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[seanyagla]

If you're getting a 29xx chip, wouldn't you want 4 DIMM's to maximize the bandwidth to your CPU? With only 2 sticks you get half of the maximum bandwidth possible....just saying....

Also, the G.skill tridentZ RGB's can be quite good as well.

I would probably suggest 4 x 8GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB's at 3200 MHz. 2 x 8GB will run around $175 or so.....so that's a bit closer to what you want to pay.

I'm really glad you brought up that point about 4 DIMMs as opposed to 2. At some point. Somehow I missed the fact that quad-channel is now supported.

Regarding the TridentZ RGB option:
I took a look at the F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR kit, but noticed a handful of reviewers commenting that they had issues specifically with AMD/MSI. In one case, a G-Skill rep replied, noting that they had a separate kit which is certified for AMD compatibility. That kit would be F4-3200C14Q-32GTZRX which comes in at...$497.99. Yikes.

[darkhawk]

I'm really glad you brought up that point about 4 DIMMs as opposed to 2. At some point. Somehow I missed the fact that quad-channel is now supported.

Regarding the TridentZ RGB option:
I took a look at the F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR kit, but noticed a handful of reviewers commenting that they had issues specifically with AMD/MSI. In one case, a G-Skill rep replied, noting that they had a separate kit which is certified for AMD compatibility. That kit would be F4-3200C14Q-32GTZRX which comes in at...$497.99. Yikes.

No worries.
Personally, I've got some TridentZ RGB and it works fine at 3200 for me. But it's only 2 sticks on a Ryzen 5.

Up to you, but the Flare X or TridentZ RGB tends to be a good option.

[derekmski]

I'm using Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 and it is working perfectly with the Profile 2, running at full speed, no issues with the MSI B450 Tomahawk and Ryzen 7 2700X.

[shemgwapo]

hello i just built my 1st amd pc, my question regarding memory is, will this memory work on a b450 gaming pro carbon ac mobo?

https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/product/night-hawk-rgb-night-hawk-ddr4 

https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/product/xcalibur-rgb-ddr4.

its ram speed is 3466 and 3600, i know that my mobo can only handle til 3466 but will the 3600 work out of the box when i install it? or should i just still with g.skill 3200 ram? the price difference is minimal, just $20.

[ostapblender]

Hi! I have a relatively stupid question: what 1 | 2 | 4 DIMM means in QVL for X470 boards? Is that just the indication of how many modules in the kit or it's telling something more?

For example, CMK32GX4M2C3000C15 has two checkmarks on it. If at some point later I'll buy the same exact kit to double my memory and fill all 4 slots, is it expected to work or not?

[miklet]

you are correct! it references the number of sticks of RAM installed. 1 stick=1 DIMM

[rasit_v]

I followed this thread since march 2017 but has been away the past 6 months so i was hoping someone could share some "new" information about my issue and safe me hours of research.

I'm running this setup and since the beginning and cannot get above 2667 MHz without issues.
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X      
MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15

Questions:
1) Any safe way to get memory above 2667 MHz?
2) Is there a safe bios update (mine is from 09/20/2017)?

Thanks in advance.

[darkhawk]

Please do NOT use white text. Leave it as default. Otherwise I have to edit the post to see it because I don't use the default (absolutely crappy and horrible) theme for the forums.

[darkhawk]

'm running this setup and since the beginning and cannot get above 2667 MHz without issues.
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X      
MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15

Questions:
1) Any safe way to get memory above 2667 MHz?
2) Is there a safe bios update (mine is from 09/20/2017)?

Thanks in advance.

Any of the BIOS's posted should be safe for your board at this point. Some might be better than others.

I would go ahead and try updating to V1J and see how it plays out. Maybe it'll work better for you. It seems some other users with Corsair based memory saw better compatibility with the newer versions as well.

[rasit_v]

Thanks!

Could not download the latest bios because its redirecting to live update which does not work for me, but managed to update to a previous version and went from 26ghz to 2933ghz. Let see what it does.

About the white font. I could not read my own message for some reason so i changed to white :s

[darkhawk]

Thanks!

Could not download the latest bios because its redirecting to live update which does not work for me, but managed to update to a previous version and went from 26ghz to 2933ghz. Let see what it does.

About the white font. I could not read my own message for some reason so i changed to white :s

The easiest thing to do is to highlight/select all your text, and click on the "A" with the minus symbol in the toolbar above the box. That removes ALL formatting from the selected text and makes it default. That's what I do. It's the second to last icon in the bar on the right.

[horvath.dave11]

I would like to find it out that a msi x370 gaming carbon motherboard a ryzen works 5 2600-al and a gskill ripjaws F4-3200C16D-16GVKB you are 3200 MHz at least 2933 mhz? On the support list the motherboard acts but on the website of the gskill no.

[talrest_u]

Maybe you can use only default. Because some ram (not always) not stable for overclock. You can get blue screen errors.

[digitalsanpedro]

I'm researching for a motherboard, and three MSI motherboards are in my running.  I'd like to buy memory on the QVL if possible (don't want to be bummed out), but right now the website isn't showing any compatible RAM when I go to the support page for it (using Firefox):
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO#support-mem-3

FWIW, I'm interested in B450 Gaming Plus, B450 Tomahawk, and x470 Gaming Carbon.  The RAM I have in my cart as of now is Patriot Viper 4 GBX2 PV416G320C6K.  It will probably be paired with 2700x or and overclocked 2600. Any help would be appreciated it.

[perling83]

Now i have 4 x 4GB  on a MSI B350 GAMING PLUS

Gskill F4-2400C15D-8GNT 1.2v

But only work if i make the Ram voltage to 1.3v why is it so ?

And it works on oc to 2666mhz

[dbergstrand]

I'm researching for a motherboard, and three MSI motherboards are in my running.  I'd like to buy memory on the QVL if possible (don't want to be bummed out), but right now the website isn't showing any compatible RAM when I go to the support page for it (using Firefox):
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO#support-mem-3

FWIW, I'm interested in B450 Gaming Plus, B450 Tomahawk, and x470 Gaming Carbon.  The RAM I have in my cart as of now is Patriot Viper 4 GBX2 PV416G320C6K.  It will probably be paired with 2700x or and overclocked 2600. Any help would be appreciated it.

I am myself tomorrow buying the X470 Gaming Plus, Ryzen 2700 with the same Patriot Viper 4 PV416G320C6K as you have.

I was lucky enough to be able to check the list on what ram was compatible with Ryzen 2700 before the list Comp Ram was wiped clean... That specific Patriot ram is compatible!

[bmaka3234]

B450M Bazooka + Ryzen 3 2200G

I just received some Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 sticks from Best Buy.  

They're on the QVL but my particular version (5.32) is not.  Do you guys think I'm going to run into any issues?

[darkhawk]

B450M Bazooka + Ryzen 3 2200G

I just received some Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 sticks from Best Buy.  

They're on the QVL but my particular version (5.32) is not.  Do you guys think I'm going to run into any issues?

They'll most likely work OK.....but may not get the rated speeds. Instead of 3000, you might only get 2933 or possibly only 2667 MHz.

But will the computer boot? Probably.

[bmaka3234]

They'll most likely work OK.....but may not get the rated speeds. Instead of 3000, you might only get 2933 or possibly only 2667 MHz.

But will the computer boot? Probably.

I'd be perfectly fine with 2933 but 2667 would be disappointing.

[miklet]

My opinion is that the improved spec shown by the newer revision plus the latest AMD chipset firmware and MSI BIOS applied to your board will run at 2933 using the XMP2 profile. Maybe higher yet using the "memory try-it" feature with higher voltages. When using just two sticks of RAM on my older MSI X370 board I have a rock solid 3466 out of 3200 rated speed. The X470 board is using two unmatched sets of 3200 speed. Best stable performance is 2933. I hate a blue screen while playing games. So I am more interested in my gaming rig being solid. Personally I am quite pleased with MSI and Corsair. This AMD journey has been fun and educational.

[lochiaelzora]

Hello, i have buy a 450bm bazooka (micro atx) motherboard with ryzen 2200g and i want buy (from amazon Canada) the memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W)

But when i watch the compatiblity on the msi website it s compatible with
Memory by Rx-2x00G/GE
Memory by Rx-2x00

But he is write CorsairCMK16GX4M2B3200C16W ver4.31 (???)
And what is the difference beetween side single and dual ?






Tanks

[ipman1]

Hi,
Spec:
I have Ryzen 7 1700 3,8Ghz
MSI PC Mate B350
Adata XPG Z1 Gold 3000 CL16 8gb + Goodram IRDM X 3000 CL16 8gb in dual mode OC to 3200Mhz.  Work perfect.

[RemusM]

Adata XPG Z1 Gold 3000 CL16 8gb + Goodram IRDM X 3000 CL16 8gb in dual mode OC to 3200Mhz.  Work perfect.

Glad to hear, but that's bad practice and a bad idea anyway.

[ipman1]

No, its a test about Goodram compatibility, life time warranty, and europe manufacutre. Goodram use most Nanyna dram modules.
Not bad pratice, motherboard manufacture have consider various ram sumpliers, and be sure to customer can put any DDR4 module in motherboard when by sing to by XPM comp. You have Goodram modules in suport list, but what about newest modules? We need wait 1,2 or 3 years to put on it.

[yzmy88]

you are correct! it references the number of sticks of RAM installed. 1 stick=1 DIMM

So is that mean if it has 4 slots then i can only install 1 stick of ram per channel.

In my case i would like to install the module of 8gb X 4sticks of ram, the total capacity is 32gb, so i cannot install all of 4sticks, but can only install 2 sticks of 8gb instead ? Which the capacity only limited to 16gb

[RemusM]

Not bad pratice, motherboard manufacture have consider various ram sumpliers, and be sure to customer can put any DDR4 module in motherboard when by sing to by XPM comp.

As general rules:
1) Never mix memory modules. Always use factory matched kits.
2) don't overclock (to 3200) memory modules rated (already overclocked) to 3000.
They were rated to 3000 because those chips failed certain 3200 tests.

[theblacksmith1995]

Guys... is AX4U320038G16 -BRS the same as AX4U320038G16-SRS? the different is BRS and SRS. is it a big deal? btw, my mobo support the BRS model.

[darkhawk]

Most likely it will be fine. It probably deals with the color.

[RemusM]

The 1st message of this topic is about AMD Ryzen 1XXX processors.
Talking about Ryzen 2XXX processors, here are the guaranteed speeds:

[user00]

Current Setup:
Motherboard:  x470 Gaming Pro with latest BIOS
RAM:  G.Skill Trident Z 3200 F4-3200C14D-16GTZ
XMP Profile automatically runs at 3200 with no issues

Considering replacing the 2x8GB sticks with a 2x16GB kit, the G.Skill Sniper X model:  F4-3200C16D-32GSX
Just curious if anyone has had any success with the non-AMD branded Sniper X (Hynix IC).
Thanks!

[user00]

Yup, the G.Skill Sniper X model:  F4-3200C16D-32GSX (2x16GB) kit works with XMP profile (autodetect) on Gaming Pro x470.

[jroundk6]

I have a MSI X370 Gaming Plus motherboard with a Ryzen 2600

As there was a good deal on this 32GB RAM set the other day I purchased it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HP84MP1?tag=22

Ballistix BLS4K8G4D30BESBK 32 GB Kit (8 GB x 4) DDR4 3000 MT/s (PC4-24000) CL16 SR x 8 Unbuffered DIMM 288-Pin Memory

The issue is it seems stable if I have 1, 2 or even 3 of the sticks in (24GB) but as soon as I put the 4 sticks in the board becomes very unreliable, sometimes it will POST, other times not, even if it does POST then Windows 10 freezes at the spinning circle even after a clean installation.

I have tested the sticks individually in all the slots and they passed memory checks so a bit confused now, latest BIOS is installed too.

Should these be fully compatible with the X370 Gaming Plus or should I send them back to Amazon and purchase something else?

[darkhawk]

I have a MSI X370 Gaming Plus motherboard with a Ryzen 2600

As there was a good deal on this 32GB RAM set the other day I purchased it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HP84MP1?tag=22

Ballistix BLS4K8G4D30BESBK 32 GB Kit (8 GB x 4) DDR4 3000 MT/s (PC4-24000) CL16 SR x 8 Unbuffered DIMM 288-Pin Memory

The issue is it seems stable if I have 1, 2 or even 3 of the sticks in (24GB) but as soon as I put the 4 sticks in the board becomes very unreliable, sometimes it will POST, other times not, even if it does POST then Windows 10 freezes at the spinning circle even after a clean installation.

I have tested the sticks individually in all the slots and they passed memory checks so a bit confused now, latest BIOS is installed too.

Should these be fully compatible with the X370 Gaming Plus or should I send them back to Amazon and purchase something else?

Stock settings? Or overclocked? Or what?
Honestly, they should work fine.

[jroundk6]

I have tried several CMOS clears without success just to ensure they were running at stock but still the same issues (BIOS reports them running as 2400MHZ without any tweaking applied)

Sometimes the BIOS will only recognise 16GB, sometimes Windows will show 32GB but 16GB usable, but most of the time just a full lock up before it even gets to Windows so not quite sure what is going on :(

[solosortie]

I have not read every post here but i feel like the bios version has a lot to do with memory compatibility.  I have a B-450 A PRO mobo and i have had my tightest ram timings on version 7B86vA3 (the one that introduces sata hotplugging).  The 2 more recent bios revisions wont post with the timings and frequency i had on version 7B86vA3... even loosening the timings did not help. Was running at 3400mhz but now only 3200.  3333mhz does post and seems fine but i dont like the odd number so we are at 3200mhz with slightly modified timings.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232731   -  its a g.skill 3600mhz cl19 kit. 

also running a 2600X cpu.

and i thought ALL ryzen CPUs are dual channel memory only atm. Why do we want to run 4 sticks of ram when it is not really optimal?

[artur.aragao]

Dear,

I'm looking for memories that will close 32GB and 64GB settings for the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM. Could someone help me? I'm looking for compatible memories that can work at frequencies up to 3200 MHz. In 2 banks or 4 banks.
Preference for Corsair or other memories that have LED system.
Unfortunately the current list of memory compatibility for the 1st generation Ryzen is half outdated and outdated. There are no memories with combinations of 32GB and 64GB. I am a little disappointed with MSI in this information issue.

Thanks for the contributions.

[dracconusg]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but given the title of this article I'll go ahead, and do so.
I'm currently using an MSI B450 Gaming Plus paired with TeamGroup Vulkan DDR4 2666Mhz 2x8GB Kit and it not only works flawlessly but also overclocks to 3200Mhz with tighter timings without a single hitch even though it's not "officially" supported ram.
I'm sure some of this is due in part to the Ryzen 5 2600 processor since the memory compatibility was expanded with their AGESA code, but either way it's a notable mention since the kit is cheap, single-rank dual channel and performs QUITE well given the Hynix chips that are installed on it.

[user00]

Yup, the G.Skill Sniper X model:  F4-3200C16D-32GSX (2x16GB) kit works with XMP profile (autodetect) on Gaming Pro x470.

For those that might be having trouble tweaking their RAM - came across two good reads.

TLDR:  Download and run the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen (now at v1.4.1).  The MSI BIOS will let you set everything you need manually that might make it more stable and perform better than the XMP auto settings.

Detailed write-up:  https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Tweaking_Overclocking_Guide/
DRAM Calculator Tips: :  https://www.overclock.net/forum/27694284-post3363.html

If you don't know your specific RAM type or whether it's Single/Dual Rank, you'll need another utility.
Thaiphoon Burner, Freeware:  http://www.softnology.biz/files.html

I was able to take the Sniper X model above and it works fine with the "Fast" settings and the performance benchmarks confirm it.

Hope that helps someone.

[veganfanatic]

Because the entire MSI forum is bloated with topics related to AMD Ryzen CPUs and B350 motherboards.

1) The XMP (overclocking) profiles have been designed by Intel for the Intel CPUs.
They are not even guaranteed by Intel to work on any Intel CPU.
Trying to make them work on the AMD CPUs is gambling.

2) At these moment these are the memory configs & speeds guaranteed by AMD for their Ryzen CPUs:
1866 MHz for 4 DIMMs in dual channel and dual rank.
2133 MHz for 4 DIMMs in dual channel and single rank.
2400 MHz for 2 DIMMs in dual channel and dual rank.
2666 MHz for 2 DIMMs in dual channel and single rank.
Anything above that is gambling.

Don't tell that to my CPU with DDR4-2800 with 4 sticks of single rank RAM installed

[Nichrome]

Don't tell that to my CPU with DDR4-2800 with 4 sticks of single rank RAM installed

That's the guaranteed speeds RemusM relates to...

[ssathubongdem]

i have X570 gaming plus with ryzen 2700x but when i try to enable A-XMP my PC restart several times (4-5 times) before boot normal and only 2133 on windows
i'm already try with 2400mhz - 2933mhz range in bios but same result any idea to increase speed i know it hard to go over 3000 but 2933 is nice for me even 2666.
my ram is gskill tridentz F4-3200C16D-16GTZB with 2A and 2B slot
im also tried with dram calculator with safe but get black screen and need to clear CMOS 

[lilsaf44]

I have the two different sets of corsair kits (total 16gb). so 2x4gb c15 1.35v and the other is the same but c15L 1.36v. Will this cause issues for OCing?

[Nichrome]

I have the two different sets of corsair kits (total 16gb). so 2x4gb c15 1.35v and the other is the same but c15L 1.36v. Will this cause issues for OCing?

Might cause issues. Mixing RAM is terrible practice.

[NeonFlak]

Long story short, I have an X470 Gaming Pro Carbon running bios 7B78v28 and a 2700x.  I was using a memory kit that was not on the QVL and was having problems getting it stable at any speed.  I then purchased this kit, F4-3200C16D-32GSX, which is on the QVL.  I have not been able to get this kit stable at any speeds or timings above 2933.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I did try the ryzen dram calculator, but that gave me worse results than the XMP and Try IT settings in the bios.

[Nichrome]

Long story short, I have an X470 Gaming Pro Carbon running bios 7B78v28 and a 2700x.  I was using a memory kit that was not on the QVL and was having problems getting it stable at any speed.  I then purchased this kit, F4-3200C16D-32GSX, which is on the QVL.  I have not been able to get this kit stable at any speeds or timings above 2933.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I did try the ryzen dram calculator, but that gave me worse results than the XMP and Try IT settings in the bios.

According to CPU spec, it can only take 2933MHz, and above is overclock (not guaranteed by anyone).
Might as well be something with your system in general. Open new topic about it, and follow >>Posting Guide<<

[dkosiarz]

Hello, i have buy a 450bm bazooka (micro atx) motherboard with ryzen 2200g and i want buy (from amazon Canada) the memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W)

But when i watch the compatiblity on the msi website it s compatible with
Memory by Rx-2x00G/GE
Memory by Rx-2x00

But he is write CorsairCMK16GX4M2B3200C16W ver4.31 (???)
And what is the difference beetween side single and dual ?






Tanks

Can some1 answer this? Is side=rank, so single side memories cannot work in dual rank?

[rbleroy91]

Hello,
No, Side=/=Rank. "Single" says only that all memory modules are on the same side of the RAM stick. As you can see >>Here<<:
- CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W is able to work in dual and quad channel modes.
- Corsair announces it is compatible with AMD 300 and 400 (as your B450M Bazooka) series.
Have a good day,

[dkosiarz]

Oh I see, so generally single sided should be faster.

[rbleroy91]

Oh I see, so generally single sided should be faster.

Sometimes, but the real intent is design: a single side stick is thinner than a dual sides.

[mmmm303]

i have a Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 and x470 gaming plus, I think after updating BIOS to A9 it stopped working at 3200, and only works at 2667. It will restart a few times before booting up into BIOS screen and subsequently win10. There's no instability after that so I don't think it's my other settings.