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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #550 on: 22-September-17, 07:54:49 »

I am running B350 Gaming Plus MB latest BIOS update with Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R.  Successfully overclocked 1st time using XMP Profile 1 and increased the voltage to 1.350 (do not recommend anything higher).  Running 5 days now, ran AIDA64 multiple times and no issues.
Hopefully this helps with some of the memory issues.
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« Reply #551 on: 25-September-17, 05:36:32 »

Hi everyone.

I bought a MSI B350 Mortar Artic and updated bios last version.

I set my memory do run at 3200mhz by XMP profile 2 and the system starts normally.

The problem is when i turn off my PC. It try to start several times and my memory back do 2133 losing my setup changes. I must to do my settings again to run at 3200.

Has anybody here the same problem?
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« Reply #552 on: 25-September-17, 18:32:51 »

Something that is troubling me PROOFLY is to see that the B350 chipset is corresponding better in support than for the X370.

Something I do not understand is to see the dynamic clock work on the B350 and not on my X370. All configured correctly, drivers installed properly and nda to work.
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« Reply #553 on: 25-September-17, 22:03:31 »

Not only that, but DDR3 was much more forgiving....especially in the 3xxx and 4xxx series.....compared to how poor it was with the 6xxx and 7xxx series.

I mean, it's fairly well spelled out in the very first post of this thread. If you want the maximum performance, get samsung b-die, and only get 2 sticks of memory. Your likelihood of getting 3200 MHz + from that combination is >90%.
Hynix on the other hand, is quite a bit lower. If you wanted 3200 MHz, I would've bought 3600 or even 4000 MHz memory.

It sucks, and I won't disagree with you regarding the situation. But there isn't a whole lot anyone can do about it.
 Yes, I tried them at 2666mhz using the 4 DIMM slots (dual rank) and it did not work, only at 2400mhz.
I got other sticks from my vendor to test. Model hyperx predator 3000mhz model HX430C15PB2K4 / 16 is a 4x4gb kit. Same story using 2 DIMM slots I achieved maximum speed of 2933mhz and indicated latency, but using 4 DIMM slots (single rank) I only got 2666mhz in that kit.

When comparing the performance of it is better to use the kit 2x8gb at 2800mhz than using 4x4gb at 2666mhz

Is this problem of using the 4 DIMM slots and the memory not reaching the maximum speed can be fixed by an update in the future or is it a physical limitation of the memory controller? If instead of the chip set B350 I switch to an x370 board would I have the same problem? (If I am not mistaken the controller is in the processor so the chipset is indifferent right?)
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #554 on: 25-September-17, 22:24:47 »

Something that is troubling me PROOFLY is to see that the B350 chipset is corresponding better in support than for the X370.

Something I do not understand is to see the dynamic clock work on the B350 and not on my X370. All configured correctly, drivers installed properly and nda to work.
I understand your frustration, because I'm also very frustrated with everything. Sometimes I think why I did not buy a Core i5-7500 that here in Brazil was cheaper.

But in the last update of Bios most of my problems have been solved.

But use only 2 memory sticks if you want to 32GB use a 2x16gb kit.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #555 on: 26-September-17, 02:06:53 »

1) When comparing the performance of it is better to use the kit 2x8gb at 2800mhz than using 4x4gb at 2666mhz

2) Is this problem of using the 4 DIMM slots and the memory not reaching the maximum speed can be fixed by an update in the future or is it a physical limitation of the memory controller?

1. Obviously
2. the speed limitation in case of 4 memory modules comes from the CPU IMC (additional load), so don't expect any BIOS update to fix that.
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« Reply #556 on: 26-September-17, 22:13:15 »

Hi 

I am new in the English Forum. I got a Little Problem with my MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon. (1700X with 4x8GB Kingston HX426C15FBK2/16). Until Bios Version 1.5 the Ram Speed could be used at 2666 MHz. Now I have updated the bios to Version 1.96 beta and i can't get above 2400 MHz. Same Problem in the Versions 1.70, 1.80 and 1.94. If i put the Speed at 2666 MHz it will end up in a Boot Loop.  Any Idea ?

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« Reply #557 on: 26-September-17, 23:39:31 »

I've got the ryzen 1700 with a msi x370 gaming pro carbon.
2x8 gigs of hyperx predator running fine at 3000mhz. 
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« Reply #558 on: 26-September-17, 23:54:55 »

I understand your frustration, because I'm also very frustrated with everything. Sometimes I think why I did not buy a Core i5-7500 that here in Brazil was cheaper.

But in the last update of Bios most of my problems have been solved.

But use only 2 memory sticks if you want to 32GB use a 2x16gb kit.
The problem is that I am unemployed and have no more money. How do I do?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #559 on: 27-September-17, 09:21:53 »

How come i get 3 long beeps, the a restart and boot when using any xmp profile or memory try it. (2993mhz)
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #560 on: 27-September-17, 09:54:18 »

How come i get 3 long beeps, the a restart and boot when using any xmp profile or memory try it. (2993mhz)

what motherboard do you have?
what memory are you using?
how many sticks do you have installed?
what CPU are you using in your motherboard?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #561 on: 27-September-17, 13:42:26 »


2. the speed limitation in case of 4 memory modules comes from the CPU IMC (additional load), so don't expect any BIOS update to fix that.

I'm looking at my other motherboard, an Asus with the X370 chipset and it does support DDR4-3200 on 4 dimms, but only for one G.SKill model (note that the latest G. Skill models certified for AMD do not appear in this list yet as it is dated from 8/16).
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_QVL/

Support for 4dimms is spotchy above 2133mhz and no official support seems to exists for memory above 3200mhz for this chipset (X

if it's a problem with the CPU IMC, then there seems to be a work around that some memory manufacturers have managed to use.  Or there's a problem with the B370 chipset of AMD.

I'm curious about memory support for the Threadrippers.  Any one here had experience with one of these and higher clocked memory?

Anyway, I'm hopeful for the future, I think by next year, more memory manufacturers will make 3200mhz or even 4000mhz as promised by AMD.
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« Reply #562 on: 28-September-17, 00:29:46 »

more memory manufacturers will make 3200mhz or even 4000mhz as promised by AMD.

In fact AMD (and Intel) must make better CPU IMCs for them.
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« Reply #563 on: 28-September-17, 11:59:16 »

They have achieved 4000mhz on the Ryzen, but with a CAS latency 18 8gb single stick:
https://segmentnext.com/2017/07/03/amd-ryzen-ddr4-speed-barrier/

I see a lot of improvements since May when Ryzen was first released.  I remain hopeful some kind of work-around fix for Ryzen can still be found.

Since you obviously know a lot more than me about this, what would be the relative difference between achieving 4000mhz speed with a CAS 18 stick vs 3200mhz with a CAS 14 stick?
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« Reply #564 on: 28-September-17, 17:07:38 »

Hi, a lot of people say, that they can run with 4 RAM moduls on 3200MHz and that new Ryzen, which were created after 25th week, are very good for overcloking.
Maybe a lot of our problems are with old Ryzen revision. You can try RMA process, because all old Ryzen have Linux bug and AMD does send new AMD CPU free.

Check forum https://community.amd.com/thread/215773?start=1680&tstart=0

And do RMA with your CPU

Article about AMD replacement: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/254750-amd-replaces-ryzen-cpus-users-affected-rare-linux-bug
Ryzen killscript for test and log you can use like reason for RMA : https://github.com/suaefar/ryzen-test
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #565 on: 29-September-17, 19:12:57 »



boys boys

ON RYZEN ONLY USE DUAL CHANNEL NOT 2*SINGLE

ON THREADRIPPR ONLY USE QUAD CHANNEL NOT 2*DUAL


inside ram,(hardware ,IC and pcb )single,dual,quad not same ,completly diffrante ,, many people think = dual =2*single channel  ram or quad =4* dual ram



you must use only ram, write on box QUAD for threadripper (dual for ryzen)

if you put wrong ram your system cant start , even if start , hiccops rip in windows, harm your cpu

in amd thteadripper ,change your ram to this
gskill ri4*8  3200=250$
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for ryzen usr only ram write on box DUAL CHANNEL
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #566 on: 30-September-17, 10:17:57 »

what motherboard do you have?
what memory are you using?
how many sticks do you have installed?
what CPU are you using in your motherboard?
B350 tomahawk
Lpx 8gb 3000mhz (2x4 stick)
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« Reply #567 on: 30-September-17, 11:17:37 »

B350 tomahawk Lpx 8gb 3000mhz (2x4 stick) R5 1600

on ryzen chips only 2667Mhz is guaranteed in dual channel as it adds extra stress to the IMC and 2993Mhz is a Overclock and may never work as it juts depends how good the IMC on the CPU is!

are you running the latest BIOS for your board as it may help a little?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #568 on: 30-September-17, 18:09:40 »

on ryzen chips only 2667Mhz is guaranteed in dual channel as it adds extra stress to the IMC and 2993Mhz is a Overclock and may never work as it juts depends how good the IMC on the CPU is!

are you running the latest BIOS for your board as it may help a little?
Well I've used latest and different betas. So it's classed as an OC even though the ram is 3000mhz! So do I have to do some ocing on cpu too?
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« Reply #569 on: 01-October-17, 06:16:34 »

*Lots of stuff*

No reason to repeat the same post multiple times. See : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
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« Reply #570 on: 02-October-17, 21:59:53 »

Please, guys! I need a help!

Im looking for 32gb(2x16gb) that works at 3000Mhz or 32000mhz with my B350 Tomahawk Arctic and a 1700. Anyone? :cry:
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« Reply #571 on: 03-October-17, 03:23:07 »

Here are my UserBenchmark result:

UserBenchmarks: Game 62%, Desk 79%, Work 74%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 86.2%
GPU: AMD RX 480 - 62.2%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 92.5%
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB - 52.2%
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MBD: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC (MS-7A34)

Can't hit more than 2800mhz(14-14-14-34-66-1T) with my G.Skill rams.

Any ideas how to get 3200mhz?  What is the difference between 1T & 2T ?
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« Reply #572 on: 03-October-17, 05:09:55 »

Please, guys! I need a help!

Im looking for 32gb(2x16gb) that works at 3000Mhz or 32000mhz with my B350 Tomahawk Arctic and a 1700. Anyone? :cry:

You're going to be hard pressed to find modules that can do that, as they are all double rank DIMM's, which will cause the IMC more stress than single rank DIMM's. Usually the best we hear users getting with modules like this are 2933 MHz.
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« Reply #573 on: 03-October-17, 05:14:24 »

Here are my UserBenchmark result:

UserBenchmarks: Game 62%, Desk 79%, Work 74%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 86.2%
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Can't hit more than 2800mhz(14-14-14-34-66-1T) with my G.Skill rams.

Any ideas how to get 3200mhz?  What is the difference between 1T & 2T ?

1T and 2T is the difference in command rate, or the time delay (in clock cycles) between when the controller activates the memory select line, and when it sends a command to the memory.

Without knowing what memory you have exactly, it's really hard to recommend much. But have you changed any voltages at all? Played with any of the other settings within the BIOS? There's 12 pages on this thread, most of it with users asking the same questions over and over without reading the thread. Where answers get repeated time after time after time. So, I suggest spending time and actually reading the thread.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #574 on: 03-October-17, 08:48:24 »

You're going to be hard pressed to find modules that can do that, as they are all double rank DIMM's, which will cause the IMC more stress than single rank DIMM's. Usually the best we hear users getting with modules like this are 2933 MHz.

Do you suggest any? Thanks for your help.
Im think about giving up the 32gb and go with 16gb(2x8gb). Any sugestion?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #575 on: 03-October-17, 11:47:56 »

Please, guys! I need a help!

Im looking for 32gb(2x16gb) that works at 3000Mhz or 32000mhz with my B350 Tomahawk Arctic and a 1700. Anyone? :cry:
I have two Ryzen rig, one Ryzen 5 (MSI B350 board) and one Ryzen 7 (X370 chipset)

With a Ryzen 7 1700x and another board from another brand, I have these, but in 16gb (2x8):
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MZwqqs/gskill-memory-f43200c14d32gtz
running at 3200mhz, no problem and overclocked at 3400mhz did give me some stability problem with an older BIOS (haven't tried again with a newer one and I haven't fiddled with the voltage either).

these ones, in 2x16gb, are guaranteed to work on my Ryzen 7 motherboard at 3200mhz:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx

I am unsure if they would work with the MSI B350 though, I have only tried these speed on my X370 board, the other one is at 2400mhz since it's not for gaming.

In theory, memory support comes with the AGESA updates, so these should work for any board with a Ryzen CPU... maybe buy them from a place you know will take them back if they don't work?
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« Reply #576 on: 04-October-17, 00:03:04 »

Wow! After putting TrC to 75 and disabled XMP profiles my ram G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB reach 3066mhz with my Tomahawk Artic. Before this just 2800mhz.

No need to change voltages or timigs at all.
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« Reply #577 on: 04-October-17, 11:59:32 »

what do you suggest?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #578 on: 04-October-17, 12:07:13 »

Hey guys. Frustrated B350 PC MATE owner here. My RAM does not work.
 
 
 
 BIOS is the newest (from last month with AGESA Code 1.0.0.6b and updated memory compatibility) and the kit (RipjawsV F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) is supposed to be supported (different color in the list, last two letters different).
 
 There's 2 XMP profiles, 3066 and 3200MHz and neither works. PC turns on, turns off, turns on, turns off and so on until I cut the power with the PSU switch so that the BIOS resets itself. Currently running at a measly 2133MHz. :censored:?!
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #579 on: 06-October-17, 06:42:34 »

i have MSI Gaming AMD Ryzen B350 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 ATX Motherboard (B350 PC MATE)
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 Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit – White (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W)
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so i called MSI to see if there was somrthing i can do to get my ram back to 3200mhz i have the new bios Version 7A34vA7 Release Date 2017-09-19 File Size 7.78 MB
and asked if i roll back to factory bios if it would reset ram they said no because you can't roll back to factory bios agesa code 1.0.0.6b trashed my mobo to get it fixed ill have to get a new mobo and not get the bios with
agesa code when i first got this mobo and ram i was at 3200mhz update bios 2400mhz is the highest i can go hops there is a new bios or a bios to roll back to factory bios and start again
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #580 on: 06-October-17, 11:05:43 »

so i called MSI to see if there was somrthing i can do to get my ram back to 3200mhz i have the new bios Version 7A34vA7 Release Date 2017-09-19 File Size 7.78 MB
and asked if i roll back to factory bios if it would reset ram they said no because you can't roll back to factory bios agesa code 1.0.0.6b trashed my mobo to get it fixed ill have to get a new mobo and not get the bios with
agesa code when i first got this mobo and ram i was at 3200mhz update bios 2400mhz is the highest i can go hops there is a new bios or a bios to roll back to factory bios and start again

You can flash older versions and it'll work just fine.....many users have done what you are talking about because they ran into the same problems as you did.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #581 on: 06-October-17, 11:49:07 »

I've been able to get my RAM CMU16GX4M2C3200C16 to reliably cold boot and boot into windows at 3333MHz however whenever I run prime95 I get the same BSOD no matter what setting I change which says ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READ_ONLY_MEMORY.
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DRAM Voltage: 1.45V (I tried up to 1.48V and it didn't make a difference)

Does anybody know what settings could I possibly touch to make this work properly?
I know that there are quite a bunch of other settings inside the Advanced DRAM Configuration page but I do not know how to modify them as I haven't been able to find an explanation on how to tweak them or what they do.
They do work perfectly fine at 3200MHz but I'd like to get them to work at 3333MHz none the less.

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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #582 on: 06-October-17, 13:33:39 »

Completely agree with Darkhawk,
Recently, while doing experiments, starting with version 1.96, I loaded BIOS version 1.9 then 1.97 (backwards), then 1.8 and finally back to 1.9 again. Decided the newest BIOS was no harm, so I will stay with it until another new one is out. No fear back-tracking.
Just follow the procedures outlined this forum.

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« Reply #583 on: 06-October-17, 14:31:08 »

Will a 3000 Mhz corsair vengeance memory that's not on msi qvl run at least at 2933 Mhzb with a b350 mortar? Did anyone try it? There aren't many 3000 ram options supported by msi and 3200 are currently very expensive in my country
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« Reply #584 on: 06-October-17, 15:35:42 »

Will a 3000 Mhz corsair vengeance memory that's not on msi qvl run at least at 2933 Mhzb with a b350 mortar? Did anyone try it? There aren't many 3000 ram options supported by msi and 3200 are currently very expensive in my country

See the first post. There's no guarantees that it'll run any faster than 2667 MHz. It's overclocking. So your experience may vary from another users.
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« Reply #585 on: 07-October-17, 00:06:28 »

Great info. Answered all my questions
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« Reply #586 on: 07-October-17, 05:52:14 »

I would like to share my experience with the memory OC with my B350M Mortar.

I am running 4 sticks single rank RAM (16gb 4x4 cfg) at 3200 (memories are rated to 2667 mhz).

DRAM Voltage: 1.36v
16-18-18-18

So far so good :) very happy with MSI, had a AB350M-Gaming-3 from GB - the same RAM's would not even run properly in 2667
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #587 on: 07-October-17, 06:03:29 »

gu.munoz

Please tell us about the RAM - manufacturer name, model and part number if possible.
Did you buy all four sticks in one kit?
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #588 on: 07-October-17, 06:42:56 »

I am running 4 sticks single rank RAM (16gb 4x4 cfg) at 3200 (memories are rated to 2667 mhz).

Sooner or later you'll get into stability issues.
The CPU IMC load in case of 4 x 4GB is the same as for 2 x 8GB.
But it's always better (more stable) to use only 2 memory modules.
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« Reply #589 on: 09-October-17, 14:00:38 »

Sooner or later you'll get into stability issues.
The CPU IMC load in case of 4 x 4GB is the same as for 2 x 8GB.
But it's always better (more stable) to use only 2 memory modules.
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hx426c15fbk2-8 and HX426C15FB/4

Yep, but in Brazil the memories are super expensive like the TridentZ is almost 599/699 USD, so I cannot afford that yet hehe.
I`ve been testig since that day and so far it is seems stable (I`ve been plauing Paragon and PUBG) got a crash in PUBG but still not sure if realated to the memory or the game itself, but as no other game has yet crashed cannot comment.
In case I find it unstable I will add more voltage to see if gets stable - running @1.36 the RAM`s and 1.1v the SoC.

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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #590 on: 10-October-17, 11:47:02 »

Gustavo,
Thank you for the extra details.
I think you should count your blessing and the terrific copy of CPU. It seems to be one of the best performing so far.
Achieving 3200MHz with four sticks is rare and even more so, when the RAM is not on the compatibility list.
Gives all of us hope, that we find further improvements.

On my rig, 2933MHz with four stick of Corsair CMU16GX4M2C3200C16B is the best I can manage. I am very happy with the MSI board and the Admin's here have given me most of the insights used to get to 2933.

Have fun with your system! and thanks for the feedback.
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« Reply #591 on: 10-October-17, 12:43:25 »

Hello Mike,

I am very happy with MSI board as well - I thought my CPU was bad, as with the Gigabyte board I had so many issues with the RAM sticks, anyway it seems that I got lucky (FINALLY) even though 2933 is a very nice OC as well. Now I will try to play with the CPU OC - gonna post my results here once I do it, for the 1500X the 1.4v is the max vCore as well for  24x7? I was reading OC's for 1600x/1700 - not many people seems to have the 1500x

PS: I did the memory OC with the "Memory try ti" feature could not believe it when it posted lol - gonna try some other memory hungry applications to check stability.
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« Reply #592 on: 10-October-17, 13:38:55 »

Hello Mike,

I am very happy with MSI board as well - I thought my CPU was bad, as with the Gigabyte board I had so many issues with the RAM sticks, anyway it seems that I got lucky (FINALLY) even though 2933 is a very nice OC as well. Now I will try to play with the CPU OC - gonna post my results here once I do it, for the 1500X the 1.4v is the max vCore as well for  24x7? I was reading OC's for 1600x/1700 - not many people seems to have the 1500x

PS: I did the memory OC with the "Memory try ti" feature could not believe it when it posted lol - gonna try some other memory hungry applications to check stability.

I got one. I managed 4.0 GHz, but it wasn't the most stable.
I stick to 3.8 GHz and I have no issues.
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« Reply #593 on: 14-October-17, 12:11:42 »

Hi, a lot of people say, that they can run with 4 RAM moduls on 3200MHz and that new Ryzen, which were created after 25th week, are very good for overcloking.
Maybe a lot of our problems are with old Ryzen revision. You can try RMA process, because all old Ryzen have Linux bug and AMD does send new AMD CPU free.

Check forum https://community.amd.com/thread/215773?start=1680&tstart=0

And do RMA with your CPU

Article about AMD replacement: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/254750-amd-replaces-ryzen-cpus-users-affected-rare-linux-bug
Ryzen killscript for test and log you can use like reason for RMA : https://github.com/suaefar/ryzen-test
RMA form for start for RMA process: http://support.amd.com/en-us/contact/email-form
Did you produce this test?
How do I check this in Windows ????
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #594 on: 27-October-17, 01:07:14 »

Just Flashed the latest MSI Bios Update on the AM4 Motherboard B350 Tomahawk Arctic (9-17-17). It repaired the motherboard red light warning for fan speed and I chose A-XMP Profile 2 to receive my full 2666mhz on Corsair Dominator Platinum 16 GB (4x4) DDR4. The voltage increased to 1.37 from 1.9. All over the place there were concerns about the AMD Ryzen and DDR4 memory compatibility. So...its like spend two hundred on DDR4 and wait to IF the damn thing even boots up? All seems to be forgiven. One would wonder what the developers were even thinking. What is more important? Overall I like the multiple cores it behaves as if I actually have a 12 core system instead the Ryzen 1600 6 core. MSI also has something called Live Update 6 that gave my drivers a very needed upate for at least the sound. The audio jacks and software weren't working. recommended download. Vrooom. This system with Ryzen 5 1600 3.4 outclasses my old 6 core 1100T.
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Re: AMD Ryzen memory support
« Reply #595 on: 31-October-17, 17:56:54 »

I have done extensive testing on Bdie,  Ddie 2R. and Hynix Mdie (MFR)  on the X370 gaming plus.

No issues with the Bbie kit running at 3200cl14, no issues with the Ddie **dual rank** at 3200cl16, couldn't run hynix kit at more than 3066.

So my IMC is perfectly capable of running tight 3200 and dual rank 3200. So no, it's not the IMC the issue with the Hynix kits,let's dispel that notion and save the people time and money with RMA'ing perfectly fine (unless you're concerned with segfault errors) CPUs.


Here is my 3200 hynix kit and here are the settings for 3066 reasonably tight:


https://i.imgur.com/SJEUaRa.jpg

Here's my 3200 2R Samsung Ddie kit and here are the settings for 3200 (can be tighter)

https://i.imgur.com/UhMcXUs.png

1T, geardown enabled, 1.37V, 1.1V Soc, 60 Ohm procODT (update your bios first)


With bdie you won't encounter any problems.

So, anyone encountering an issue just use the aforementioned timings/settings.

Kits tested:

F4-3200C16-16GVKB (Hynix)
F4-3200C14-16GVK (Samsung Bdie)
F4-3400C16-16GVK (Samsung Ddie)


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 PS: The hynix kit runs flawlessly on a 8700K at its rated speed, so it's not overly optimistic with its rating.

PPS: The 2R cl16 performs better than 1R cl14 at 3200MHz. But at stock timings, didn't have much time with the bdie kit since it was a loaner.
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« Reply #596 on: 31-October-17, 21:03:53 »

 i Did have MSI Gaming AMD Ryzen B350 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 ATX Motherboard (B350 PC MATE)
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 Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit – White (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W)
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so i called MSI to see if there was somrthing i can do to get my ram back to 3200mhz i have the new bios Version 7A34vA7 Release Date 2017-09-19 File Size 7.78 MB
and asked if i roll back to factory bios if it would reset ram they said no because you can't roll back to factory bios agesa code 1.0.0.6b trashed my mobo to get it fixed ill have to get a new mobo and not get the bios with
agesa code when i first got this mobo and ram i was at 3200mhz update bios 2400mhz is the highest i can go hops there is a new bios or a bios to roll back to factory bios and start again

i now have 
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« Reply #597 on: 31-October-17, 23:55:02 »

No issues with the Bbie kit running at 3200cl14, no issues with the Ddie **dual rank** at 3200cl16, couldn't run hynix kit at more than 3066.

So my IMC is perfectly capable of running tight 3200 and dual rank 3200.

It's about your CPU sample and 2 x 8GB kits only.
For other CPUs and/or memory kits (4 x 8GB or 2 x 16GB) your test results are almost irrelevant.
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« Reply #598 on: 01-November-17, 06:09:14 »

How is it irrelevant?

I can't run 3066+ on hynix but can run 3200c14 and 3200c16 2R on various Samsung kits. So if my IMC is not a problem, why can't I run more than 3066? The hynix kit works fine at 3200 on Z370.

Also it's three kits.
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« Reply #599 on: 01-November-17, 06:40:02 »


I can't run 3066+ on hynix but can run 3200c14 and 3200c16 2R on various Samsung kits. So if my IMC is not a problem, why can't I run more than 3066? The hynix kit works fine at 3200 on Z370.

Do you have the same CPU sample and the same PSU on both motherboards?
;D

p.s.
In all the AMD (and Intel) data sheets you'll see 2666 MHz the max DDR4 speed guaranteed for the current CPUs.
Not faster !!!
You don't have to be a guru to understand why.
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