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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #200 on: 07-February-18, 01:24:29 »

Tried to contact MSI Support about the GAME BOOST LED problem got this since yesterday .....


L.E. Seems to work now after 1 day of trying ;>

New bios can now run 2x8GB Gskill H5AN8G8NAFR-TFC Hynix AFR at 3200Mhz XMP all AUTO before wasn't possible more then 2933 and with manual settings.
4x8GB no go with any XMP Profile and the error i'm getting is D8(Invalid Password) :>> and not F9 as with previous bioses.
I now run 4x8GB at 2800Mhz with 14-16-16-16-34 tweaked timings before weren't stable at 16-18-18-18-38. I will play with manual settings over weekend and see if i can improve more.
   
     Where are you obtaining this new bios from , it is certainly not on this website.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #201 on: 08-February-18, 05:58:31 »

U might wanna check again the support page : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#down-bios ;>
Version 7A31v1C
Release Date 2018-01-29
File Size 10.25 MB
 
Description
 
- Improved memory compatibility.
 - Improved PCIE device compatibility.
 - Update AGESA Code 1.1.0.1 to support Raven Ridge CPU.
 
    Yes. But this angers me. They have an official release bios without public beta testing. That is very bad methodology.The reason there is public beta testing is to determine flaws that the developers would not see as they do not have every hardware variable covered in their labs or with their corporate customers. This is a bad policy that I hope they never repeat. By the way they have enhanced memory compatibility with poorer memory performance. My fps on cinebench 15 opengl is 10 points lower than it was with bios 1.90.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #202 on: 08-February-18, 07:49:51 »

 
    Yes. But this angers me. They have an official release bios without public beta testing. That is very bad methodology.The reason there is public beta testing is to determine flaws that the developers would not see as they do not have every hardware variable covered in their labs or with their corporate customers. This is a bad policy that I hope they never repeat. By the way they have enhanced memory compatibility with poorer memory performance. My fps on cinebench 15 opengl is 10 points lower than it was with bios 1.90.

*Sigh*

How many times do I really need to explain that this isn't the place to be complaining about that? It is 100%, absolutely, positively, pointless here. All it does is frustrate EVERYONE else. And I've said this to you multiple times now. And you still continue doing it. So one last time. See : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<< and then >>How to contact MSI.<<
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #203 on: 08-February-18, 09:19:03 »

Nothing in this very post is informative, you are just ranting and wasting everybodys time including yours.
You are asking a rhetoric question,which has an obvious answer looking at darkhawks link, though evidently your didn't get it.
If their actual support can't help you just remember that, and don't buy again, it's that simple.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #204 on: 08-February-18, 10:38:26 »

Darkhawk does this stuff voluntarily and he has to tell this person the same thing over and over, somehow your reaction doesn't make sense.

What you described sounds more like a minor inconvenience, rather than a serious bug. The amount of people that would get that kinda board to just apply automated OC via the press of a button but at the same time care enought to keep BIOS up to date and report bugs is probably not that high.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #205 on: 08-February-18, 11:10:13 »

I'm trying since this morning 6 am or so to contact technical support . All I'm getting when hitting the replay button is that 500 server busy error....

Maybe is good to INFORM ("frustrate" ??) other people so they actually flood the support system with complaints and maybe after getting jaw dropping response like in my case for a ticked named BIOS 7A31v1C (2018-01-29) GAME BOOST
 they complain even more , RMA motherboards or not buy them at all so those in charge listen to people paying their wages. From all this situation i speculate that the 1st line of people that triage the support tickets don't really have technical background

I don't see how threatening other people that comment here with BANS for what i see like perfectly fine and informative comments will help.

But then again what is this forum for ?
Do we all need to behave like 12 years old and say things like : OMG !!! How coolz is this , the new bios made my white led on motherboard turn red, MSI the best !!! to be on terms with forum rules ?

And ofc i will also get BANED with this comment because MSI THE BEST ;> but that won't fix the BUG i have with the new BIOS.

It's easy to be ignorant of situations. Especially when you clearly know nothing about it.

Maybe instead of being irrational and 'behaving like a 12 year old', you should recognize that there is more to it than just 1 simple post (like, I dunno, maybe 6+ months worth of posts.....if you spent time looking into it).
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #206 on: 09-February-18, 20:43:43 »

Well.... It's a good update for me.

I've had continual problems with my GSkill 8GB 3600 modules (F4-3600C16-8GTZR) from the very beginning.  I have never been able to use XMP settings and could never get above 2600.

With the latest update XMP profile #1 (3333) worked on the first try.

I'll try full speed (3600) later.







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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #207 on: 10-February-18, 17:36:42 »

Newest update gave me a nice stability bump in ram and lower voltage use in my 1800x as well, before highest stable was 2666 with 4 Dimms now i can do 3000 altho anything higher results in BSOD after a few minutes, this is without manual timing adjustment however, CPU and ram frequency was simply numbered in and everything else was left at auto.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #208 on: 13-February-18, 10:33:24 »

I installed the D1 as well but had no improvement concerning Ram. It seems that 3066 Mhz is the Border for my Kit. I managed to boot with 3133 but the mem test failed.

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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #209 on: 18-February-18, 12:59:55 »

Well i just got from support another beta E7A31AMS.1D2 and seems to have fixed the GAME BOOST LED BUG. Waiting for final BIOS E7A31AMS.1D0 to see if there aren't any regressions and BUG reappear ;>
 That is very good. I find the bios quiote stablewith enhanced memory compatibility. But the sacrifice in peroformance to get that compatibility is substantial. On offivial bios 1.90 I was oonly able to run my ddr 3200mhz CL14 FlareX b-dies at 3066 14-13-13-13-28 but had consistent Cinebnech 15 openGL scores between 127fps and 131 fps. With the new agesa code bios both official and this latest beta at 3200mhz 14-13-13-13-32 I am only scoring between 116fps and 118 fps at 3.925 GHZ . Net loss of approximately 7 fps in poerformance. What this translates to in other benchmarks and games I do not know. This decreased fps on cinebench has been noted by other users on am4 motherboards in spite of improved memory compatibility. This if it holds up being widespread would put it in AMD's court to improve the agesa code for performance. I guess we are early in the game with new agesa code so it is probably too early to make a judgement call. The small bugs that are stillo being reported will most likely be ironed out with further bios enhancements. I did report 3 bugs to MSI tech support and I presume they will pass them on to AMD.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #210 on: 18-February-18, 13:08:01 »

Well i just got from support another beta E7A31AMS.1D2 and seems to have fixed the GAME BOOST LED BUG. Waiting for final BIOS E7A31AMS.1D0 to see if there aren't any regressions and BUG reappear ;>
  Could you give me the link for this.1D2 beta bios? I would greatly appreciate it.
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« Reply #211 on: 25-February-18, 21:06:31 »

So I got to play today. And the results were amazing once I got everything dialed in.
I noticed that before putting on the mono block my biggest limitation was the VRM temps. So much so that I didn't even bother trying to overclock much.

I've got it dialed in now and the speeds are INSANE. And Stable.
I am curious to what everyone is running for voltages and if anyone would be interested in me taking the time to write up what I have as far as temps and voltages. (Because I am on a mono block and liquid cool the CPU/VRM)

Let me know.

R7 1800X @ 4.025Ghz w/ 16GB Flare X @ 3333 14-14-14-34-45-1T
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #212 on: 03-March-18, 15:24:35 »

4Ghz with 1.176 Vcore? Nice CPU you have there :)
I assume it's a similar bug to what CPU-Z had with reporting Bus Clock, introduced with the Raven Ridge compatibility patch.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #213 on: 07-March-18, 17:18:18 »

At 111.5 mhz for bus clock , if that ia accurate reading in bios, you are risking serious data corruption. I would call MSI about this . It is not a feature, but a bug.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #214 on: 08-March-18, 01:41:05 »

Looking at your Min/Max/Current, are you running AUTO settings or AMD Cool'n'Quiet?
I have seen a jump as far as 104 and that was me pushing it with manual clocks and it compensating. (Under a Mono Block even.)
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #215 on: 22-March-18, 15:42:30 »

Darkhawk, by the amount of time that has transpired since the last beta, my guess is that there will be no more betas until Pinnacle Ridge code is ready for release. Tell me if you think that my take on it is most likely correct.
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« Reply #216 on: 22-March-18, 16:04:11 »

Check his last post in this thread https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=301362.0
So yes, your assumption would most likely be correct.
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« Reply #217 on: 22-March-18, 16:06:47 »

Darkhawk, by the amount of time that has transpired since the last beta, my guess is that there will be no more betas until Pinnacle Ridge code is ready for release. Tell me if you think that my take on it is most likely correct.

Generally speaking, MSI hasn't been keen on us providing the newer BETA BIOS's.....so probably not until the official Pinnacle Ridge bios's are out. Which should be relatively soon I believe.
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« Reply #218 on: 23-March-18, 11:26:29 »

Generally speaking, MSI hasn't been keen on us providing the newer BETA BIOS's.....so probably not until the official Pinnacle Ridge bios's are out. Which should be relatively soon I believe.
 
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« Reply #219 on: 30-March-18, 06:29:38 »

I did: some new stuff under overclocking/cpu sektion. Mem is still running @ 3066 mhz.

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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #220 on: 30-March-18, 15:09:26 »

New Bios
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#down-bios
7A31v1E Release Date 2018-03-19 File Size 10.54 MB
 
 
 
Description
 
- Improved memory compatibility.
 - Improved M.2 device compatibility.
 - Improved Windowns7 compatibility.
 - Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.1a to support new upcoming processors.

Anyone tried it ?



  
     I installed it yesterday. It is stable unlike the last two betas. The memory oc is smaller than on the preceeding betas, but still good. As soon as the Ryzen 2 processors are out , I will but the 2700X and most likely an x470 motherboard. Which motherboard remains a mystery. If MSI has improved the power phase control for both cpu and memory I will buy an updated Titanium. Since these Pinnacle Ridge cpus run at higher clock speeds with a slightly higher TDP and the memory is going to overclock to higher speeds improved power phase control is a MUST. I am eager to see the specs on all these new motherboards. By the way I just bought a sewcond RX Vega 56 reference card , MSI this time. Iwill run it with my other custom cooled Vega 56 in power save mode on wattman. Should raise my 4K FPS to above 90 for my games. I might custom cool this card as well, but not right away. I am hoping in power save mode my 860 watt platinum Seasonic power supply will be adequate. I am sure if I use custom power settings I would need a 1000 volt power supply. Good ones run at least $200 even on sale. So that may be something I put off for a while.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #221 on: 01-April-18, 12:09:11 »

New Bios
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#down-bios
7A31v1E Release Date 2018-03-19 File Size 10.54 MB
 
 
 
Description
 
- Improved memory compatibility.
 - Improved M.2 device compatibility.
 - Improved Windowns7 compatibility.
 - Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.1a to support new upcoming processors.

Anyone tried it ?
That is the first BIOS that I can lock core voltage at 1.35V (1.352, sometimes 1.344) instead of rushing over 1.5V automatically (that core voltage setting was never working on my motherboard)
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #222 on: 05-April-18, 04:42:34 »

Is there any news when MIS will announce their X470 motherboard lineup with full specs and features? I am interested n what improvements will be made to the Titanium, specifically if they will beef up vrm digo power for gpu and memory. With the higher cpu clock speed, and memory speed on thecRyzen 2 and is higher TDP, it would be the prudent thing to do.
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« Reply #223 on: 05-April-18, 06:17:02 »

No one here will know anything. Not even the moderators are privy to information before it's released publicly. We honestly have nothing to share (ie we really don't know anything regarding non-released products).
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« Reply #224 on: 06-April-18, 21:50:50 »

Some of the new x470 motherboard are already leaked on internet, just do a search on google ;>

Example :
OLD  : MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC
NEW : MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Removed 1x PCI-E x1 slot because they integrated the external WIFI card from X370 into the motherboard
Added another 8 pin ATX conector etc...

 
  I am more interested whether there will be x470 Xpower Titanium with improved digi power phase or the x470 M& AC with improved power phase. If not I will probably jump to Asus Crosshair VII.  I would prefer to stay with MSI if they improve this power phase issue on their high end X470 boards.
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« Reply #225 on: 07-April-18, 13:09:46 »

FYI, a year later I put the board back in :)
Updated to latest BIOS, set XMP Profile 1 (2800MHz) and works like a charm out of the box.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #226 on: 11-April-18, 17:05:29 »

After reading all the internet ;> about the horror of not being able to boot Windows 7 with new bios, made a separate usb stick with AFUE592.efi downgrade method,  today took a leap of faith and flashed E7A31AMS.1E0
I can confirm i lost around 25% memory speed with new bios, the VirtualBox Guests sounds now play in slow motion .... no crashes yet but its fresh so i will see in the following days.



I believe people experiencing the pci.sys boot crash after flashing latest bios on Windows 7 is related to old Microsoft pci.sys driver not being updated to the AMD one



The bad part is the AMD driver setup doesn't install it by default instead it's copied to C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\ folder with changed extension for the files...



In order to update the PCI Bus driver on Windows 7 with AMD one the files extension need to be changed like this :

amdkmpfd.csz -> amdkmpfd.cat
amdkmpfd.isz -> amdkmpfd.inf
amdkmpfd.ssz -> amdkmpfd.sys

Then it can be installed from Device Manager.

So there is my fresh experience with Windows 7 and latest bios.
      
      I also confirm the loss of memory performance .  I raised it with MSI technical support and their "solution" was to emaol me an old .D2 beta bios. Not going to bother with it. I had installed that bios and it had made no difference concerning this memory performance problem I am experiencing. I will just wait another month or two and hope by then news bios revisions will address the issue.
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« Reply #227 on: 13-April-18, 04:11:09 »

Isn't that only relevant if you were to do BCLK overclocking. If so, why would you necessarily need or want to?
I haven't read up on Ryzen 2 that much, where do you have your info from?
Though I know for a fact that my top of the line MSI motherboard has a seperate clock generator.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #228 on: 21-April-18, 19:16:22 »

I just had my Ryzen 2700X installed in my Titanium today with the latest official bios E0 . It replaces my 1800X. I aam getting a consistent crash in cinebench cpu for multicore any time the cpu is set above 3.8 GHZ. My old cpu ran flawlwssly at 3.9GHZ and even for testing at 3.9GHZ with stability. I have the same excellent liquid coolinbg in my system and Alphacool Eisbaer 360. I ramped voltahe to about 1.40 volts for 3.9GHZ attempts that should be MORE than enough voltage for a sub 4.0GHZ overclock. I have a 1200 watt power supply that is more than ample. No cables were disconnected in the installation. I have no idea why it comisstently crashes about 6 seconds into the multicore cpu run in cinebench 15. All assistance will be appreciated.
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« Reply #229 on: 22-April-18, 19:09:59 »

I just had my Ryzen 2700X installed in my Titanium today with the latest official bios E0 . It replaces my 1800X. I aam getting a consistent crash in cinebench cpu for multicore any time the cpu is set above 3.8 GHZ. My old cpu ran flawlwssly at 3.9GHZ and even for testing at 3.9GHZ with stability. I have the same excellent liquid coolinbg in my system and Alphacool Eisbaer 360. I ramped voltahe to about 1.40 volts for 3.9GHZ attempts that should be MORE than enough voltage for a sub 4.0GHZ overclock. I have a 1200 watt power supply that is more than ample. No cables were disconnected in the installation. I have no idea why it consistently crashes about 6 seconds into the multicore cpu run in cinebench 15. All assistance will be appreciated.
   Following up. It is a thermal shutdown when the cpu reaches 100 Celcius in these benchmarks. Never had temps like these before and my Alphacoool Eisbaer is fine as far as the pump speed and fans   according to bios and and whinfo64 readings. I never exceeded 64 Celcius under full load  on my 1800X on this Titanium board. My suspicion is either the bios is faulty and is not reading the 2700X sensors properly causing shutdowns or the cpu itself is faulty. I have seen posts of this happening on the Crosshair VII with a few users. It could be the the code AMD supplied the  motherboard manufacturers or the cpu itself. What are you guys hearing on this thermal shutdown issue???
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« Reply #230 on: 23-April-18, 07:21:41 »

First of all, apologies for what may be a stupid question. 

I bought the X370 Xpower Titanium on xmas day (bargain price), and it has been sat in its box while I waited for the price of Ryzen CPU's to come down. Luckily I waited long enough to be able to buy the Ryzen 2700x which should be delivered later this week. My question is, can I update the bios without the CPU working out of the box? I have built systems before, but this is new territory for me and I really don't want to bugger anything up. Thanks in advance for any advice offered
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« Reply #231 on: 23-April-18, 07:49:11 »

First of all, apologies for what may be a stupid question.

I bought the X370 Xpower Titanium on xmas day (bargain price), and it has been sat in its box while I waited for the price of Ryzen CPU's to come down. Luckily I waited long enough to be able to buy the Ryzen 2700x which should be delivered later this week. My question is, can I update the bios without the CPU working out of the box? I have built systems before, but this is new territory for me and I really don't want to bugger anything up. Thanks in advance for any advice offered

No, you'll need another supported CPU first.
If I'm not mistaken, AMD might have a service where they will provide you with a CPU to upgrade. I'm not 100% certain though.

See : https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #232 on: 23-April-18, 08:52:41 »

The manual at page 39 say it's should be posible with Flash BIOS Button with only PSU connected on AXT_PWR1 & CPU_PWR1 and a USB stick formated FAT32 with the bios file renamed to MSI.ROM on it.

Thanks for the pointer, I have followed the manual instructions, the BIOS appears to have updated. Hopefully it will all work out when I drop in the CPU
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« Reply #233 on: 23-April-18, 08:55:05 »

No, you'll need another supported CPU first.
If I'm not mistaken, AMD might have a service where they will provide you with a CPU to upgrade. I'm not 100% certain though.

See : https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx


I have flashed the BIOS, Its not as if I have anything to lose by trying it, hopefully it works out okay
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #234 on: 23-April-18, 18:38:09 »

This is my final post in this thread as I have upgraded to the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC with superior vrm and power phase support as well as better cooling for the m.2 drive.  My last post mentioned great difficulty with a thermal shutdown after installing the Ryzen  2700X  in the X370 Titanium with the 1E official Pinnacle Ridge supported bios Thjese problems surfaced when doing any benchmarks or stress on the cpu at all frequencies above 3.8 GHZ. Once I moved everything over to the new X470 Gaming M7 these problems completely disappeared. Conclusion 1: the 1E bios needs a lot of work before it can handle the 2nd generation 2700X. Power phase and power input for the cpu are insufficient to overclock the 2700X above 3.8 GHZ. Conclusion I advise against the expectation of successful overclocking of the 2700X on the X370 Titaniujm.. Save yourself all the grief and buy an X470 motherboard. I do highly recommend the MSI X470 Gaming M7. It is everything the Titanium is not at a decent price of $259 versus the $299 the Titanium sold for.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #235 on: 23-April-18, 22:04:22 »

Well i suspected since long time ago after i bought this motherboard from MSI that all our problems were because they are selling us subpar products with subpar support at expensive price points. I mean the most expensive AM4 motherboard doesn't even support RGB but 7 colors. All those moderators telling us we have crappy CPUs and that's why we can't run memory at higher speeds, then 1 year later i get a bios that magicaly runs my memory at higher speed with same components. What a joke ! And what a waste of money

But then again this could also be "Planned obsolescence" witch i think is illegal at least in EU.


This findings should be posted not only on overclock.net forum but also on reddit and other major sites so unware buyers stop buying products from a company that say officialy that AMD products are subpar. The only subpar thing is MSI . Even BIOSTAR has bioses with AGESA 1002a avaiable for download and that say it all.

Everyone has an opinion.....especially when they don't know the full story. Or the many emails regarding issues that get sent.....

Think what you want, 'subpar' products is going too far. Your post isn't even at least constructive criticism. It's straight up just ranting. So I'll do this first : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<

If you want to go to other sites, then I highly suggest doing that. Because this will not continue here any further.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #236 on: 27-April-18, 03:42:28 »

Just a quick post to confirm that with the latest bios flashed to the board, the Ryzen 2700X is correctly detected and boots to UEFI. No need to have a gen 1 ryzen to hand.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #237 on: 17-May-18, 20:01:26 »

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OFZ61G_B0pa8_48JjI0qe-b6s5orNwwF

1G2 BIOS. Since another user asked and I actually saw it was updated further than what was posted, I'll post this here too.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #238 on: 18-May-18, 03:26:50 »

Thanks for DL Link. Agesa is now 1.0.0.3 and for my Ram the XMP-Profile Switch is greyed out.

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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #239 on: 21-May-18, 17:57:13 »

Dear Mr Darkhawk
Any chance you might uncover a 1.0.0.3 Beta BIOS for the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon?
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #240 on: 21-May-18, 20:18:43 »

Dear Mr Darkhawk
Any chance you might uncover a 1.0.0.3 Beta BIOS for the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon?
Best Regards
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The support website currently has the latest BIOS I can see for it.
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« Reply #241 on: 03-April-19, 06:38:39 »

Hello,
Do we have any news about BIOS with ZEN2 support and new 0070 AGESA? Some companies already released new BIOS for x370 motherboards.
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« Reply #242 on: 07-April-19, 07:34:02 »

Don't get your hopes up MSI it's talking about cheapening out even on x570 motherboards by saving few pennies to use again 16MB bios chips instead of 32MB or more that are required to include all backward compatibility code to support all Ryzen series 1000, 2000, 3000 etc


While I'm not going to disagree with your point.....

Is it really needed? How many people do you really think are going to be trying to use a 1k series chip with a new motherboard like this?
I don't really see that as being required. Most people are going to be looking at a 3k series chip with a new motherboard like that anyway......Yes, I'm sure there will be some that are trying to upgrade the motherboard with an older chip, but that number is going to be very small compared to the number of people that will be upgrading to a whole new system. 

I understand your point, but I also think it isn't REALLY that required at this point. Besides, it's not like those 1k or 2k chips are going to support all the new features on that new board anyway.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #243 on: 07-April-19, 18:14:17 »

From my point of view all products from vendors that do the same by dropping support for older Ryzen series because they cheap out on bios chips should be considered crippled products that consumer should avoid. It's the same with this motherboard that advertise "RGB" and actually supports only 8 colors.

I'm ready to upgrade my motherboard to a x570 with all current components till Ryzen 3000 16c/32t comes out. 2 years was enough for my 1st and last MSI product.

P.S. You can add another 20% warning to my account for disturbing your MSI forum bubble

If that's the case, why come back? 
Why come back continually complaining on a forum where no one here as any ability to fix your issues? You'd be better off contacting MSI directly about it. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<
This isn't a public forum like Facebook. You're welcome to put your opinion out there, but unfortunately for you, it's not YOUR page to just voice whatever you want. That's not how it works here.
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« Reply #244 on: 08-April-19, 05:21:13 »

I believe Zen2 support should be released soon for all MSI x370 boards, the current BIOS file size is about 11 MB, and we have about 5 MB to add ZEN 2 support. Already released BIOS from other vendors for x370 boards, with ZEN 2 support, the size is about 14 MB, so 16 MB is enough.
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« Reply #245 on: 09-April-19, 06:53:28 »

Example from ASUS:

Version 4602
2019/03/25
Size 10.3 MBytes
PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 4602
Update AGESA 0072 for the upcoming processors.
ASUS strongly recommends that you update AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
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« Reply #246 on: 09-April-19, 09:03:44 »

Yep, you are correct about the BIOS size and free space.

I hope, if Asus was able to fit 0072 in 16 MB, MSI should be able to do the same. In other cases, I will sell MSI x370 and will buy any non-MSI MB with ZEN 2 support.
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« Reply #247 on: 10-April-19, 06:27:58 »

I am totally shocked by this schreenshots.
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« Reply #248 on: 10-April-19, 06:57:57 »

My suggestion for them would be to start removing Intel from BIOS

1st bios E7A31AMS.110 2017-03-01 and latest one E7A31AMS.1K0 2019-01-31

Suggestions should be sent to MSI => >>How to contact MSI.<<
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« Reply #249 on: 15-April-19, 19:40:45 »

And in the news : https://www.techpowerup.com/254634/msi-betrays-amds-socket-am4-longevity-promise-no-zen2-for-300-series

While I don't doubt the response from MSI, no technical reason is given. We're left wondering WHY that is the case.....

Besides.....there's plenty of blame to go around....As AMD hasn't kept their word either, at least not to OEM's. Even their specs have changed for the sockets as time has progressed. Hitting moving targets is bound to create problems like this moving forward, as it has in the past. Just look at the 2nd gen APU's and problems on some motherboards that it caused....

All things aside, it does suck. But given the improvements in Zen 2 and what it supports.....I'd pretty much say you'd have to be pretty :censored: cheap not to get a new board to get the full benefit of the CPU.
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