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« Reply #50 on: 19-July-17, 10:27:03 »

I am not sure how many time we have to say that we have no control and no ETA about BIOS updates...
See >>How to contact MSI.<<
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« Reply #51 on: 19-July-17, 11:04:52 »

^ any update for this? Im using R5 1600 3.9 and 3200 and on h61 bios. But in windows it says otherwise

There's a NOTE at the top of the very thread you go to to download any beta bios's, that explicitly states we have no idea, no control, and no information on when any BIOS updates occur, or will occur.

As far as the issue is concerned, the latest beta bios, as far as I'm aware, for every board, should resolve the issue.
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« Reply #52 on: 21-July-17, 22:18:18 »

Yes darkhawk is right, use Beta BIOS for now till they resolve the problem, worked for me no issues ever since.
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« Reply #53 on: 22-July-17, 17:53:18 »

Was wondering why the options in BIOS for the MSI Carbon Pro were watered down. Guess I am at the back of the line for updates. Will have to try latest BIOS when I get back on Sunday.
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« Reply #54 on: 23-July-17, 04:01:47 »

Hi Guys

I have a B350M Bazooka wth the latest bios (1.5)

My OC menu is slightly different with darkhawk it has the below


Please can you identify what the below is?

CPU NB/SoC Volate - this is the CPU NB voltage right?
CDO_VVDP voltage - not sure what this is but I read it can help with memory OC stability.

I ask because I'm overclockin my memory over 2400 mhz using Ryzen Master application but cannot find the "vddcr soc" in the bios.

Can you help point me in the right direction. 

Thank you!

Specs

Ryzen 5 1500x
MSI B350M Bazooka
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Processor: Ryzen 5 1500x @3.9Ghz 1.3125V
Motherboard: B350M Bazooka - Bios 1.6
Memory: Avexir Core Series DDR4 2400 (Red) 2x4GB CL16 @ 2933 Mhz 17-18-18-38 2T 1.35V
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« Reply #55 on: 23-July-17, 16:21:09 »

Interesting issue- X370 Gaming Carbon- latest bios. 16 GB ram 3200 running fine, CPU - 1600X
When I try to overclock the CPU. no mater how small of an OC when it goes to repost it does not recognize the GPU ( r9-Fury X crossfire) 

When I clear CMOS and start over it works just fine.

any ideas?
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« Reply #56 on: 23-July-17, 17:18:08 »

CPU NB/SoC Volate - this is the CPU NB voltage right?
CDO_VVDP voltage - not sure what this is but I read it can help with memory OC stability.

I ask because I'm overclockin my memory over 2400 mhz using Ryzen Master application but cannot find the "vddcr soc" in the bios.

cpu nb/soc voltage is what is known as vddcr_soc in ryzen master :biggthumbsup:

and as for cldo_vddp - it is internal voltage fed to imc ... for me changing it from auto (whatever auto voltage is..) to 925mv seems to have completely mitigated cold boot issue at 2933mhz

Interesting issue- X370 Gaming Carbon- latest bios. 16 GB ram 3200 running fine, CPU - 1600X When I try to overclock the CPU. no mater how small of an OC when it goes to repost it does not recognize the GPU ( r9-Fury X crossfire) When I clear CMOS and start over it works just fine. any ideas?


what vcore and llc are you using ?
this may be same issue as i have - since newest bios release (1.6) i can´t oc cpu with auto voltage and manually set llc  (like 3.7ghz, auto vcore, llc1) ... however it still works if both vcore and llc are set to auto or manual
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« Reply #57 on: 23-July-17, 18:19:39 »

cpu nb/soc voltage is what is known as vddcr_soc in ryzen master :biggthumbsup:

and as for cldo_vddp - it is internal voltage fed to imc ... for me changing it from auto (whatever auto voltage is..) to 925mv seems to have completely mitigated cold boot issue at 2933mhz


what vcore and llc are you using ?
this may be same issue as i have - since newest bios release (1.6) i can´t oc cpu with auto voltage and manually set llc  (like 3.7ghz, auto vcore, llc1) ... however it still works if both vcore and llc are set to auto or manual


I manually set voltage to 1.3... Not sure if other items were left on auto. Let me retry and I will get back
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« Reply #58 on: 23-July-17, 19:53:17 »

No luck with anything. Even just manually setting the OC to the std 3600. Leaving all else in Auto, making all else manual to the same settings. Time for more research, or wait for the next update
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« Reply #59 on: 23-July-17, 23:33:37 »

Thank you! @nesty1990
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Video Card: Palit GTX 970
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Processor: Ryzen 5 1500x @3.9Ghz 1.3125V
Motherboard: B350M Bazooka - Bios 1.6
Memory: Avexir Core Series DDR4 2400 (Red) 2x4GB CL16 @ 2933 Mhz 17-18-18-38 2T 1.35V
CPU NB/SOC 1.1 V
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« Reply #60 on: 29-July-17, 13:13:32 »

Ok success in overclocking my memory to 2933 mhz the other day ;D. Now on to overclocking Ryzen.

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Processor: Ryzen 5 1500x @3.9Ghz 1.3125V
Motherboard: B350M Bazooka - Bios 1.6
Memory: Avexir Core Series DDR4 2400 (Red) 2x4GB CL16 @ 2933 Mhz 17-18-18-38 2T 1.35V
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« Reply #61 on: 02-August-17, 18:59:52 »

I am running a 1700 @ stock and ram @ 2933 on a X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (non-AC)

But on the latest BOIS on MSI's site (7A31v17), no matter what clockspeed or voltage I change too the OC just won't apply and as soon as I go into windows it is running at stock speeds.

Is this solved in the BETA BIOS or will I have to deal with it?

Thanks ;-))

EDIT: Is there any chance I can change my display name to MattBoxer?

Thanks Again!
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« Reply #62 on: 02-August-17, 23:11:21 »

I am running a 1700 @ stock and ram @ 2933 on a X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (non-AC)

But on the latest BOIS on MSI's site (7A31v17), no matter what clockspeed or voltage I change too the OC just won't apply and as soon as I go into windows it is running at stock speeds.

Is this solved in the BETA BIOS or will I have to deal with it?

Thanks ;-))

EDIT: Is there any chance I can change my display name to MattBoxer?

Thanks Again!

I would start by trying a beta bios.

Changed your account name. login/password remain the same.
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« Reply #63 on: 03-August-17, 16:38:32 »

Thanks!

And yeah I'll try the BETA 😁
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« Reply #64 on: 04-August-17, 10:25:38 »

I would start by trying a beta bios.

Changed your account name. login/password remain the same.

Funnily enough, the board behaves the same even with the latest BETA BIOS. CPU in BIOS set to 3.85 and voltage @ 1.325 and as soon as I get into windows it has set itself back to 3GHz.

 Welp it was worth a try.

EDIT: the BETA I tried was V1.82.
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« Reply #65 on: 07-August-17, 09:57:36 »

Hi..I have a problem . I have ryzen 3 1300x with last bios update 1.5 on b350-bazooka . Every time when I try to use game boost or I manually OC CPU with any value it shows 1.55 mhz to me in bios and windows . I have win 10 64 bit ..And another problem is that when I manually set ram latency in bios they won't apply . For my ram -> ADATA XPG Z1 Gold 8GB DDR4 3000MHz CL16 Dual Channel Kit  works only xmp profile 1 wich is 2633 but xmp profile 2 won't work , bios automatically set 17-17-17-17-39 latency and I can't change them with or without XMP profile active .
Sry for my bad language , I hope you can understand what I mean . W8ing for reply ,thx !
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« Reply #66 on: 07-August-17, 10:32:46 »

Hi..I have a problem . I have ryzen 3 1300x with last bios update 1.5 on b350-bazooka . Every time when I try to use game boost or I manually OC CPU with any value it shows 1.55 mhz to me in bios and windows . I have win 10 64 bit ..And another problem is that when I manually set ram latency in bios they won't apply . For my ram -> ADATA XPG Z1 Gold 8GB DDR4 3000MHz CL16 Dual Channel Kit  works only xmp profile 1 wich is 2633 but xmp profile 2 won't work , bios automatically set 17-17-17-17-39 latency and I can't change them with or without XMP profile active .
Sry for my bad language , I hope you can understand what I mean . W8ing for reply ,thx !

This is not a support thread. Make your own thread in the motherboard section like everyone else does.
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« Reply #67 on: 12-August-17, 16:05:35 »

So I had to redo my memory OC as it was not stable at HCI Memtest.
Its now at:
2933 Mhz
17-18-18-38 2T
V 1.35
Cpu SOC V 1.10

For my Ryzen 1500x, this the sweetspot im comfortable 24/7
3.9 ghz with V 1.3125
It's a no go at 4.0 ghz with V1.375 as it crashes in OCCT. Not comfortable going above this voltage.

Now on to gaming :biggthumbsup:






CPU: Ryzen 5 1500x
Motherboard: MSI B350M Bazooka 1.5v bios
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« Reply #68 on: 27-August-17, 15:20:19 »

Thanks,

Using this guide I was able to set my OC to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
I stress test and bench mark the settings and temp remained under 68 degrees.
But when I shut down the PC, the pc cycle a couple of times and when I log in, the clock speeds revert back to default via CPU-Z and Ryzen master. 
But in the BIOS it shows the OC speed at the top of 3.9 but the ram goes back to 2133. I check the OC settings and the OC voltage,etc is set correctly, but in Windows it shows 3.6 instead of 3.9?
Is there another setting that needs to be set in the BIOS?
I've updated the BIOS to the latest one.

I'm using a MSI gaming plus b350
Ryzen 5 1600x
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« Reply #69 on: 27-August-17, 21:35:54 »

Thanks,

Using this guide I was able to set my OC to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
I stress test and bench mark the settings and temp remained under 68 degrees.
But when I shut down the PC, the pc cycle a couple of times and when I log in, the clock speeds revert back to default via CPU-Z and Ryzen master.
But in the BIOS it shows the OC speed at the top of 3.9 but the ram goes back to 2133. I check the OC settings and the OC voltage,etc is set correctly, but in Windows it shows 3.6 instead of 3.9?
Is there another setting that needs to be set in the BIOS?
I've updated the BIOS to the latest one.

I'm using a MSI gaming plus b350
Ryzen 5 1600x

Sounds like the RAM isn't quite able to do that frequency properly during a reboot. Have you changed your NB/SoC voltage at all? What about DRAM voltage? CLDO_VDDP?
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« Reply #70 on: 27-August-17, 22:30:50 »

Sounds like the RAM isn't quite able to do that frequency properly during a reboot. Have you changed your NB/SoC voltage at all? What about DRAM voltage? CLDO_VDDP?
Here is a screen shot of what it is doing:

Here is what the BIOS is showing:


And here what WIndows is showing:



And everytime I shut down the computer, it goes thru a power cycle about 5 times and the OC revert back when I login to WIndows.

I've just reinstalled Windows and I will use the chipset driver from MSI site and not the one from the AMD site and see if that will change anything.

Any other suggestions?
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« Reply #71 on: 28-August-17, 00:26:40 »

Here is a screen shot of what it is doing:

Here is what the BIOS is showing:
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]

And here what WIndows is showing:
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]


And everytime I shut down the computer, it goes thru a power cycle about 5 times and the OC revert back when I login to WIndows.

I've just reinstalled Windows and I will use the chipset driver from MSI site and not the one from the AMD site and see if that will change anything.

Any other suggestions?
You are right again, it is something with the RAM:
I think I have figured it out. It occurred when I OC my Ram. When I only OC the CPU and leave all the RAM on Auto the OC of the CPU appears correctly. Only when I OC the RAM this occurred. The Ram I have is Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) , even when I input the timings or set it to the Profile of 2800 , it reboots about 5 times and revert not only the CPU but the Ram instead, it goes to 2133, any idea of what this could be and what setting may be causing this?

Thanks.
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« Reply #72 on: 28-August-17, 00:52:08 »

Please re-read what I said above. I mean, I can't really make it any clearer. Look at the guide too. You've still got your NB/SoC voltage as Auto, and your DRAM voltage is still the standard 1.35V. NB/SoC could go up to 1.15V safely, maybe 1.2V, while DRAM could go as high as 1.45V safely. Both of those could help increase the stability and fix the issues you're having.
Which, if you had actually read the guide, you'd find that information. Which is the entire point of the guide.
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« Reply #73 on: 28-August-17, 12:16:38 »

Thanks,

Using this guide I was able to set my OC to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
I stress test and bench mark the settings and temp remained under 68 degrees.
But when I shut down the PC, the pc cycle a couple of times and when I log in, the clock speeds revert back to default via CPU-Z and Ryzen master.
But in the BIOS it shows the OC speed at the top of 3.9 but the ram goes back to 2133. I check the OC settings and the OC voltage,etc is set correctly, but in Windows it shows 3.6 instead of 3.9?
Is there another setting that needs to be set in the BIOS?
I've updated the BIOS to the latest one.

I'm using a MSI gaming plus b350
Ryzen 5 1600x
Try to overclock in bios instead of Ryzen Master. Its is just better in the bios IMO.

Please post your memory brand and spec.

A Cpu nb/soc starting from 1.05v up will really help in stabilizing the memory overclock.

memory timings is a factor too.
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Video Card: Palit GTX 970
PSU: Thermaltake 630W SE
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB
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Processor: Ryzen 5 1500x @3.9Ghz 1.3125V
Motherboard: B350M Bazooka - Bios 1.6
Memory: Avexir Core Series DDR4 2400 (Red) 2x4GB CL16 @ 2933 Mhz 17-18-18-38 2T 1.35V
CPU NB/SOC 1.1 V
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« Reply #74 on: 29-August-17, 05:00:02 »

Just got to the Ryzen ship recently coming from the legendary i5-2500k gaming horse. The experience of getting things to run properly (and I have built more than 20 computer for fam and friends) took me a grueling 3 days until I finally was able to resolve the random system freezing in windows. I thought it was a Ram issue or CPU issue so I played with all the voltages that I could play with as well as using 1 ram stick instead of 2 on all DIMM slots to no avail. I almost regret upgrading if I wasn't able to resolve the issue which was fixed by a clean install of windows 10 creators update instead of the clean regular windows 10. Weird issue and I even tried downgrading bios 2 times. Anyway here are my results so far.

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
  • 3.8GHZ (Auto core voltage since older bios prior to AGESA update is bugged and makes multiplier stuck at 15.5 when voltage is manually set)
  • Currently at 1.25V and stable on prime95 and PUBG + Stream. Wow, isn't the voltage at this speed lower than average? :) I'll push it further on the next weekend when I revert back to the latest bios.

Mobo: B350 Gaming Plus
  • One of the best if not the best budget B350 boards out there. Also, blends well with red color scheme :) 

RAM: G.SKill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (8GBx2)
  • (Non-QVL I just took a gamble and it paid out considering how expensive Flare-X 3200 costs)
  • Won't post on XMP or manual 3200mhz.. Didn't try 1.4+ voltage yet and I don't think I have the balls to do.
  • Currently Running at 2933 stable with 16-18-18-38-63-1T 1.344 voltage
  • Will try some tweaking after reverting to latest bios. I was able to run 3066MHZ when I first installed the sticks up until I thought my ram was causing the windows freeze issue.

In summary, My 3 days weekend and holiday I spent almost trying to fix the random freeze issue and just spent 4 hours setting the stable RAM/CPU overclocks above. Honestly almost regret it.. just almost :) My next weekend will be exciting as I try to push the CPU and Ram to the limit. RYZEEEEEEN POOWWAAAHH!!!
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« Reply #75 on: 31-August-17, 00:34:27 »

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CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
  • 3.8GHZ (Auto core voltage since older bios prior to AGESA update is bugged and makes multiplier stuck at 15.5 when voltage is manually set)
  • Currently at 1.25V and stable on prime95 and PUBG + Stream. Wow, isn't the voltage at this speed lower than average? :) I'll push it further on the next weekend when I revert back to the latest bios.

Mobo: B350 Gaming Plus
  • One of the best if not the best budget B350 boards out there. Also, blends well with red color scheme :)

RAM: G.SKill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (8GBx2)
  • (Non-QVL I just took a gamble and it paid out considering how expensive Flare-X 3200 costs)
  • Won't post on XMP or manual 3200mhz.. Didn't try 1.4+ voltage yet and I don't think I have the balls to do.
  • Currently Running at 2933 stable with 16-18-18-38-63-1T 1.344 voltage
  • Will try some tweaking after reverting to latest bios. I was able to run 3066MHZ when I first installed the sticks up until I thought my ram was causing the windows freeze issue.

In summary, My 3 days weekend and holiday I spent almost trying to fix the random freeze issue and just spent 4 hours setting the stable RAM/CPU overclocks above. Honestly almost regret it.. just almost :) My next weekend will be exciting as I try to push the CPU and Ram to the limit. RYZEEEEEEN POOWWAAAHH!!!
Confirmed 3066 is rock stable under 1.344v on these SK Hynix chips of mine. Will try tighter timings next. On the CPU side it's a bit weird. I tried as much as 1.35v but 3,900mhz or 3,850mhz and my pc would restart under prime 95 after a few moments. Not a heat issue as I was able to use good old H100 instead of stock cooler. Do yuo guys think this is more of the CPU chip limit or the mobo limit?
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« Reply #76 on: 31-August-17, 02:06:54 »

Confirmed 3066 is rock stable under 1.344v on these SK Hynix chips of mine. Will try tighter timings next. On the CPU side it's a bit weird. I tried as much as 1.35v but 3,900mhz or 3,850mhz and my pc would restart under prime 95 after a few moments. Not a heat issue as I was able to use good old H100 instead of stock cooler. Do yuo guys think this is more of the CPU chip limit or the mobo limit?

Most likely a combination of CPU and memory overclocking limit.....both play a part in this.
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« Reply #77 on: 31-August-17, 23:32:41 »

Most likely a combination of CPU and memory overclocking limit.....both play a part in this.
Hmm.. Well I can't complain. 3.8GHZ on 6/12 core/threads is mighty fast already xD Was able to tighten my mem timings to 14-15-15-15-35 so I'm quite happy now :D
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« Reply #78 on: 01-September-17, 04:22:43 »

Hmm.. Well I can't complain. 3.8GHZ on 6/12 core/threads is mighty fast already xD Was able to tighten my mem timings to 14-15-15-15-35 so I'm quite happy now :D

Honestly, on good days I might get 4.0 GHz with my 1500X. Most days I sit at stock.
And when I'm doing testing and want it stable, I stick to 3.9 GHz. 

I really don't have problems with it being stock at all either, I generally use my machine for mining anyway.
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« Reply #79 on: 01-September-17, 14:02:36 »

Honestly, on good days I might get 4.0 GHz with my 1500X. Most days I sit at stock.
And when I'm doing testing and want it stable, I stick to 3.9 GHz.

I really don't have problems with it being stock at all either, I generally use my machine for mining anyway.
 
Hey, could you help me? I downloaded latest bios and it won't allow me to overclock, it is disabled. Ihave ryzen 7 1700, b350 tomahawk and a gtx 1080 sc.
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« Reply #80 on: 01-September-17, 15:53:45 »

Hey, could you help me? I downloaded latest bios and it won't allow me to overclock, it is disabled. Ihave ryzen 7 1700, b350 tomahawk and a gtx 1080 sc.
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« Reply #81 on: 02-September-17, 01:08:12 »

This is the first computer I have built and the first attempt at Overclocking. I followed your guide and wanted to know if this will be safe voltages and temps for everyday use. After a day and a half of trying to get my ram to run @3200mhz the best I could get stable was 3066mhz in Manual overclock and Cpu @4ghz.

To get stable on Aida64 . CPU Ratio @ 4Ghz with Core Voltage @1.3875V. I did not try to overclock higher due to so much trouble with memory.

Memory would not post @3200mhz up to 1.45v. I settled for Manual overclock of 3066mhz . Dram Voltage 1.39v - NB/SOC @1.1375v . Cldo_Vddp left on Auto because I don't know what that is. Also had to change timing to 18-18-18-38T from timing on ram of 16-18-18-36T to get stable.

These are the settings that would make it through Aida64. I ran 5 times through Cinebench and immediately ran Aida64 for 3 hours. System remained stable throughout. All other settings I tried Aida64 would black screen and mouse and key board go dark. Computer would stay on and I would have to reset holding down the power button. I never used Aida64 before but I assume that means fail? So I settled on the settings I listed above because they ran without issue for over 3 hours on Aida64 two different times. I assume that means the PC is fairly stable

My concern is mainly if the voltages are safe to run as daily setup. I am not experienced with overclocking or computers . The thing that stood out to me was under load the mainboard and Systin temps looked pretty high while everything else seems ok. The case doesn't have greatest airflow by the Vrm.

Case: In Win 301
Board: MSI B350M Mortar
BIOS:  E7A37AMS.160
VGA:  EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2
PSU:  EVGA Supernova 850 G3
CPU:  Ryzen 1600X
MEM: GeIL AMD Edition EVO X 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200Mhz 16-18-18-36T - 1.35v
HDD/SSD: Samsung Evo 850 250GB, Western Digital Black 1TB Storage drive
COOLER: Corsair H110i V2
Keyboard: Usb Redragon
Mouse: Usb Redragon
OC:  Cpu -4Ghz @1.3875V - Ram 3066Mhz @1.39V -NB @1.1375 Can not get 3200Mhz
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« Reply #82 on: 02-September-17, 08:13:56 »

If temps are below 90C under maximum usage, then it's rather safe. Games won't use 100% of the CPU, so in those, around 60-70C will be expected.
Well, yes, if some program fails to open (causes black screen/BSOD) then OC is unstable.
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« Reply #83 on: 03-September-17, 23:02:45 »

Ok maybe someone knows whats going on. About two weeks ago I decided to oc my Krait x370 mb that's running a Ryzen 1700. All I did was put the multiplyer at 38 so I'm running at 3800mhz with everything else still the same. It runs really good but noticed a couple days ago running cupid that it was only showing 3200mhz so went and cked pc properties and it showed the same. But the weird thing is I went back into bios and it shows 3800 mhz. Any Ideas on whats going on? I am running the lates bios which I think is 7A33V15
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« Reply #84 on: 04-September-17, 04:20:35 »

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Memory would not post @3200mhz up to 1.45v. I settled for Manual overclock of 3066mhz . Dram Voltage 1.39v - NB/SOC @1.1375v . Cldo_Vddp left on Auto because I don't know what that is. Also had to change timing to 18-18-18-38T from timing on ram of 16-18-18-36T to get stable.
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Nice Rig and clocks you got there :D I think if you set your Ram command rate from 1T to 2T, You can tighten your timings a lot more or even try 3200MHZ which would help Ryzen CPUs push out a frame or 2 :)
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« Reply #85 on: 04-September-17, 04:27:00 »

Ok maybe someone knows whats going on. About two weeks ago I decided to oc my Krait x370 mb that's running a Ryzen 1700. All I did was put the multiplyer at 38 so I'm running at 3800mhz with everything else still the same. It runs really good but noticed a couple days ago running cupid that it was only showing 3200mhz so went and cked pc properties and it showed the same. But the weird thing is I went back into bios and it shows 3800 mhz. Any Ideas on whats going on? I am running the lates bios which I think is 7A33V15
Any unstable RAM or CPU setting from the bios will set your CPU/RAM to stock settings. Maybe try a little overclock only and see if it applies successfully and boots you through windows with it?
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« Reply #86 on: 05-September-17, 02:03:27 »

It boots just fine I'm saying that CPU-z is saying it is running at 3000mhz while in the bios it says 3800mhz
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« Reply #87 on: 07-September-17, 17:25:31 »

thanks for the guide , helped a lot
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« Reply #88 on: 12-September-17, 08:53:44 »

I have a MSI Carbon Pro x370 from MSI – there is an issue and when a manual vcore is set for exmaple 1.38v for a 3.9ghz overclock the vcore stays 24/7 @ 1.38v even in idle,load,gaming etc it never drops down to 0.6v, 0.7v in an idle state.

I have tried everything turned on amd cool n quiet, c6 states etc – it just won't work.
Another downside is that there is no voltage offset on this mobo.

Is it safe to run a ryzen 1700 @ 1.38v 24/7 ???

It makes it very hard to OC without P-state and vcore Offset... when will I get these basic features on my X370 carbon pro????? :(
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« Reply #89 on: 12-September-17, 10:47:37 »

I have a MSI Carbon Pro x370 from MSI – there is an issue and when a manual vcore is set for exmaple 1.38v for a 3.9ghz overclock the vcore stays 24/7 @ 1.38v even in idle,load,gaming etc it never drops down to 0.6v, 0.7v in an idle state.

I have tried everything turned on amd cool n quiet, c6 states etc – it just won't work.
Another downside is that there is no voltage offset on this mobo.

Is it safe to run a ryzen 1700 @ 1.38v 24/7 ???

It makes it very hard to OC without P-state and vcore Offset... when will I get these basic features on my X370 carbon pro????? :(

This is an overclock guide. If you don't have something specific to the guide, you shouldn't be posting here. 
MSI's Vcore control is a static voltage if you manually set the voltage. There is no adaptive voltage control unless you have it set to AUTO.
All that being said, did you even bother reading the first post before posting? Since some of your questions are answered there.......
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« Reply #90 on: 13-September-17, 12:51:56 »

MSI Gaming Pro Carbon. Ryzen 5 1600X. Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR 3200 RAM (Samsung B-Die).
NOTE: Hynix version of same RAM was unstable at this setting. Samsung works perfectly.

Running 100% 24/7 stable at 3.9 GHz on the CPU and using XMP Profile 2 gives 2933 MHz on the RAM.

Only changed 2 things in BIOS. Set CPU to 3900 and set RAM to XMP Profile 2. Everything else on AUTO.

Voltage when idle is 0.70 v. Under load goes up to 1.375 v.

Tried manually setting 1.425 v and going to 4.0 GHz but then it sits at 1.425 all day. Will not down volt like Auto. Damn.

Will stick with 3.9 for now until a BIOS update addresses that. Otherwise happy.

Charles.
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« Reply #91 on: 13-September-17, 17:06:22 »

Will stick with 3.9 for now until a BIOS update addresses that. Otherwise happy.
There will most likely not be a BIOS update to address it.
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« Reply #92 on: 14-September-17, 04:38:30 »

Hi,. Recently i have also bought the same motherboard and processor but i dont know why im not able to achive 4ghz overclock on my pc.also i replaced the stock cooler with coolermaster hyper 212x.
Even i have tried 1.45v on cpu core voltage and it is unstable.I also updated my bios to the latest beta bios but no luck. Wright now im running 3.9ghz at 1.375v.

Motherboard. Msi b350 gaming plus.
Processor. Amd ryzen 5 1500x
Ram kingstone hyperx fury ddr4 2133
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« Reply #93 on: 14-September-17, 10:23:56 »

Hi,. Recently i have also bought the same motherboard and processor but i dont know why im not able to achive 4ghz overclock on my pc.also i replaced the stock cooler with coolermaster hyper 212x.
Even i have tried 1.45v on cpu core voltage and it is unstable.I also updated my bios to the latest beta bios but no luck. Wright now im running 3.9ghz at 1.375v.

Motherboard. Msi b350 gaming plus.
Processor. Amd ryzen 5 1500x
Ram kingstone hyperx fury ddr4 2133

Not everyone will get 4.0 GHz.....that's generally around the limit of the CPU's. really lucky users might get 4.1 GHz, some might get 4.0 GHz, most get 3.9 GHz.
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« Reply #94 on: 23-September-17, 06:02:04 »

I have tried overclocking my ram and the best I can get is 2666.  The ram isn't listed on the compatibility list and I have confirmed with the store I can return it and exchanged it.  I have Corsair cmk16gx4m2b3200c16.  What is weird is the cmk16gx4m2b3200c16R and cmk16gx4m2b3200c16W are both listed.  Will I have a higher chance of getting better speed if I exchange it for the cmk16gx4m2b3200c16W. 

In regards to OC the CPU my Screen looks a bit different on my MSI B350M Gaming Pro board.  I have CPU Ratio the next line with the frequency is greyed out.  Am? I missing something?
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« Reply #95 on: 23-September-17, 20:25:20 »

An add-on to my above message I wanted to provide a screenshot.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AtcG2TZ_Kn5yobRpdOtUDRO60o-LOA
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« Reply #96 on: 28-September-17, 08:21:17 »

Hello. I just bought an 1300X + a B350 Tomahawk. Seems like there is a "wall" after 3950mhz. I'm perfectly stable until i go over 3950mhz, then, no matter what, Windows won't post, and sometimes also i have to do a Clear_CMOS to revive my PC.

I already tried to put RAM at default speed 2133mhz to be sure, they won't affect the CPU overclock, bu tnothing changed.

I already tried to raise the VSOC to 1.1 and VCPU at 1.45v but nothing changes. There is nothing i can do maybe under some advanced settings or it's just a limit of my CPU ? Thanks.
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« Reply #97 on: 28-September-17, 08:52:50 »

That could be a limit of your CPU.
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« Reply #98 on: 28-September-17, 09:18:09 »

Ok, thanks, that's what i thought also. Anyway this motherboard it's great, i tried already FOUR AM4 motherboards, and this Tomahawk is the best so far, also the price is great.
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« Reply #99 on: 28-September-17, 09:47:43 »

Oh i almost forgot a question. I can't find any offset changing at the Voltages, i can just put fixed voltages, is it normal ' Thanks.
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