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[meRlinX_AT]

Hi! Help me pls.
I have b350 tomahawk with G.SKILL Ripjaws V Gunmetal Gray DDR4 3200MHz 16GB Kit 2x8GB XMP (F4-3200C16D-16GVGB).
I was able to run it 2900 with timings 18 18 18 42. At 3200 it does not want to start, even with the 1.64 bios. (Officially the memory is not supported by the motherboard)
What do you think about PATRIOT 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200 MHz Viper Elite Gray? (The memory is officially supported by the motherboard)

hi,

you can test if you can set 2400 14-14-14 or 2400 12-12-12 - this will give you the same Total Completion Time as with 3200 16.
... and wait for the new bios with AGESA 1006.

pls always post partnumbers - its easier for others to find it

[lossuka]

hi,

you can test if you can set 2400 14-14-14 or 2400 12-12-12 - this will give you the same Total Completion Time as with 3200 16.
... and wait for the new bios with AGESA 1006.

pls always post partnumbers - its easier for others to find it

I think maybe order a patriot (PVE416G320C6KGY It is officially supported)? And G Skil return.
But I can not find what chips in it. From the samsung or not. Would be glad to help 
Sorry for eng :c

[darkhawk]

You can try more loose timing settings to try and get it to work at 3200. 
You can also increase NB/SoC voltage to 1.1V, up to 1.2V if you want.
Also, DRAM voltage can be set at 1.4V or 1.45V if you want.
Both of those can help stability with higher memory clock frequencies (and have been repeated hundreds of times throughout this thread now I believe.....).

Now, if you really want those higher clock frequencies and really want it guaranteed, the G.Skill Flare X modules are made with Ryzen in mind and guaranteed to hit the speeds that they are rated for. They're a bit more expensive, but they do the speeds.

Personally, if you can hit 2933 MHz, I'd stick with that. That's generally great performance and you wan't see much, if any, real world increases by going from 2933 to 3200.

[lossuka]

You can try more loose timing settings to try and get it to work at 3200.
You can also increase NB/SoC voltage to 1.1V, up to 1.2V if you want.
Also, DRAM voltage can be set at 1.4V or 1.45V if you want.
Both of those can help stability with higher memory clock frequencies (and have been repeated hundreds of times throughout this thread now I believe.....).

Now, if you really want those higher clock frequencies and really want it guaranteed, the G.Skill Flare X modules are made with Ryzen in mind and guaranteed to hit the speeds that they are rated for. They're a bit more expensive, but they do the speeds.

Personally, if you can hit 2933 MHz, I'd stick with that. That's generally great performance and you wan't see much, if any, real world increases by going from 2933 to 3200.

Thanks for answer!
I think maybe order a patriot (PVE416G320C6KGY It is officially supported)? I want 3200 x)

[darkhawk]

Thanks for answer!
I think maybe order a patriot (PVE416G320C6KGY It is officially supported)? I want 3200 x)

There isn't any guarantee that the patriot memory will work any better. 
You're welcome to try, but you could very well end up with the same speeds.
If you really want 3200, I would suggest the G.Skill FlareX simply because it will hit those speeds.

[lossuka]

There isn't any guarantee that the patriot memory will work any better.
You're welcome to try, but you could very well end up with the same speeds.
If you really want 3200, I would suggest the G.Skill FlareX simply because it will hit those speeds.

Why? Patriot is officially supported in the QVL. And my G SKILL is not.

[darkhawk]

Why? Patriot is officially supported in the QVL. And my G SKILL is not.

While the memory compatibility lists are a good place to start....
The G.Skill Flare X sticks are known to work in Ryzen systems with many users reporting back that they work as expected. This leads me to believe that it will get the speeds that they advertise.
Without other user experience on that Patriot sticks, I would worry that they wouldn't get the speeds that they advertise and you'd be in the same situation you are already in right now, only getting 2933 MHz and still not able to hit 3200.

[lossuka]

While the memory compatibility lists are a good place to start....
The G.Skill Flare X sticks are known to work in Ryzen systems with many users reporting back that they work as expected. This leads me to believe that it will get the speeds that they advertise.
Without other user experience on that Patriot sticks, I would worry that they wouldn't get the speeds that they advertise and you'd be in the same situation you are already in right now, only getting 2933 MHz and still not able to hit 3200.

The fact is that I can not buy a g skill Flare x (I did not find one in the QVL, I looked all the g.skills memory's). In my city, there is almost no where they are. The only memory from QVL that I could find was a patriot viper.
And my memory now is - F4-3200C16D-16GVGB. She is not in QVL. I tried to run it with timings 22 22 22 56 at 1.64 bios for 3200 - it did not start. I also tried to lower the timings to 16 18 18 36 for the speed 2900 - it did not start. I left 18 18 18 42 for 2900. So I thought about the patriot viper.
Sorry for my eng.

[bradfordstephens]

Update: Got the GSkill 3200CL14 32gtz (16 gb dimms). Made it to 2800 @ 16-16-16-38 at 1.36V, but I didn't do any tweaking.

I did not realize that 2400 @ 12's = 3200 @ 16's. I'll have to read more about this. Thanks for all the help!

[darkhawk]

Update: Got the GSkill 3200CL14 32gtz (16 gb dimms). Made it to 2800 @ 16-16-16-38 at 1.36V, but I didn't do any tweaking.

I did not realize that 2400 @ 12's = 3200 @ 16's. I'll have to read more about this. Thanks for all the help!

It does in some timing aspects, but it doesn't equal the same when it comes to memory bandwidth.....That can only be obtained via higher frequencies.

[DocZaf]

MY UPDATE (personal update - not official MSI stuff)
=========
I'm having great success with the beta bios 1.63 for MSI X370 Carbon Gaming Pro

My memory kit
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32Gb (2 x 16gb UDIMM) - Model CMK32GX3000C15

With the 1.63 bios update I simply set bios to 2800 in the drop down,
No XMP profile was selected (XMP = Disabled)

After checking with CPU ID - Ryzen Master 
It looks good and booted straight in.

Memory is running at 2934 Mhz

Now I am happy because the memory issue was a big splinter in my side.

[DocZaf]

Well, My happiness was short lived.....

The Ryzen Master Utility is showing incorrect memory frequency.

The Bios, HW-Info and Task Manager all show the memory frequency as 2800 Mhz
Ryzen Master shows it as 2934 Mhz

Therefore the actual frequency is likely to be 2800 Mhz
 NOT 2934 Mhz

[blackhawk2000]

Tested: 
MEMORY: G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200C16D-16GTZSK (8192MB X2 KIT (stick part number: F4-3200C16-8GTZSK)
MAINBOARD: MSI GAMING PRO CARBON (BETA BIOS 1.63)

After some playing around with timings and voltages got this stable at 2933mhz (haven't found a viable setup for 3200mhz stable as yet will update this post if i get it stable for this range)
Voltage:
1.350v
Timings: 
Cas#  (CL) 16
RAS# TO CAS# DELAY (tRCD) 18
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 18
Cycle Time (tRAS) 36
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 69
Command Rate (CR) 1T

Note. the timings can be selected from the "memory try it"  option however you will need to manually adjust the voltage to 1.350v after using the "try it"(there is 2 options for cas 16 2933mhz in the list) to set the timings. 
benched for several hours, no problems.

Hope this helps some others struggling getting stable speed out of this kit.

[markgeerstema]

I'm in the process of finishing my buy list, but the whole QVL memory thing has me confused.

I want to buy the B350M Mortar and 32GB of Ram (preferrably 2x16GB, so I have room to upgrade in future), which I need for audio-editing, but judging the QVL list the fastest 2x16GB ram I can get to work is 2666mhz (like Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2A2666C16)

There are several 4x8GB 3000/3200 mhz on the QVL list, but according to the QVL list, most of these do not work when you install all 4 of them, just 2 except for Patriot Memory Viper 4 PV432G300C6QK which shows V's on all DIMM slot options, but this particular brand is difficult to find in my country.

Will there be an update of the QVL list anytime soon? Because I really want to make a Ryzen build with fast 32GB of memory (with the option of future upgrades) without finding out I can only use half of it or at a seriously gimped speed

[darkhawk]

I'm in the process of finishing my buy list, but the whole QVL memory thing has me confused.

I want to buy the B350M Mortar and 32GB of Ram (preferrably 2x16GB, so I have room to upgrade in future), which I need for audio-editing, but judging the QVL list the fastest 2x16GB ram I can get to work is 2666mhz (like Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2A2666C16)

There are several 4x8GB 3000/3200 mhz on the QVL list, but according to the QVL list, most of these do not work when you install all 4 of them, just 2 except for Patriot Memory Viper 4 PV432G300C6QK which shows V's on all DIMM slot options, but this particular brand is difficult to find in my country.

Will there be an update of the QVL list anytime soon? Because I really want to make a Ryzen build with fast 32GB of memory (with the option of future upgrades) without finding out I can only use half of it or at a seriously gimped speed

It won't get updated.
It's just a list of hardware that they tested, from what they had on hand at the time.

[markgeerstema]

It won't get updated. It's just a list of hardware that they tested, from what they had on hand at the time.

So basically it's like russian roullette or something if you want a set that isn't on the list? It's difficult to find completed builds for this particular motherboard and 32GB of ram.

I guess I'll play it safe and take the Corsair CMK32GX4M2A2666C16 that is listed then

[darkhawk]

So basically it's like russian roullette or something if you want a set that isn't on the list? It's difficult to find completed builds for this particular motherboard and 32GB of ram.

I guess I'll play it safe and take the Corsair CMK32GX4M2A2666C16 that is listed then

It's like that for Ryzen period....unless you get the G.Skill Flare X kits.

[seernod]

Where is the QVL list for the 370x krait Motherboard located

[RemusM]

Where is the QVL list for the 370x krait Motherboard located

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-KRAIT-GAMING.html#support-mem-2
Ignore the (rated) "RAM Speed" and pay attention to "Supported Speed"
Up to 2666 MHz in most of the cases


Edited: the link is buggy.
In that webpage click on Compatibility / Memory Support

[kinto77]

Hi all,
last week i bought a B350 Tomahawk, a Ryzen 1600 and Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 (they are on compatibility list with Samsung memories).

This ram arrived in 5.39 version (the new one) and i found it has Hynix chips.
But when i installed all pc components, upgraded bios to officiall 1.5, installed windows 10 (uefi), then booted to bios to try A-XMP profile 2 (3200MHZ, 1.35v).
It worked

But the next day, after a cold boot, i blinked 5 times and the bios resetted itself (ryzen 3,2GHZ and ram 2133 Mhz).
When setted something more than 2400Mhz, i cannot boot the pc with a cold boot.

Is this due to ryzen's ram support?
If yes, could i try to increase a bit NB voltage? (0,05 or 0,1?) without harming the system?

For now i'm using it with a light overclock: 3,5Ghz CPU (even if it could go higher, even 3,7 with about 1,25v) and the ram is all in auto (voltage in 1.35v), except the frequencies setted to 2400MHZ

Thanks in advance

[darkhawk]

Hi all,
last week i bought a B350 Tomahawk, a Ryzen 1600 and Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 (they are on compatibility list with Samsung memories).

This ram arrived in 5.39 version (the new one) and i found it has Hynix chips.
But when i installed all pc components, upgraded bios to officiall 1.5, installed windows 10 (uefi), then booted to bios to try A-XMP profile 2 (3200MHZ, 1.35v).
It worked

But the next day, after a cold boot, i blinked 5 times and the bios resetted itself (ryzen 3,2GHZ and ram 2133 Mhz).
When setted something more than 2400Mhz, i cannot boot the pc with a cold boot.

Is this due to ryzen's ram support?
If yes, could i try to increase a bit NB voltage? (0,05 or 0,1?) without harming the system?

For now i'm using it with a light overclock: 3,5Ghz CPU (even if it could go higher, even 3,7 with about 1,25v) and the ram is all in auto (voltage in 1.35v), except the frequencies setted to 2400MHZ

Thanks in advance

See : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=286610.0

This has good, safe voltages for most of the normal settings required for overclocking both the CPU and the memory.

Also, see : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283344.0
This thread has BETA BIOS's available which should also help and improve memory compatibility for you and allow those higher speeds even better.

[kinto77]

Thanks for the first link. I didn't notice it

About the second, i already knew it, but before upgrading to a beta bios, at least i would like to know if the problem i had, was due to ram's compatibility and not for other things

Regards (thanks for all the work here in this forum!)

[seernod]

Don't see my memory on list but I,m running CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W no problems yet and running at 2666 MHz with XMP on

[lilsaf44]

Updated bios, xmp2 profile and it shows 2993mhz, what's weird is I get 3 long beeps, then followed by another 3 and then boots up?

[darkhawk]

Updated bios, xmp2 profile and it shows 2993mhz, what's weird is I get 3 long beeps, then followed by another 3 and then boots up?

What version of the bios? What board?

[lilsaf44]

What version of the bios? What board?

1.64 beta
B350 tomahawk.

[leveewithachevy]

Ok guys, I don't know if it's my board or ram, but I can't get this setup to go over anything but default speeds.  I've tried every timing known to man for these modules, and I'm still stuck at 2133mhz.

Ryzen 1800 X
MSi Carbon Pro x370
G Skill Trident Z F4-3200C16-8GTZR 16 GB (8gbx2)
Current timing 16-18-18-18-38
Bios 1.50
Voltage 1.350v
Dual Radeon HD 7990 Crossfire
Thermaltake 1250watt PSU
4.0ghz cpu clock speed
Custom Water cooling setup.


I set every timing I've seen towards this and nothing.  It won't post.  Power loops, then defaults back to 2133mhz.  I can't get them to go faster.  I should be able to go faster than this, I can't even get to the "limits" given by MSi and AMD.  

Any ideas?

[darkhawk]

Ok guys, I don't know if it's my board or ram, but I can't get this setup to go over anything but default speeds.  I've tried every timing known to man for these modules, and I'm still stuck at 2133mhz.

Ryzen 1800 X
MSi Carbon Pro x370
G Skill Trident Z F4-3200C16-8GTZR 16 GB (8gbx2)
Current timing 16-18-18-18-38
Bios 1.50
Voltage 1.350v
Dual Radeon HD 7990 Crossfire
Thermaltake 1250watt PSU
4.0ghz cpu clock speed
Custom Water cooling setup.


I set every timing I've seen towards this and nothing.  It won't post.  Power loops, then defaults back to 2133mhz.  I can't get them to go faster.  I should be able to go faster than this, I can't even get to the "limits" given by MSi and AMD.  

Any ideas?

Use a beta bios. See : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283344.0

[critzakis]

Ryzen 1600 (stock) | MSI X370 Gaming Plus | G.Skill 2x8 F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (QVL listed as running at 3200). Tried both latest stable (5.2) and beta bios (5.33)

Can't do 3200 or 3033 even with relaxed timings, 1.1V NB and 1.4V DRAM. Tried memory-try-it, xmp 1 and xmp2, manually setting timings and setting the ohm thingy suggested values.

It can do 2933 with relaxed timings (18-20-20-40), 1.4V and 1.1V Soc but not on cold boot - I get power cycles and it gets reset to 2133. Now I wouldn't mind having to boot twice in order for the system to set the RAM
correctly but the typical boot time is long and when it power cycles it's waaaaay longer (like 2-3 minutes).

I'm hoping a bios revision will fix my issue but in the meantime, is there anything I can do? I bought the board specifically because it had my ram tested :(

[darkhawk]

Ryzen 1600 (stock) | MSI X370 Gaming Plus | G.Skill 2x8 F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (QVL listed as running at 3200). Tried both latest stable (5.2) and beta bios (5.33)

Can't do 3200 or 3033 even with relaxed timings, 1.1V NB and 1.4V DRAM. Tried memory-try-it, xmp 1 and xmp2, manually setting timings and setting the ohm thingy suggested values.

It can do 2933 with relaxed timings (18-20-20-40), 1.4V and 1.1V Soc but not on cold boot - I get power cycles and it gets reset to 2133. Now I wouldn't mind having to boot twice in order for the system to set the RAM
correctly but the typical boot time is long and when it power cycles it's waaaaay longer (like 2-3 minutes).

I'm hoping a bios revision will fix my issue but in the meantime, is there anything I can do? I bought the board specifically because it had my ram tested :(

Most likely has nothing to do with the memory or the motherboard....and more to do with your CPU. 

Read the very first post in this thread.

Just because the memory supports 3200, doesn't mean that everything else will. AMD only guarantee's up to 2667 MHz in the best situation. Anything over that is not guaranteed, and most likely is not an issue with the RAM or motherboard, but an issue with the CPU's IMC itself.

If you spend some time reading this entire 9, almost 10 page thread, you'll see what I mean.

[mikejb36]

Ryzen 1600 (stock) | MSI X370 Gaming Plus | G.Skill 2x8 F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (QVL listed as running at 3200). Tried both latest stable (5.2) and beta bios (5.33)

Can't do 3200 or 3033 even with relaxed timings, 1.1V NB and 1.4V DRAM. Tried memory-try-it, xmp 1 and xmp2, manually setting timings and setting the ohm thingy suggested values.

It can do 2933 with relaxed timings (18-20-20-40), 1.4V and 1.1V Soc but not on cold boot - I get power cycles and it gets reset to 2133. Now I wouldn't mind having to boot twice in order for the system to set the RAM
correctly but the typical boot time is long and when it power cycles it's waaaaay longer (like 2-3 minutes).

I'm hoping a bios revision will fix my issue but in the meantime, is there anything I can do? I bought the board specifically because it had my ram tested :(



im on the cheap mobo AV.53 getting the 3200mhz you really dont need it and sometimes it take a few restarts for it to take it isnt like the am3 socket reboot and it is fine your on beta bios it wll work it self out just try setting spec's restart a few times but dont boot to windows from bios F10 or what ever it is to save and reboot hit delete tll bios dont change anything F10 or whatever it is to save and reboot then let it boot to win 7 win 8 win 10 then check under task manager cpu ghz and ram mhz

[dunaalexdan]

Please, can you explain me what the last column in the table means? Does it really mean that for some modules, I can only use, for example, 1 or 2 DIMMs , but NOT 3 or 4 (for those with just 1 and 2 ticked)..

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2

Also, are all these memories supported out of the box? (WITHOUT any BIOS update?)

[Nichrome]

Please, can you explain me what the last column in the table means? Does it really mean that for some modules, I can only use, for example, 1 or 2 DIMMs , but NOT 3 or 4 (for those with just 1 and 2 ticked)..

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2

Also, are all these memories supported out of the box? (WITHOUT any BIOS update?)

It's just configurations MSI tested. Almost all DDR4 RAM will work out of the box, but not guaranteed to work like so above certain speeds. But 2400MHz should be relatively possible without any BIOS updates.

[mr.raider2]

1.65 beta did the trick

Code: [Select]

sudo lshw -C memory

[sudo] password for mr_raider:  
  *-firmware               
       description: BIOS

       vendor: American Megatrends Inc.

       physical id: 0

       version: 1.65

       date: 06/21/2017

       size: 64KiB

       capacity: 15MiB

       capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard
int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification uefi

  *-memory

       description: System Memory

       physical id: 28

       slot: System board or motherboard

       size: 16GiB

     *-bank:0

          description: 2667 MHz (0.4 ns) [empty]

          product: Unknown

          vendor: Unknown

          physical id: 0

          serial: Unknown

          slot: DIMM 0

          clock: 2667MHz (0.4ns)

     *-bank:1

          description: DIMM Synchronous 2667 MHz (0.4 ns)

          product: CMK16GX4M2A2666C16

          vendor: Unknown

          physical id: 1

          serial: 00000000

          slot: DIMM 1

          size: 8GiB                                                                                                                                      
          width: 64 bits                                                                                                                                  
          clock: 2667MHz (0.4ns)                                                                                                                          
     *-bank:2                                                                                                                                             
          description: 2667 MHz (0.4 ns) [empty]                                                                                                          
          product: Unknown                                                                                                                                
          vendor: Unknown                                                                                                                                 
          physical id: 2                                                                                                                                  
          serial: Unknown                                                                                                                                 
          slot: DIMM 0                                                                                                                                    
          clock: 2667MHz (0.4ns)                                                                                                                          
     *-bank:3                                                                                                                                             
          description: DIMM Synchronous 2667 MHz (0.4 ns)                                                                                                 
          product: CMK16GX4M2A2666C16                                                                                                                     
          vendor: Unknown                                                                                                                                 
          physical id: 3                                                                                                                                  
          serial: 00000000                                                                                                                                
          slot: DIMM 1                                                                                                                                    
          size: 8GiB                                                                                                                                      
          width: 64 bits                                                                                                                                  
          clock: 2667MHz (0.4ns)                     

[lilsaf44]

Did what?

[mixaliskaragiannis]

i have the msi x370 gaming pro carbon with corsair vengeance lpx 3000Mhz 16gb (4 dimm) the product is CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 my latency is 15-17-17-35 the problem is i can't run it over 2133 Mhz anyone know what's the problem?I have the latest bios

[darkhawk]

i have the msi x370 gaming pro carbon with corsair vengeance lpx 3000Mhz 16gb (4 dimm) the product is CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 my latency is 15-17-17-35 the problem is i can't run it over 2133 Mhz anyone know what's the problem?I have the latest bios

Read the very first post in this thread.....

[critzakis]

Read the very first post in this thread.....

Sorry mate but what's the point of your responses on this thread? Not only are they not helpful, they're detrimental to people who otherwise might be able to achieve something more that the "guaranteed" by simply checking one or two options in the BIOS. Sure you can preface your answer by "It's not guaranteed because such and such" if you want to cover your bases but do provide some help or don't reply at all if you can't provide "overclocking advise" due to corporate lines.

i have the msi x370 gaming pro carbon with corsair vengeance lpx 3000Mhz 16gb (4 dimm) the product is CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 my latency is 15-17-17-35 the problem is i can't run it over 2133 Mhz anyone know what's the problem?I have the latest bios

First of all either you have two sets of CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 (that's a 2x4 kit, not a 4x4) or you have a different set ( probably the CMK16GX4M4B3000C15). It's pretty hard to get 4 dimms to work at 3000, especially since they're not Samsung IC's. But you probably can achieve something better than 2133 with a little luck.


Try the following, bearing in mind that it's essentially overclocking, so it's your responsibility if anything happens.


1. Make sure that you run the latest bios (the one with the Agesa 1.0.0.6, I assume your motherboard has gotten it)

2. Use memory-try it, start at 2933cl15 and after it fails (it probably will if we're being realistic) select the one step slower (2933 cl18 then 2800 cl16 and so on). If everything apart from 2133 fails then you need to put manual values:

3. Put NB/Soc Voltage at 1.1-1.15V

4. Put VRAM voltage at 1.4V

5. Disable Geardown mode, set 2T command rate.

6. Start by putting the RAM frequency manually at

2933 cl15-17-17-35. Try to boot. If it fails then:

2933 c16-18-18-36. Try to boot. If it fails then:

2933 cl18-20-20-38 If it fails then:

2933 cl19-25-25-45 If it fails then substitute 2933 with 2800 and start over again, then use 2666 an so on till you get stable.

If again you fail, find ProcODT value and put it to 60ohm. Do not put more unless you actually know what you're doing. Start all over again at 2933 cl15.

I'd be very surprised if you didn't manage to run your RAM at least at 2400MHz.

[darkhawk]

A bunch of junk

This thread is full of the exact answer you gave. In fact, I've said those same responses multiple times.

Maybe before you criticize someone you should do your research.
Particularly, there's plenty of threads with the same info, including the overclocking guide which (surprise, surprise) was written by me.
If you don't like it, fine. 
But personally, answering this question 500x a week is tiresome at best. Especially when a simple search, or reading the thread a little, could provide the same information.

So before you criticize next time, think about the simple fact that this thread is 9 pages and has the same answers repeated over and over. Usually by the same people.

[critzakis]

This thread is full of the exact answer you gave. In fact, I've said those same responses multiple times.

Maybe before you criticize someone you should do your research.
Particularly, there's plenty of threads with the same info, including the overclocking guide which (surprise, surprise) was written by me.
If you don't like it, fine.
But personally, answering this question 500x a week is tiresome at best. Especially when a simple search, or reading the thread a little, could provide the same information.

So before you criticize next time, think about the simple fact that this thread is 9 pages and has the same answers repeated over and over. Usually by the same people.

>This thread is full of the exact answer you gave. In fact, I've said those same responses multiple times.

Sorry but I'm missing your point. You did not point to your overclocking guide, or to anyone's overclocking guide. You point them to the first post which effectively says "tough luck, it's not our fault" as an answer to everyone's question.

Of course you'll see repeatedly the same question again and again and again. And until things settle down, do not expect it to become any easier. I doubt it's your first time moderating a forum, you know it's a very common issue with the general public.

>Particularly, there's plenty of threads with the same info, including the overclocking guide which (surprise, surprise) was written by me.

Well why are they absent from the pinned "AMD Ryzen memory support"? Where is a pinned thread about the common steps one must take in order to resolve the issue? Where is your response pointing out said thread?

>But personally, answering this question 500x a week is tiresome at best. Especially when a simple search, or reading the thread a little, could provide the same information.

If you're tired of the same question, either do not reply or copy paste a link to a helpful post. What happens is people read the last page, see your reply pointing at the first page which lists nothing. What you're essentially doing is not only misdirecting people to a non response but you're actually increasing the non helpful posts on a pinned thread.

>So before you criticize next time, think about the simple fact that this thread is 9 pages and has the same answers repeated over and over. Usually by the same people.

Of course I'll criticize. People here are expecting support. I don't know if you're employed here or if you're a volunteer but this is MSI's forum. It's not anandtech or tomshardware forums. Please simply stay your answer if you can't provide a helpful response - you're actually making things worse.

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Also, not a really great thing, calling other people's opinions "junk".

[darkhawk]

>This thread is full of the exact answer you gave. In fact, I've said those same responses multiple times.

Sorry but I'm missing your point. You did not point to your overclocking guide, or to anyone's overclocking guide. You point them to the first post which effectively says "tough luck, it's not our fault" as an answer to everyone's question.

Of course you'll see repeatedly the same question again and again and again. And until things settle down, do not expect it to become any easier. I doubt it's your first time moderating a forum, you know it's a very common issue with the general public.

>Particularly, there's plenty of threads with the same info, including the overclocking guide which (surprise, surprise) was written by me.

Well why are they absent from the pinned "AMD Ryzen memory support"? Where is a pinned thread about the common steps one must take in order to resolve the issue? Where is your response pointing out said thread?

>But personally, answering this question 500x a week is tiresome at best. Especially when a simple search, or reading the thread a little, could provide the same information.

If you're tired of the same question, either do not reply or copy paste a link to a helpful post. What happens is people read the last page, see your reply pointing at the first page which lists nothing. What you're essentially doing is not only misdirecting people to a non response but you're actually increasing the non helpful posts on a pinned thread.

>So before you criticize next time, think about the simple fact that this thread is 9 pages and has the same answers repeated over and over. Usually by the same people.

Of course I'll criticize. People here are expecting support. I don't know if you're employed here or if you're a volunteer but this is MSI's forum. It's not anandtech or tomshardware forums. Please simply stay your answer if you can't provide a helpful response - you're actually making things worse.

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Also, not a really great thing, calling other people's opinions "junk".

Again, read the thread, where links are thrown all over. Instead of just assuming you know everything (hint, you don't).
I'm not here to have a pissing match, but apparently you are.
Either shape up and see : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<

[sarahandkevin2009]

having read a couple of pages it would appear many have the same issue as me, however I will still share my part list and my experience of trying to achieve 3200mhz ram speeds

I would class myself as inexperienced when it comes to this, I have got plenty of help from reddit and discord communities 

the issue I am having is I have corsair vengeance lpx ram, 16gb of it, code CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 and what is happening is I am only getting ram speeds of 2133mhz when I should be getting 3200mhz as that is the ram I bought but I understand there is an issue with ryzen cpu and the bios version too, I updated my bios today but I do not want to install beta bios 

I am also wondering how much if at all ram speeds will impact much on what I do and what I play on the pc or is it more about memory amount and not speeds? 

part list 
CMK16GX4M2B3200C16                            
MSI B350 Tomahawk 
Ryzen 1600 stock 
     
I am sure there is not much anyone will be able to do to help me as I am sure if there was I would have to update to beta bios first of all 

one more thing, I tried to overclock and set the ram to 3200mhz myself, the computer restarted about 5 or 6 times and would not even get to the bios screen, that was a frightening experience for sure and not one I want to experience again, however everything is working well now and at the moment everything is back to how it was yesterday, well I still have the latest bios, but as for everything else that is the same, hopefully soon I will be able to achieve speeds of 3200mhz for the ram I have

[darkhawk]

I updated my bios today but I do not want to install beta bios

I say this everytime someone gives a vague answer like this. Please, GIVE THE VERSION NUMBER. Latest doesn't tell me anything, as what you might think is the latest might be different. You might think 1.5 is the latest, but there is a 1.7 out there as well. How am I to know which one you have then? Especially when the difference between the 2 is very great.....

As far as RAM speeds, it can improve games up to 15% in some extreme cases when going from 2133 to even just 2933 MHz. 

Take a look here : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=286610.0
This is a generalized overclocking guide for both the CPU and the memory, and can help you get somewhat higher memory speeds.

[sarahandkevin2009]

well the one I downloaded and updated to today is this one here https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html 

version 7A34v15 which was released 28th of april and I am sure it is 1.5 and I see no download for a 1.7 bios or is that in beta?

[darkhawk]

well the one I downloaded and updated to today is this one here https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html

version 7A34v15 which was released 28th of april and I am sure it is 1.5 and I see no download for a 1.7 bios or is that in beta?

See : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283344.0
Version 1.65 has been released there, as a beta.

[xfxp1384]

I just flashed the official BIOS v1.60 on my MSI B350 Tomahawk. and I am finally getting 3200Mhz ! 

I previously had a one success with 1.62 BETA back then, [only for once but not after the 2nd boot], and reverted back to 1.50 for 2933Mhz at least. and now with A-XMP Profile 2,

my ram's hitting 3200Mhz finally.

Here's a detailed information about my ram [CORSAIR Vengeance 8x2 3200Mhz, SK Hynix M-die] which wasn't listed on the compatibility sheet.



The one with Samsung / B-die was listed as supported though. this weird ram shares the same model number for both SK Hynix and Samsung.

[darkhawk]

manufacturers do do that when memory chips get scarce.....it's unfortunate. Especially more so on the 'cheaper' modules..... :/

[kaisersolo]

I just flashed the official BIOS v1.60 on my MSI B350 Tomahawk. and I am finally getting 3200Mhz !

I previously had a one success with 1.62 BETA back then, [only for once but not after the 2nd boot], and reverted back to 1.50 for 2933Mhz at least. and now with A-XMP Profile 2,

my ram's hitting 3200Mhz finally.

Here's a detailed information about my ram [CORSAIR Vengeance 8x2 3200Mhz, SK Hynix M-die] which wasn't listed on the compatibility sheet.



The one with Samsung / B-die was listed as supported though. this weird ram shares the same model number for both SK Hynix and Samsung.

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Exact same memory as me verisn 5.39

How the hell did you achieve this????
Steps to do this please - mind you i'm on a different motherboard but i'm still interested. I have gone through all the steps and combination as in the oc guide in this forum but I cant get to 3200

[mr.raider2]

Where does 1.6 official stand with respect to 1.65 beta? Is it an "older" version for the b350 tomahawk?

I finally got everything working with 1.65 and I'm not inclined to futz it all up.

[darkhawk]

Where does 1.6 official stand with respect to 1.65 beta? Is it an "older" version for the b350 tomahawk?

I finally got everything working with 1.65 and I'm not inclined to futz it all up.

1.6 is the official release, which comes after all 1.6x BETA's.

MSI is a bit strange, in that it does betas that are 1.6x, until it is happy, and then it will release 1.6 when it is done.
If you're happy with 1.65, and it's working well, keep using it until the next beta comes out. There won't be much difference between the official 1.6 and 1.65, and if it's working well, why take the chance of messing it up without knowing things will be better?