks of 8Ggig Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM modules @ 3200 mhz. (CMK16GX4M2B2300C16W)

I have a few questions regarding RAM and compatibility.

First, I understand that these-
1866 MHz for 4 DIMMs in dual channel and dual rank.
2133 MHz for 4 DIMMs in dual channel and single rank.
2400 MHz for 2 DIMMs in dual channel and dual rank.
2666 MHz for 2 DIMMs in dual channel and single rank.

-Are the only RAM types supported by both my CPU and MOBO and as such my current pair of 8 gig @ 3200 might not work at all, and if they do will at best function at 2666 MHz. 

I wish to nip this potential issue in the bud prior to receiving my motherboard and starting my second build attempt. Ultimately, I want to run 32 gigs at 3200. I bought 2 @ 3200 with the intention of expanding to 4 later on.  I don't mind purchasing and running (2 x 16) 32 gigs @ 2133 (4 DIMMs, is that how that works?) but I would prefer not having to downgrade and re-purchase sticks @ 3200 if/when the updates eventually permit them.

TL: DR -  I am wondering if it would be prudent to return my 2 3200 sticks which might not work, and exchange them for 2 sticks @ 2666Mhz? Or would be giving my current set a chance the more prudent option? Can they be down-clocked with this motherboard, if, at all? I haven't found sufficient consumer testimony to justify either option as of yet. Any advice is appreciated.

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« Reply #266 on: 17-May-17, 13:07:37 »

Hello Everyone,

I hope this question isn't bothersome.  I'm a bit confused and just want to make sure I'm taking the right steps to ensure that my second build attempt doesn't end up like the first.

I'll be ordering the MSI x370 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard tomorrow, to replace a DOA Asus 370. I'll be pairing it with a Ryzen 1700x and 2 sticks of 8Ggig Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM modules @ 3200 mhz. (CMK16GX4M2B2300C16W)

Hi.

I have almost the same configuration. The only difference is - I have memory CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R (red radiator), your choice - CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W (white radiator).
And my system works stable with memory at 2933MHz and timings 14-16-16-34. Even this memory listed in compatibility list supported at 3200MHz, I couldn't run my system with memory at 3200MHz.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #267 on: 17-May-17, 16:24:24 »

bunch of stuff

Those numbers you listed are the guaranteed from AMD. You will be limited by the CPU and the AGESA code.
Both come from AMD, and until they start allowing more timing parameters and allow a command rate of 2, you most likely won't get 3200 MHz with that memory.
But, as others have suggested, you will probably get 2933 MHz.

Ultimately, if you want 3200 MHz without any issues, I would probably look into getting the G.Skill Flare X modules rated for 3200 MHz. Those apparently work very well at 3200 MHz.
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« Reply #268 on: 18-May-17, 06:37:34 »

Hi.

I have almost the same configuration. The only difference is - I have memory CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R (red radiator), your choice - CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W (white radiator).
And my system works stable with memory at 2933MHz and timings 14-16-16-34. Even this memory listed in compatibility list supported at 3200MHz, I couldn't run my system with memory at 3200MHz.

2933Mhz is acceptable, assuming I can replicate your results. Thank you for the timing, I'll note for my configurations.  I think I'll stick with these, for now, and purchase the G Skill Flare X sticks Darkhawk suggested for the eventual upgrade. 

Both of your responses were extremely helpful. Thank you very much for taking the time, I appreciate it.
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« Reply #269 on: 18-May-17, 18:11:30 »

Hi, I have a litle confused :-(. I have memory G.SKill FlareX AMD 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200  F4-3200C14D-16GFX and motherboard X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM with last BIOS 7A31v16.

I went into BIOS and set second profile A-XMP with 3200Mhz. Reset PC, PC start, run Windows 10, but it craches every in a fev seconds after start.

CPU is on standard clock 3600 Mhz. What is wrong? How set it. This memory is on compatible list...
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #270 on: 18-May-17, 19:30:13 »

Have you tried other things that have been discussed? Such as increasing the NB voltage? What about the DIMM voltage?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #271 on: 19-May-17, 07:25:53 »

Hi, I have a litle confused :-(. I have memory G.SKill FlareX AMD 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200  F4-3200C14D-16GFX and motherboard X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM with last BIOS 7A31v16.

I went into BIOS and set second profile A-XMP with 3200Mhz. Reset PC, PC start, run Windows 10, but it craches every in a fev seconds after start.

CPU is on standard clock 3600 Mhz. What is wrong? How set it. This memory is on compatible list...


You have got the correct memory but I suspect one dimm is defective. Please do a memory test for at least a couple of hours. Memtest x86 is a decent tester. If any errors occur run it again. iF THE SAME ERROR IS CONFIRMED CALL G.SKILL AND HAVE THEM SEND YOU A NEW KIT.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #272 on: 19-May-17, 10:07:23 »

I have a B350 Tomahawk as well with 16gb Corsair Vengeance Red LED 3000mhz. I flashed the bios to get the XMP profiles to get it to run at 2933mhz and haven't had a problem. I agree with sticking with the bigger name companies when it comes to the RAM. As we go on though, always be looking for the updates if your RAM is not yet compatible.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #273 on: 19-May-17, 11:28:15 »

Darkhawk (or any other knowledgeable person :) ), 

Could you please tell me more information of Trident Z RGB sticks? I think you may have done a lot more research on that than I did.

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RAM: Unknown CL16-16-16 D4-3200 2x8GB - 78.2% --- GeIL EVO X 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model GEX416GB3200C16DC
MBD: MSI B350 GAMING PRO CARBON (MS-7B00)

As you can see, the dram I am using now seem to be the SK Hynix Dual Rank CL16 type. My system boots with both XMP 2 (3200) and XMP 1 (2933), but works a lot more stable on 2933 (the system will occasionally shut down and hang on CPU post - no BSOD is shown, and I have to manually shut down and restart the PC, and it powers back in just normal, but will not go through CPU post without this hard reset, also the first time it powers back after hard reset after this failure, it seems like my GPU fans are spinning REALLY fast and loud (probably as fast as they can possibly go) for about 2-3 sec, and then go back to normal and work properly - just throwing this here in case maybe somebody will be able to help with with this issue as well). I've heard that the best options now is to run the Samsung B-die single rank sticks, which it is my understanding that Trident Z RGB is.

The one I am looking at is G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GTZR 

They also have the same sticks in CL16 version, which is ~30 bucks less, but it is my understanding that it will be SK Hynix Dual Rank, and not Samsung B Die Single rank, which will defeat my purpose.

So the questions is, would you recommend me switching to the TridentZ CL14 sticks?

P.S. I am also a little bit concerned with the Trident Z RGB performance RGB-wise. I read some topics that their software is conflicting with any other software that use mbus to communicate with RGB components (such as MSI Gaming app for Mystic Sync, Asus Aura, etc). I happen to run both those apps since my board is MSI and my card is Asus, and I am afraid of potential compatibility issues.

Do you know if Trident Z RGB is directly supported by MSI Mysitc Light? (My understanding is that the RGB problem will not be an issue, as long as you don't install G.Skill software, which is currently in beta mode and pretty buggy).

I hope you guys can help me to make the right decision.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #274 on: 19-May-17, 13:34:44 »

I would get the Trident Z RGB (CL14) as you have proposed.
WORST CASE....you install the G.Skill software and turn the LED's off or set them to a single color to match your scheme....and then leave them off completely and don't use the app anymore.
The G.Skill software will write some (small amount) of data to the memory that is stored on the RAM (same memory chip where all the jedec information is kept), and you shouldn't need the app anymore after that.

My best guess is that they shouldn't interfere with the MSI and Asus gear, as long as you don't have the software running.


Personally, once I have the spare cash, I'll be getting a set of those sticks for my own system, so I can move the DDR4 from my Ryzen test system to the Z270 test system I have.


NOW....if you're still hesitant regarding the RGB, you could always get the G.Skill Flare X sticks instead (they have NO LED's though). Those are made and guaranteed (I believe) to work with Ryzen at the advertised speeds.
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« Reply #275 on: 19-May-17, 13:48:17 »

Thanks for the update! I think I am going to give the TridentZ a shot while I still have my Geil EVO. If everything works as expected, I'll return the Geil memory, and if something fails, Ill return the trident.

Have you seen any good offers for trident z? Newegg has them for ~180 now, which is kind of pricey. I was hoping that Jet would have it (they have 15% off coupon on everything - would save me 30 buks), and it looks like they have ALL the TridentZ RGB variations BUT the 2x8 3200 CL14. (they have it in 4 sticks kit, and they also have the 2x8 3200 CL16).

I do want the RGB aspect of dram, since I built everything in the TT View 31 RGB Case and I would like the components to match my color scheme. Also waiting for that AIO RGB Water Cooler TT announced on CES 2017 - looks pretty damn nice.
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« Reply #276 on: 19-May-17, 13:53:15 »

No offers that I'm aware of.
It's a premium kit, I'd be surprised if it gets much if any cheaper. Could try amazon maybe.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #277 on: 19-May-17, 17:49:24 »

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AMD officially supports what is listed in the first post. Anything more is overclocking. Period. ie it is NOT GUARANTEED to work.

Some people can run their systems at 3200 MHz. They manually tuned the system voltages and memory to get those speeds. MANUALLY.

Things have changed from the olden days, where things 'just worked'. It isn't like that anymore. If you want to hit those speeds, you'll need to manually set the timing according to your RAM, as well as changing the system voltages to match it and allow those speeds.
I want to sincerely thank the moderators here who have given their time here voluntarily to try to help resolve our memory issues. I wish to pass on some information now that MSI bios development staff should know. Elnor, the master overclocker, on overclock.net,  who is also an Asus employee gave out two beta bios hotlinks today for the ROG Crosshair VI motherboard. These beta bioses are based on Agesa 1.06 code and help with memory compatibility  with several dimm modules including G.Skill Hynix base dimms and G.Skill Samsung B-die based dimms particularly 4 dimm kits of 8 GB each. Also two 16Gb dimm configurations were also included in these two beta bios releases. So it is near time for MSI to start opening beta releases again to MSI Ryzen motherboard users so we can to benefit from this code. Action not suspense is the keyword here.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #278 on: 19-May-17, 22:23:00 »

I want to sincerely thank the moderators here who have given their time here voluntarily to try to help resolve our memory issues. I wish to pass on some information now that MSI bios development staff should know. Elnor, the master overclocker, on overclock.net,  who is also an Asus employee gave out two beta bios hotlinks today for the ROG Crosshair VI motherboard. These beta bioses are based on Agesa 1.06 code and help with memory compatibility  with several dimm modules including G.Skill Hynix base dimms and G.Skill Samsung B-die based dimms particularly 4 dimm kits of 8 GB each. Also two 16Gb dimm configurations were also included in these two beta bios releases. So it is near time for MSI to start opening beta releases again to MSI Ryzen motherboard users so we can to benefit from this code. Action not suspense is the keyword here.

MSI never stopped development? 
Just because OEM X releases a new BIOS, doesn't mean that OEM Z needs to. 

Quit demanding releases and understand that they are a company with limited resources, much like any other. They will release a BIOS when they are ready to and when they deem it safe for users to even beta test it. And it's not as if we stopped posting BETA BIOS's. We can't post something that doesn't exist.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of having to remind everyone that if there was SOMETHING to post, it would get posted. If there was a new BIOS available from our source, we'd be posting it ASAP. Be patient, and realize that we (the moderators) are not with holding any BIOS's. We are releasing them as FAST as we can, when they are available. There's absolutely no reason that any user should need to be reminded whenever AMD announces a new AGESA release. If you haven't understood yet, after many conversations and posts, that we are doing everything we can, and continue posting like that, it just makes you a troll.

Constantly asking, every few days, is trolling. And quite frankly, I will not bother posting your BIOS if this continues. It will be known that YOU are the reason those users don't get a new BETA BIOS.
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« Reply #279 on: 19-May-17, 23:15:46 »

MSI never stopped development?
Just because OEM X releases a new BIOS, doesn't mean that OEM Z needs to.

Quit demanding releases and understand that they are a company with limited resources, much like any other. They will release a BIOS when they are ready to and when they deem it safe for users to even beta test it. And it's not as if we stopped posting BETA BIOS's. We can't post something that doesn't exist.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of having to remind everyone that if there was SOMETHING to post, it would get posted. If there was a new BIOS available from our source, we'd be posting it ASAP. Be patient, and realize that we (the moderators) are not with holding any BIOS's. We are releasing them as FAST as we can, when they are available. There's absolutely no reason that any user should need to be reminded whenever AMD announces a new AGESA release. If you haven't understood yet, after many conversations and posts, that we are doing everything we can, and continue posting like that, it just makes you a troll.

Constantly asking, every few days, is trolling. And quite frankly, I will not bother posting your BIOS if this continues. It will be known that YOU are the reason those users don't get a new BETA BIOS.
I would just ignore people like that. Remember not all of us are like that. I, for one, appreciate everything you do for this community. I'm also an MSI fan, and there's a reason why I went with them over ASUS or ASRock.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #280 on: 19-May-17, 23:40:24 »

I would just ignore people like that. Remember not all of us are like that. I, for one, appreciate everything you do for this community. I'm also an MSI fan, and there's a reason why I went with them over ASUS or ASRock.

Thanks. We do take pride in what we do here, with as little resource as we have. 

We don't ask to be thanked constantly, and you don't need to praise us.

We just want users to understand that we're humans, users just like you guys. Which means we have feelings, and get tired of things all the same.
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« Reply #281 on: 20-May-17, 02:03:19 »

I would just ignore people like that. Remember not all of us are like that. I, for one, appreciate everything you do for this community. I'm also an MSI fan, and there's a reason why I went with them over ASUS or ASRock.


What was my high crime? I only mentioned what the competition is doing. I do appreciate the efforts of moderation here. They have a difficult job . It is only reasonable for MSI development team to know they have to be competitive.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #282 on: 20-May-17, 07:30:28 »

Is their a tool or method to tell if my RAM is dual or single rank?
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« Reply #283 on: 20-May-17, 07:40:46 »

Is their a tool or method to tell if my RAM is dual or single rank?

Yes, Thaiphoon burner...

It's what lots of people in here have been using to show their RAM specs.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #284 on: 20-May-17, 16:09:47 »

I really appreciate having an active and happy community - it does give me the sense that we'll eventually get somewhere on the memory issue.  Like many others I have the Corsair LPX 3000 RAM which was on the AMD compatibility list.  Like many others, I have had no luck putting the memory over 2133.

If there's a solution other than witchcraft, I'd love to know what. I've waited and can wait a while more.

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« Reply #285 on: 21-May-17, 11:46:25 »

Gaming Pro Carbon X370 user here... paired with a 1600X.

My Corsair LPX Vengeance 3200 MHz 16GB kit (Black Spreader) is running @ 2667 (14,16,16,34) via the MEMORY TRY IT feature in the BIOS. While I can post using XMP Profile 1 (2933) it does not like to stay there after subsequent reboots.

This is with BIOS 1.5 and 1.4.

Processor seems happy at 3.9 GHz as well.

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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #286 on: 21-May-17, 12:43:02 »

I have been looking at the b350 tomahawk support page every day praising there is going to be a v16 bios with agesa 1006 and it never does! i hope it comes this week at least.
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« Reply #287 on: 21-May-17, 13:24:36 »

Have you tried other things that have been discussed? Such as increasing the NB voltage? What about the DIMM voltage?
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« Reply #288 on: 21-May-17, 14:40:04 »

I have been looking at the b350 tomahawk support page every day praising there is going to be a v16 bios with agesa 1006 and it never does! i hope it comes this week at least.
Asus is testing beta bios AGESA 1.0.0.6.
Users are happy with the increase in memory speed. So far, I've only seen one, dual rank 3200 megahertz :)
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« Reply #289 on: 22-May-17, 13:45:42 »

I can't seem to find the link for approved RAM types from AMD. Can someone link it?

Also, can someone post a few 2400Mhz (I'd prefer not to overclock until this situation has stabilized) 8gbx2 kits that are compatible with my Ryzen 1600 and b350 Tomahawk, assuming my Tomahawk's BIOS has been updated to support the Ryzen?

Here's the ones I found on my own, but I'd like someone with more building knowledge to double check. (Relative newbie here, only on my 2nd PC build, and I don't really understand how to check for dual/single rank as mentioned in the first post)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820215041
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EWBFZSE/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017NW5NZY/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232174&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
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« Reply #290 on: 22-May-17, 17:13:57 »

Any of those should work at 2133 at a minimum.
They will most likely work at 2400....but it's not certain.

I plan on getting these : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232485&cm_re=g.skill_trident_z_rgb-_-20-232-485-_-Product

Those will work at 3200 MHz without issue.

Another option is the G.Skill Flare X sticks, as those will work at the rated speeds on a Ryzen system.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #291 on: 23-May-17, 05:20:27 »

Hi everyone i have just bought the follwing setup (waiting for it to arrive this week)
however after some research i believe my ram will not be supported.
i am wondering if after the bio's updates (which i have downloaded and ready to go)
will my ram be supported or even work at the 3200MHz?
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« Reply #292 on: 23-May-17, 05:27:09 »

Hi everyone i have just bought the follwing setup (waiting for it to arrive this week)
however after some research i believe my ram will not be supported.
i am wondering if after the bio's updates (which i have downloaded and ready to go)
will my ram be supported or even work at the 3200MHz?
There is nothing guaranteed. It will surely work at 2133MHz, but above is just guessing.
BIOS updates might help in the future, but no idea how much it will actually help.
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« Reply #293 on: 23-May-17, 05:33:23 »

Thank you for the fast reply.
I was stressing that it wouldn't work at all
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« Reply #294 on: 23-May-17, 05:35:58 »

Thank you for the fast reply.
I was stressing that it wouldn't work at all
Very unlikely. DDR4 is universal and works with any motherboard that supports DDR4. It's only a matter if you will run native 2133MHz or overclocked 3200MHz or so. But there is so many variables that you have to be lucky if you get 2800MHz+ on AM4 at the moment.
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« Reply #295 on: 23-May-17, 08:09:21 »

So, here I am sharing my experience so far.
First of all, I bought the following equipment:

After setting all up I went for some O.C. First, the memories didn't boot @ 3200 MHz but I was already expecting that. The A-XMP profile didn't work as well, as it didn't recognize any profile for my memories so I decided I gave it a try with the timings. After setting the timings to 14-14-14-25 at 1.35V guess what? It worked, 3200MHz were achieved and my CPU was @ 3.8 - 1.35V. I ran some AIDA64 tests and it went good, with no problems. I shut my pc down and went to bed. 2 days later, I turn the pc on and it didn't boot, starting  to reboot up to 5 times (resetting everything). I found this odd, but OK it could be unstable with those timings. The memories were @ 2133 MHz again. I updated the BIOS and now I could choose between 2 A-XMP profiles! I went for the second one, 15-15-15-35 @ 1.35V and it worked again! This time I put the CPU @ 3.75GHz - 1.3375V. I ran AIDA64 tests for an hour, played LoL, CS:GO, everything went great. I though I'd find the pc sweet spot. Until I rebooted it... The boot failed again and it started rebooting again and resetting all the memory settings. Basically, everytime I reboot or shut the pc down it resets all the settings... Can anyone help me on this? This is just ridiculous, as it works well in Windows, it's stable but it just won't boot.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #296 on: 23-May-17, 09:28:45 »

HI II have G.Skill Flare X. I have this memory on 3200Mhz, but application dont work stabi. Dou you have some tip how set  memory and NB voltage on https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html.

Thx for tips
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #297 on: 23-May-17, 10:12:37 »

Quote from: xsauron
HI II have G.Skill Flare X. I have this memory on 3200Mhz, but application dont work stabi. Dou you have some tip how set  memory and NB voltage on https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html.

Thx for tips

Hey, try to manually set the timings to 14-14-14-34 and the voltage to 1.35V, 1.4V.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #298 on: 23-May-17, 10:51:24 »

The Geil Super Luce 8gb x 2 3000mhz kit seems to work well in my setup for anyone still building:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820144922.  I'm running a B350 Tomahawk with Ryzen 1500x and the memory will run both 3000mhz and even 3200mhz using the XMP profile 2 @ 1.35v and auto CAS latency settings (15-17-17-35).  The only difference in the 3 versions is the led color, which can be had in white, red or blue and pulses/throbs based on the ram temp.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #299 on: 23-May-17, 12:52:42 »


PC is still not stabi. For example 3d Mark or some stress test cause fail. Ths is my setting of BIOS and I dont know, how set it for stabi behavior.
Please check screenshots.
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