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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #250 on: 30-March-18, 06:29:38 »

I did: some new stuff under overclocking/cpu sektion. Mem is still running @ 3066 mhz.

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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #251 on: 30-March-18, 15:09:26 »

New Bios
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#down-bios
7A31v1E Release Date 2018-03-19 File Size 10.54 MB
 
 
 
Description
 
- Improved memory compatibility.
 - Improved M.2 device compatibility.
 - Improved Windowns7 compatibility.
 - Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.1a to support new upcoming processors.

Anyone tried it ?



  
     I installed it yesterday. It is stable unlike the last two betas. The memory oc is smaller than on the preceeding betas, but still good. As soon as the Ryzen 2 processors are out , I will but the 2700X and most likely an x470 motherboard. Which motherboard remains a mystery. If MSI has improved the power phase control for both cpu and memory I will buy an updated Titanium. Since these Pinnacle Ridge cpus run at higher clock speeds with a slightly higher TDP and the memory is going to overclock to higher speeds improved power phase control is a MUST. I am eager to see the specs on all these new motherboards. By the way I just bought a sewcond RX Vega 56 reference card , MSI this time. Iwill run it with my other custom cooled Vega 56 in power save mode on wattman. Should raise my 4K FPS to above 90 for my games. I might custom cool this card as well, but not right away. I am hoping in power save mode my 860 watt platinum Seasonic power supply will be adequate. I am sure if I use custom power settings I would need a 1000 volt power supply. Good ones run at least $200 even on sale. So that may be something I put off for a while.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #252 on: 01-April-18, 12:09:11 »

New Bios
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#down-bios
7A31v1E Release Date 2018-03-19 File Size 10.54 MB
 
 
 
Description
 
- Improved memory compatibility.
 - Improved M.2 device compatibility.
 - Improved Windowns7 compatibility.
 - Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.1a to support new upcoming processors.

Anyone tried it ?
That is the first BIOS that I can lock core voltage at 1.35V (1.352, sometimes 1.344) instead of rushing over 1.5V automatically (that core voltage setting was never working on my motherboard)
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #253 on: 05-April-18, 04:42:34 »

Is there any news when MIS will announce their X470 motherboard lineup with full specs and features? I am interested n what improvements will be made to the Titanium, specifically if they will beef up vrm digo power for gpu and memory. With the higher cpu clock speed, and memory speed on thecRyzen 2 and is higher TDP, it would be the prudent thing to do.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #254 on: 05-April-18, 06:17:02 »

No one here will know anything. Not even the moderators are privy to information before it's released publicly. We honestly have nothing to share (ie we really don't know anything regarding non-released products).
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #255 on: 05-April-18, 11:45:37 »

Is there any news when MIS will announce their X470 motherboard lineup with full specs and features? I am interested n what improvements will be made to the Titanium, specifically if they will beef up vrm digo power for gpu and memory. With the higher cpu clock speed, and memory speed on thecRyzen 2 and is higher TDP, it would be the prudent thing to do.

Some of the new x470 motherboard are already leaked on internet, just do a search on google ;>

Example :
OLD  : MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC
NEW : MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Removed 1x PCI-E x1 slot because they integrated the external WIFI card from X370 into the motherboard
Added another 8 pin ATX conector etc...
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #256 on: 06-April-18, 21:50:50 »

Some of the new x470 motherboard are already leaked on internet, just do a search on google ;>

Example :
OLD  : MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC
NEW : MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Removed 1x PCI-E x1 slot because they integrated the external WIFI card from X370 into the motherboard
Added another 8 pin ATX conector etc...

 
  I am more interested whether there will be x470 Xpower Titanium with improved digi power phase or the x470 M& AC with improved power phase. If not I will probably jump to Asus Crosshair VII.  I would prefer to stay with MSI if they improve this power phase issue on their high end X470 boards.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #257 on: 07-April-18, 13:09:46 »

FYI, a year later I put the board back in :)
Updated to latest BIOS, set XMP Profile 1 (2800MHz) and works like a charm out of the box.
Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz (2x16GB)
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #258 on: 10-April-18, 14:09:28 »

After reading all the internet ;> about the horror of not being able to boot Windows 7 with new bios, made a separate usb stick with AFUE592.efi downgrade method,  today took a leap of faith and flashed E7A31AMS.1E0
I can confirm i lost around 25% memory speed with new bios, the VirtualBox Guests sounds now play in slow motion .... no crashes yet but its fresh so i will see in the following days.



I believe people experiencing the pci.sys boot crash after flashing latest bios on Windows 7 is related to old Microsoft pci.sys driver not being updated to the AMD one



The bad part is the AMD driver setup doesn't install it by default instead it's copied to C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\ folder with changed extension for the files...



In order to update the PCI Bus driver on Windows 7 with AMD one the files extension need to be changed like this :

amdkmpfd.csz -> amdkmpfd.cat
amdkmpfd.isz -> amdkmpfd.inf
amdkmpfd.ssz -> amdkmpfd.sys

Then it can be installed from Device Manager.

So there is my fresh experience with Windows 7 and latest bios.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #259 on: 11-April-18, 11:25:03 »

Update : After 3  0x07F BSOD in a row with new E0 bios i downgraded the bios in uefi shell to latest beta D2 wich from my point of view is the best bios for my hardware right now.



Since i don't intend to upgrade to Ryzen 2000 series and everything works ok for me i won't update to the new subpar bioses that MSI tag as official instead of beta as they should be.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #260 on: 11-April-18, 17:05:29 »

After reading all the internet ;> about the horror of not being able to boot Windows 7 with new bios, made a separate usb stick with AFUE592.efi downgrade method,  today took a leap of faith and flashed E7A31AMS.1E0
I can confirm i lost around 25% memory speed with new bios, the VirtualBox Guests sounds now play in slow motion .... no crashes yet but its fresh so i will see in the following days.



I believe people experiencing the pci.sys boot crash after flashing latest bios on Windows 7 is related to old Microsoft pci.sys driver not being updated to the AMD one



The bad part is the AMD driver setup doesn't install it by default instead it's copied to C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\ folder with changed extension for the files...



In order to update the PCI Bus driver on Windows 7 with AMD one the files extension need to be changed like this :

amdkmpfd.csz -> amdkmpfd.cat
amdkmpfd.isz -> amdkmpfd.inf
amdkmpfd.ssz -> amdkmpfd.sys

Then it can be installed from Device Manager.

So there is my fresh experience with Windows 7 and latest bios.
      
      I also confirm the loss of memory performance .  I raised it with MSI technical support and their "solution" was to emaol me an old .D2 beta bios. Not going to bother with it. I had installed that bios and it had made no difference concerning this memory performance problem I am experiencing. I will just wait another month or two and hope by then news bios revisions will address the issue.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #261 on: 13-April-18, 03:10:00 »

Well guess since top of the line x370 MSI motherboards are crippled without a clock generator we won't see many improvements with new AGESA versions. Ryzen 2 allows overclocking cores individually and detached of memory overclock where they use the motherboard clock witch we don't have. So yeah on our subpar MSI motherboards with new bioses we will have to chose what we overclock : RAM or CPU :>

P.S. x470 motherboards started popping up for preorder : https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=X470&N=-1&isNodeId=1
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« Reply #262 on: 13-April-18, 04:11:09 »

Isn't that only relevant if you were to do BCLK overclocking. If so, why would you necessarily need or want to?
I haven't read up on Ryzen 2 that much, where do you have your info from?
Though I know for a fact that my top of the line MSI motherboard has a seperate clock generator.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #263 on: 13-April-18, 13:42:17 »

The x470 MSI motherboards details are being posted on website : https://www.msi.com/Motherboards/

L.E. And a review off MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium  from today ! ? https://www.anandtech.com/show/12381/the-msi-x370-xpower-gaming-titanium-motherboard-review
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #264 on: 21-April-18, 19:16:22 »

I just had my Ryzen 2700X installed in my Titanium today with the latest official bios E0 . It replaces my 1800X. I aam getting a consistent crash in cinebench cpu for multicore any time the cpu is set above 3.8 GHZ. My old cpu ran flawlwssly at 3.9GHZ and even for testing at 3.9GHZ with stability. I have the same excellent liquid coolinbg in my system and Alphacool Eisbaer 360. I ramped voltahe to about 1.40 volts for 3.9GHZ attempts that should be MORE than enough voltage for a sub 4.0GHZ overclock. I have a 1200 watt power supply that is more than ample. No cables were disconnected in the installation. I have no idea why it comisstently crashes about 6 seconds into the multicore cpu run in cinebench 15. All assistance will be appreciated.
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« Reply #265 on: 22-April-18, 19:09:59 »

I just had my Ryzen 2700X installed in my Titanium today with the latest official bios E0 . It replaces my 1800X. I aam getting a consistent crash in cinebench cpu for multicore any time the cpu is set above 3.8 GHZ. My old cpu ran flawlwssly at 3.9GHZ and even for testing at 3.9GHZ with stability. I have the same excellent liquid coolinbg in my system and Alphacool Eisbaer 360. I ramped voltahe to about 1.40 volts for 3.9GHZ attempts that should be MORE than enough voltage for a sub 4.0GHZ overclock. I have a 1200 watt power supply that is more than ample. No cables were disconnected in the installation. I have no idea why it consistently crashes about 6 seconds into the multicore cpu run in cinebench 15. All assistance will be appreciated.
   Following up. It is a thermal shutdown when the cpu reaches 100 Celcius in these benchmarks. Never had temps like these before and my Alphacoool Eisbaer is fine as far as the pump speed and fans   according to bios and and whinfo64 readings. I never exceeded 64 Celcius under full load  on my 1800X on this Titanium board. My suspicion is either the bios is faulty and is not reading the 2700X sensors properly causing shutdowns or the cpu itself is faulty. I have seen posts of this happening on the Crosshair VII with a few users. It could be the the code AMD supplied the  motherboard manufacturers or the cpu itself. What are you guys hearing on this thermal shutdown issue???
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #266 on: 23-April-18, 07:21:41 »

First of all, apologies for what may be a stupid question. 

I bought the X370 Xpower Titanium on xmas day (bargain price), and it has been sat in its box while I waited for the price of Ryzen CPU's to come down. Luckily I waited long enough to be able to buy the Ryzen 2700x which should be delivered later this week. My question is, can I update the bios without the CPU working out of the box? I have built systems before, but this is new territory for me and I really don't want to bugger anything up. Thanks in advance for any advice offered
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #267 on: 23-April-18, 07:48:11 »

First of all, apologies for what may be a stupid question.

I bought the X370 Xpower Titanium on xmas day (bargain price), and it has been sat in its box while I waited for the price of Ryzen CPU's to come down. Luckily I waited long enough to be able to buy the Ryzen 2700x which should be delivered later this week. My question is, can I update the bios without the CPU working out of the box? I have built systems before, but this is new territory for me and I really don't want to bugger anything up. Thanks in advance for any advice offered

The manual at page 39 say it's should be posible with Flashback+ with only PSU connected on AXT_PWR1 & CPU_PWR1 and a USB stick formated FAT32 with the bios file renamed to MSI.ROM on it.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #268 on: 23-April-18, 07:49:11 »

First of all, apologies for what may be a stupid question.

I bought the X370 Xpower Titanium on xmas day (bargain price), and it has been sat in its box while I waited for the price of Ryzen CPU's to come down. Luckily I waited long enough to be able to buy the Ryzen 2700x which should be delivered later this week. My question is, can I update the bios without the CPU working out of the box? I have built systems before, but this is new territory for me and I really don't want to bugger anything up. Thanks in advance for any advice offered

No, you'll need another supported CPU first.
If I'm not mistaken, AMD might have a service where they will provide you with a CPU to upgrade. I'm not 100% certain though.

See : https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx
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« Reply #269 on: 23-April-18, 08:52:41 »

The manual at page 39 say it's should be posible with Flashback+ with only PSU connected on AXT_PWR1 & CPU_PWR1 and a USB stick formated FAT32 with the bios file renamed to MSI.ROM on it.

Thanks for the pointer, I have followed the manual instructions, the BIOS appears to have updated. Hopefully it will all work out when I drop in the CPU
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« Reply #270 on: 23-April-18, 08:55:05 »

No, you'll need another supported CPU first.
If I'm not mistaken, AMD might have a service where they will provide you with a CPU to upgrade. I'm not 100% certain though.

See : https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx


I have flashed the BIOS, Its not as if I have anything to lose by trying it, hopefully it works out okay
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« Reply #271 on: 23-April-18, 18:38:09 »

This is my final post in this thread as I have upgraded to the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC with superior vrm and power phase support as well as better cooling for the m.2 drive.  My last post mentioned great difficulty with a thermal shutdown after installing the Ryzen  2700X  in the X370 Titanium with the 1E official Pinnacle Ridge supported bios Thjese problems surfaced when doing any benchmarks or stress on the cpu at all frequencies above 3.8 GHZ. Once I moved everything over to the new X470 Gaming M7 these problems completely disappeared. Conclusion 1: the 1E bios needs a lot of work before it can handle the 2nd generation 2700X. Power phase and power input for the cpu are insufficient to overclock the 2700X above 3.8 GHZ. Conclusion I advise against the expectation of successful overclocking of the 2700X on the X370 Titaniujm.. Save yourself all the grief and buy an X470 motherboard. I do highly recommend the MSI X470 Gaming M7. It is everything the Titanium is not at a decent price of $259 versus the $299 the Titanium sold for.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #272 on: 23-April-18, 20:34:36 »

Well i suspected since long time ago after i bought this motherboard from MSI that all our problems were because they are selling us subpar products with subpar support at expensive price points. I mean the most expensive AM4 motherboard doesn't even support RGB but 7 colors. All those moderators telling us we have crappy CPUs and that's why we can't run memory at higher speeds, then 1 year later i get a bios that magicaly runs my memory at higher speed with same components. What a joke ! And what a waste of money

But then again this could also be "Planned obsolescence" witch i think is illegal at least in EU.


This findings should be posted not only on overclock.net forum but also on reddit and other major sites so unware buyers stop buying products from a company that say officialy that AMD products are subpar. The only subpar thing is MSI . Even BIOSTAR has bioses with AGESA 1002a avaiable for download and that say it all.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #273 on: 23-April-18, 22:04:22 »

Well i suspected since long time ago after i bought this motherboard from MSI that all our problems were because they are selling us subpar products with subpar support at expensive price points. I mean the most expensive AM4 motherboard doesn't even support RGB but 7 colors. All those moderators telling us we have crappy CPUs and that's why we can't run memory at higher speeds, then 1 year later i get a bios that magicaly runs my memory at higher speed with same components. What a joke ! And what a waste of money

But then again this could also be "Planned obsolescence" witch i think is illegal at least in EU.


This findings should be posted not only on overclock.net forum but also on reddit and other major sites so unware buyers stop buying products from a company that say officialy that AMD products are subpar. The only subpar thing is MSI . Even BIOSTAR has bioses with AGESA 1002a avaiable for download and that say it all.

Everyone has an opinion.....especially when they don't know the full story. Or the many emails regarding issues that get sent.....

Think what you want, 'subpar' products is going too far. Your post isn't even at least constructive criticism. It's straight up just ranting. So I'll do this first : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<

If you want to go to other sites, then I highly suggest doing that. Because this will not continue here any further.
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« Reply #274 on: 23-April-18, 22:58:59 »

If my ranting change something or not around here so be it, people who bought this motherboard or other MSI AM4 motherboards don't live under a glass dome to not see how other manufacturers treat theyir customers and all the beta, alpha , etc bioses they provided since last year. Not to mention the live forums they have where they actualy help people not like here where we get : we don't work here...

I didn't come up with the subpar experience MSI did : 

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« Reply #275 on: 27-April-18, 03:42:28 »

Just a quick post to confirm that with the latest bios flashed to the board, the Ryzen 2700X is correctly detected and boots to UEFI. No need to have a gen 1 ryzen to hand.
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« Reply #276 on: 17-May-18, 20:01:26 »

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OFZ61G_B0pa8_48JjI0qe-b6s5orNwwF

1G2 BIOS. Since another user asked and I actually saw it was updated further than what was posted, I'll post this here too.
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« Reply #277 on: 18-May-18, 03:26:50 »

Thanks for DL Link. Agesa is now 1.0.0.3 and for my Ram the XMP-Profile Switch is greyed out.

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« Reply #278 on: 21-May-18, 17:57:13 »

Dear Mr Darkhawk
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« Reply #279 on: 21-May-18, 20:18:43 »

Dear Mr Darkhawk
Any chance you might uncover a 1.0.0.3 Beta BIOS for the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon?
Best Regards
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The support website currently has the latest BIOS I can see for it.
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« Reply #280 on: 18-September-18, 15:22:35 »

The last beta bios H1 i got from support was from august and that didn't change the high voltage in the 7A31v1G stable bios from 13 July applied to my Ryzen 1700 when running on stock and auto settings or the extremely lower memory speeds when compared to the older 7A31v1E bios. After flashing back and forth between bioses and trying all their settings the conclusion was that  : the 1.4V and spikes over 1.45V for non overclocked 1700 was in the normal range... and for the memory speed i should wait for them
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« Reply #281 on: 03-April-19, 06:38:39 »

Hello,
Do we have any news about BIOS with ZEN2 support and new 0070 AGESA? Some companies already released new BIOS for x370 motherboards.
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« Reply #282 on: 07-April-19, 07:12:01 »

Don't get your hopes up MSI it's talking about cheapening out even on x570 motherboards by saving few pennies to use again 16MB bios chips instead of 32MB or more that are required to include all backward compatibility code to support all Ryzen series 1000, 2000, 3000 etc
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« Reply #283 on: 07-April-19, 07:34:02 »

Don't get your hopes up MSI it's talking about cheapening out even on x570 motherboards by saving few pennies to use again 16MB bios chips instead of 32MB or more that are required to include all backward compatibility code to support all Ryzen series 1000, 2000, 3000 etc


While I'm not going to disagree with your point.....

Is it really needed? How many people do you really think are going to be trying to use a 1k series chip with a new motherboard like this?
I don't really see that as being required. Most people are going to be looking at a 3k series chip with a new motherboard like that anyway......Yes, I'm sure there will be some that are trying to upgrade the motherboard with an older chip, but that number is going to be very small compared to the number of people that will be upgrading to a whole new system. 

I understand your point, but I also think it isn't REALLY that required at this point. Besides, it's not like those 1k or 2k chips are going to support all the new features on that new board anyway.
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« Reply #284 on: 07-April-19, 08:17:20 »

From my point of view all products from vendors that do the same by dropping support for older Ryzen series because they cheap out on bios chips should be considered crippled products that consumer should avoid. It's the same with this motherboard that advertise "RGB" and actually supports only 8 colors.

I'm ready to upgrade my motherboard to a x570 with all current components till Ryzen 3000 16c/32t comes out. 2 years was enough for my 1st and last MSI product.

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« Reply #285 on: 07-April-19, 18:14:17 »

From my point of view all products from vendors that do the same by dropping support for older Ryzen series because they cheap out on bios chips should be considered crippled products that consumer should avoid. It's the same with this motherboard that advertise "RGB" and actually supports only 8 colors.

I'm ready to upgrade my motherboard to a x570 with all current components till Ryzen 3000 16c/32t comes out. 2 years was enough for my 1st and last MSI product.

P.S. You can add another 20% warning to my account for disturbing your MSI forum bubble

If that's the case, why come back? 
Why come back continually complaining on a forum where no one here as any ability to fix your issues? You'd be better off contacting MSI directly about it. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<
This isn't a public forum like Facebook. You're welcome to put your opinion out there, but unfortunately for you, it's not YOUR page to just voice whatever you want. That's not how it works here.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #286 on: 08-April-19, 02:32:26 »

I post whatever i want whenever i want about the product i bought and own, informing other customers of the problems I encounter with it even when contacting support and unless this MSI forum policy is to approve only comments that praise them i don't see any problem. And this forum shows exactly the MSI customer relations :  zero, nicht, nada, niet. Guess they don't do customer damage control workshops at MSI with their volunteer moderators probably to save more pennies.

BTW In that video they say they read customer feedback on forum when researching for new products improvements. I highly doubt that.
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« Reply #287 on: 08-April-19, 05:21:13 »

I believe Zen2 support should be released soon for all MSI x370 boards, the current BIOS file size is about 11 MB, and we have about 5 MB to add ZEN 2 support. Already released BIOS from other vendors for x370 boards, with ZEN 2 support, the size is about 14 MB, so 16 MB is enough.
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« Reply #288 on: 09-April-19, 06:53:28 »

Example from ASUS:

Version 4602
2019/03/25
Size 10.3 MBytes
PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 4602
Update AGESA 0072 for the upcoming processors.
ASUS strongly recommends that you update AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
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« Reply #289 on: 09-April-19, 08:30:15 »

Don't compare the compressed bios files sizes both extract to 16MB

The difference is in the bios file free space sections:
PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 4207 AGESA 1006 3,8 MB free space
PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 4406 AGESA 0070 653 KB free space
PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 4602 AGESA 0072 598 KB free space

TITANIUM X370 BIOS K0 AGESA 1006 1,1 MB free space

So MSI has to fit 3,2 MB in 1,1 MB :> to include new AGESA if we look at ASUS
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« Reply #290 on: 09-April-19, 09:03:44 »

Yep, you are correct about the BIOS size and free space.

I hope, if Asus was able to fit 0072 in 16 MB, MSI should be able to do the same. In other cases, I will sell MSI x370 and will buy any non-MSI MB with ZEN 2 support.
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« Reply #291 on: 09-April-19, 11:39:09 »

My suggestion for them would be to start removing Intel from BIOS

1st bios E7A31AMS.110 2017-03-01 and latest one E7A31AMS.1K0 2019-01-31
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« Reply #292 on: 10-April-19, 06:27:58 »

I am totally shocked by this schreenshots.
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« Reply #293 on: 10-April-19, 06:57:57 »

My suggestion for them would be to start removing Intel from BIOS

1st bios E7A31AMS.110 2017-03-01 and latest one E7A31AMS.1K0 2019-01-31

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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #295 on: 15-April-19, 19:40:45 »

And in the news : https://www.techpowerup.com/254634/msi-betrays-amds-socket-am4-longevity-promise-no-zen2-for-300-series

While I don't doubt the response from MSI, no technical reason is given. We're left wondering WHY that is the case.....

Besides.....there's plenty of blame to go around....As AMD hasn't kept their word either, at least not to OEM's. Even their specs have changed for the sockets as time has progressed. Hitting moving targets is bound to create problems like this moving forward, as it has in the past. Just look at the 2nd gen APU's and problems on some motherboards that it caused....

All things aside, it does suck. But given the improvements in Zen 2 and what it supports.....I'd pretty much say you'd have to be pretty :censored: cheap not to get a new board to get the full benefit of the CPU.
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Re: X370 XPower Gaming Titanium (7A31V1) Bios Discussion
« Reply #296 on: 16-April-19, 00:22:08 »

After poking inside the current Titanium BIOS i come to the conclusion that the reason is lack of skill or laziness.No wonder the beta bios download thread is dead.
When a picture like this with 4 colors has a size of 760KB and the ones exporting the slices from Photoshop CC 2017 on 2017/01/19 18:07:31 or Photoshop CS6 on 2017/05/23 15:33:01 didn't even bother to remove the embedded metadata there is really no excuses for complaining you can't do it because you were to cheap to put bigger bios chips on your to motherboard. First you make sure you did your job then you complain that u don't have space left.
 
https://i.imgur.com/pZcsO0g.png

Meanwhile other vendors like ASUS could integrate memory profiles from forum members into bios since 2017: https://i.imgur.com/84JpJPO.jpg But Hero 6 uses T-Topology and Titanium Daisy-Chain.


Indeed we must be very cheap for buying the MSI top tier X370 motherboard and expect it to last more then a A320 one, but then again this an Intel Z170 Titanium motherboard with an AM4 socket glued on and not a real AMD AM4 motherboard.
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« Reply #297 on: 16-April-19, 04:01:14 »

Looks like MSI does not respect their customers.
I have most of my PC parts from the MSI (MB, GPU, Coller), but if Asus could provide support for their x370 customers, and MSI could not, I will prefer other vendors next update time.
I do not need any X570 features, I just want NEW CPU support for most expensive x370 MB on the market, as promised.
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« Reply #298 on: 16-April-19, 13:32:35 »

@smog

Not sure if you noticed yet, but this thread is about X370 XPower motherboard BIOS discussion, not about Asus motherboards.



MSI's official statement should be released within the next 72 hours.


Until then, no need for hate speech. 
Also please be aware that >>Forum Rules<< still applies,  whether MSI makes good or bad decisions. 
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« Reply #299 on: 16-April-19, 13:51:22 »

MSI press release, according to this issue.

Most of hardware news sites published information about MSI x370 BIOS issues today. So looks like MSI decided to update some x370 motherboards.
https://www.techpowerup.com/254669/msi-issues-clarification-on-next-gen-amd-cpu-support-on-300-series-motherboards
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