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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #400 on: 24-June-18, 08:18:53 »

And this has been said (in other threads) that : A) MSI won't be adding Offset Voltage, B) If it doesn't ship with BCLK adjustment, it won't get it (it's a hardware issue, or lack thereof of said hardware) C) Focusing on things that either won't change, or can't change, won't fix the problem.

I won't disagree that MSI's BIOS's have been rather sub-par (I'm easily the most critical in that regard towards them, even as a moderator, and the most vocal as well). Trust me, I discuss it with them at almost every opportunity. I wish they were better. Just like you.

The best I can really suggest is contact MSI directly about the issues, and it might get fixed then. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<

A) They absolutely could if they wanted to. No reason why they couldn't. And it's so much more pertinent with 2nd gen XFR2 being so powerful.

B) The B350 Tomahawk had BCLK added to a beta bios which was subsequently removed. (one of dozens of sources available: http://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1627203-msi-b350-tomahawk-info.html#post26042392_) Now I understand that the board would ideally have a stand alone BCLK clock gen in order to separate it from the PCIe bus speed and not throw everything out, but it does seem like the option could be there, tucked away in an advanced settings screen with a warning for power users who want to try 101mhz or 102mhz just in case, and to get those XFR2 boosts up over 4.4ghz.

C) Well the above kinda makes it redundant a little, doesn't it. Though if you read my comment, I'm explicitly looking for PBO settings to overcome these other inherent problems limiting my 2700x I am giving up on (like real overclocking), that doesn't break my RAM latency. So you've really picked up on my throw-away complaints from the end of my message which explain why I won't be buying MSI again next time, ignoring the fundamental point of the remaining 3/4 of the post, as if they're "what I'm focusing on" ... when I've really resigned myself to them and just want basic Precision Boost Overdrive settings AND good RAM latency/stability. Certainly not too much to ask for in an x370 board. I can't even get my RAM 100% stable at 3333mhz CL14. It's 99% stable on the 2700x, it was about 90% stable on the 1600x. The RAM will do 3466 CL14 no problems, but this board just won't lock it in. 3200mhz CL14 w/ aggressively tweaked subtimings is thankfully rock solid and performs well, but my CPU still sits under 4ghz at max load with loads of voltage headroom, temps around 60degC, and VRM temps around 68degC. So headroom all around ... just missing PBO to get those extra boost clocks.

I've given up contacting manufacturers directly on this sort of thing. The respondents start with the presumption that you know nothing, and typically write it off as PEBKAC or similar. I've redownloaded the beta and official bios versions multiple times, tried from various USB sticks, cleared CMOS, reset all settings and manually overclocked again, always the same result. If the company aren't releasing regular stable bios versions which improve features and performance, many months after the launch of new halo products, that speaks volumes.

I'm still stuck between bad RAM or newer BIOS features (which I haven't tested due to the overwhelmingly poor RAM impact), and I've been stuck with the board just setting its own voltage regardless of bios for the last 5 releases, or my manual voltage settings, or my LLC settings. 25years building computers, 15years overclocking, never experienced a board that didn't actually make the adjustments I set in bios. The only reason I'm still using this board is because I had a DOA Asus Strix B350f first time around, and I can't afford any more downtime on my rig until I upgrade my laptop to something which can take the workload while I upgrade my desktop. So I settle for stability for now, with all the compromises associated.

Zen2 next year? I'm just going all in on a good motherboard from the start.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #401 on: 27-June-18, 13:47:22 »

So i guess afterall i should avoid 1.G and just stay on my 1.C cause this is what works for me.
Anybody else tested the last 1.G and share opinion?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #402 on: 16-July-18, 13:25:55 »

I just wanted to report my success with the latest stable 1C0 BIOS.

So I have the same RAM kit most people here have (Corsair LPX 3200) and couldn't get it to run at 3200 or even 2933 up until today. I reset BIOS to default, flashed the new BIOS, and then made some minor changes.

1. Disable PSP and reduce POST retries to 2 instead of 5
2. Set XMP Profile 2
3. Set Game Mode On
4. Reduce CPU voltage to 1.3volts (I didn't change the NB voltage, it's at about 1.15v right now)

that's it.. everything else is working perfectly. I haven't done any stress testing yet but I will later today.





Are you just using an updated MSI BIOS? Or one that was modified by someone else?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #403 on: 16-July-18, 14:15:41 »

Are you just using an updated MSI BIOS? Or one that was modified by someone else?
I'm actually just using official BIOS 1G0 with the same config I posted before.. Haven't had any issues except for Evil Within 2 crashing a bit... but I don't know if it's related or not. Sometimes it'll crash 3x per night and sometimes I can play 4-6 hours without any crashes.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #404 on: 16-July-18, 14:53:42 »

I'm actually just using official BIOS 1G0 with the same config I posted before.. Haven't had any issues except for Evil Within 2 crashing a bit... but I don't know if it's related or not. Sometimes it'll crash 3x per night and sometimes I can play 4-6 hours without any crashes.
That's excellent! I'm definitely going with AMD for my next build!
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #405 on: 21-July-18, 23:53:10 »

A competitor has released BIOS for PinnaclePi AGESA 1.0.0.4

Has anyone seen a BETA or final release for the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon board?
Or for that matter any AGESA 1.0.0.4 for any MSI X370 or X470 board?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #406 on: 22-July-18, 00:34:10 »

This is a real joke now,

Last bios that WORKED correctly was C
there have been 3 official releases after C and ALL OF THEM have been broken.. it's laughable.

C bios allows for Cool N Quiet + Custom vcore and allows overclocking and voltage drop in idle state, it is also much faster ram speed etc

I really do regret my decision to go with this opposed to a board from ASRock.... live and learn.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #407 on: 22-July-18, 09:51:27 »

This is a real joke now,

Last bios that WORKED correctly was C
there have been 3 official releases after C and ALL OF THEM have been broken.. it's laughable.

C bios allows for Cool N Quiet + Custom vcore and allows overclocking and voltage drop in idle state, it is also much faster ram speed etc

I really do regret my decision to go with this opposed to a board from ASRock.... live and learn.

The best I can suggest is to let them know. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<

I won't deny that there's issues. Although I'm not certain it's all related to just MSI.....
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #408 on: 23-July-18, 06:57:29 »

I have new 1.0.0.4 Pinnacle Ridge bios from MSI. They sent it to me in a private message for testing my new RAM memory because I have some issues. If anyone want I can upload it
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #409 on: 23-July-18, 10:35:12 »

Sure, upload it I'll give it a shot. Is it E7A32AMS.1H3? That's what they were talking about on forum-de
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #411 on: 23-July-18, 14:43:14 »

Looks like it really is the beta bios 1H3 you can also get in the german board. For anyone interested, let me copy the patchnotes from there:
Fix Dram OC failed after clear CMOS.
Fix UEFI Built-in Shell can't use.
Fix POST Beep can change when enter user mode.
Fix Pause key will miss some key.
Modify some BIOS setup menu string and rule.
Fix UEFI Lan option rom loss issue.
Support NCT6797D.
Fix Ezinfo memory string(DIMM1~4 -> DIMMAX/BX).
Fix WHQL HDMI audio fail issue.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #412 on: 23-July-18, 15:10:25 »

I'm testing it at the moment and AIDA64 does confirm it's AGESA 1.0.0.4. There is also a new option in the bios at ACPI Settings called CPU Over Temperature Alert which is by default set to Auto. Other options are Enabled and Disabled. But I'm not sure what this alert will be and at which temperature it's activated.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #413 on: 23-July-18, 16:01:31 »

Looks like it really is the beta bios 1H3 you can also get in the german board. For anyone interested, let me copy the patchnotes from there:
Fix Dram OC failed after clear CMOS.
Fix UEFI Built-in Shell can't use.
Fix POST Beep can change when enter user mode.
Fix Pause key will miss some key.
Modify some BIOS setup menu string and rule.
Fix UEFI Lan option rom loss issue.
Support NCT6797D.
Fix Ezinfo memory string(DIMM1~4 -> DIMMAX/BX).
Fix WHQL HDMI audio fail issue.
Thank you for informations. Nothing new about improved memory support or memory overclocking. Xpower Titanium X370 got the same update to 1.0.0.4 which also improve memory compatibility and overclocking. I hope stable version will be released soon
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #414 on: 23-July-18, 16:27:52 »

My test beta bios 1H3 :bonk:
It does not show any change bios 1G0

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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #415 on: 24-July-18, 09:29:56 »

I'm not sure if it's only imagination but I think my CPU overclock became stable at a lower voltage compared to 1G0, even though it's the hottest time of the whole year at the moment.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #416 on: 24-July-18, 21:23:12 »

Admins:

Can you share the BETA BIOS mentioned in this thread?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #417 on: 25-July-18, 04:06:51 »

An Admin shared it in the german version of this thread:
https://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?topic=113226.240
But you have to be registered there to see the download link.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #418 on: 25-July-18, 06:21:11 »

I have a beta bios installed. Can I update to a stable Bios when it becomes available?
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« Reply #419 on: 25-July-18, 10:51:08 »

Can I update to a stable Bios when it becomes available?
If you wish to do so, of course.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #420 on: 25-July-18, 20:04:25 »

If you wish to do so, of course.
Using M-Flash without custom forum tools?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #421 on: 25-July-18, 23:14:08 »

Using M-Flash without custom forum tools?

M-Flash will work fine for upgrading the BIOS. Just reset to defaults, save, and restart prior to doing the update. Just to be on the safe side.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #422 on: 26-July-18, 13:05:37 »

Hello,

I have installed the H3 beta bios.
I had a lot of issues with G bios (black screen @ boot >> CMOS compulsory, instability in windows...)

For the moment no issue, no bsod no blackscreen. Fingers crossed :)

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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #423 on: 05-August-18, 04:16:40 »

Hi,

After one week with H3 bios, same problems are back... Black screen @restart, clear cmos needed...
Rollback to 1F bios.

I think new bios can't handle properly new ryzen. MSI support don't care (useless answer to my ticket) so it's time to buy a new motherboard (but not an MSI one of course...)

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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #424 on: 08-August-18, 00:17:03 »

Official 7A32v1H is out!

Description
- Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.4C
- Improve memory compatibility.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #425 on: 08-August-18, 11:57:41 »

Hi,

Same issue as H3 beta bios for me.
After the first restart of windows, black screen, CMOS again...
I have searched for 2 hours if an option in the BIOS was the cause.

During this research I had others problems:
- Freeze of the bios after clicking on Save and Exit
- Black screen on cold boot
- Freeze during post with power on button which doesn't respond. Off/on on power supply needed.

I'm tired about theses issues whose start with the 1G0 bios (with 1F0 bios I have NO issue). 
I have ordered an asus crosshair vii x470 this afternoon...

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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #426 on: 10-August-18, 23:32:27 »

BIOS G and now BIOS H have both given the system below a stable OC of 3.8 and the listed RAM runs at 3333 stable.
Nothing I can think of improves the RAM speed over 3333
More core voltage and more SoC voltage will allow the CPU OC as high as 3.95, but temps are higher and fan noise is louder.

Really satisfied with this build. Reliable and fun to game on.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #427 on: 10-August-18, 23:35:43 »

One curious note, but I need other user comments.

When I am in this new H BIOS and I am ready to "save and exit", F10 key does nothing.

Correct me if I am wrong;  wasn't F10 save and exit on other BIOS's?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #428 on: 11-August-18, 07:40:47 »

Yes F10 was Save&Exit.
Clear CMOS, maybe reflash same BIOS version. If that hotkey isn't working, report it to MSI: >>How to contact MSI.<<
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #429 on: 24-August-18, 02:22:58 »

I updated to 1H bios from very OOOOOLD 19 bios.
I'm with 1700@3,8ghz and 2x8gb GSKILL AEGIS 3000 (Hynix M-dye).
With the 19 bios had seldomly a fake boot, and the Ram stuck ad 2933 with "memory try it" profile. No way to use A-XMP profiles (2800 and 2933 for my ram modules). Also I had to play with termination impedance as well to reach the 2933 speed.
I refused to update to 1C bios becauseof the issue on the manual voltage, set to a minimum of 1,3v.
I refused to update to 1E and 1F bioses, because of the issue of the GREAT memory bandwidth reduction while overclocked through bios multiplier setting.
I waited before updating to 1G because some users here experimented problems...
Then I decided to switch to 1H, because in an Italian forum that I follow another user felt satisfied with this bios.

I must confirm:
* A-Xmp 2933 have booted from the first time, rock solid. All other memory settings = Auto.
* No bandwidth issues (45gb/s at 2933mhz)
* Trying to raise the memory speed manually, letting A-Xmp 2933 setting and then increasing frequency: at the moment I'm stress testing 3133. The timings were slightly increased automatically (except the 3 primary timings).

What I must say? Very satisfied.
I'll keep you updated about memory speed improvements.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #430 on: 31-August-18, 23:57:22 »

I updated to 1H bios from very OOOOOLD 19 bios.
I'm with 1700@3,8ghz and 2x8gb GSKILL AEGIS 3000 (Hynix M-dye).
With the 19 bios had seldomly a fake boot, and the Ram stuck ad 2933 with "memory try it" profile. No way to use A-XMP profiles (2800 and 2933 for my ram modules). Also I had to play with termination impedance as well to reach the 2933 speed.
I refused to update to 1C bios becauseof the issue on the manual voltage, set to a minimum of 1,3v.
I refused to update to 1E and 1F bioses, because of the issue of the GREAT memory bandwidth reduction while overclocked through bios multiplier setting.
I waited before updating to 1G because some users here experimented problems...
Then I decided to switch to 1H, because in an Italian forum that I follow another user felt satisfied with this bios.

I must confirm:
* A-Xmp 2933 have booted from the first time, rock solid. All other memory settings = Auto.
* No bandwidth issues (45gb/s at 2933mhz)
* Trying to raise the memory speed manually, letting A-Xmp 2933 setting and then increasing frequency: at the moment I'm stress testing 3133. The timings were slightly increased automatically (except the 3 primary timings).

What I must say? Very satisfied.
I'll keep you updated about memory speed improvements.


My question is important about H bios - can anyone confirm if you turn on AMD Cool N Quiet , does the VCORE & the CPU freqency lower whilst the machine is idle?
FOR example my vore jumps up to 1.38v @ 3.9ghz during cpu usage, then when Idle my vcore drops to 0.6 @ 1.8ghz ... does H support this???? this is a major issue with all bios after "C"
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #431 on: 01-September-18, 17:28:54 »


My question is important about H bios - can anyone confirm if you turn on AMD Cool N Quiet , does the VCORE & the CPU freqency lower whilst the machine is idle?
FOR example my vore jumps up to 1.38v @ 3.9ghz during cpu usage, then when Idle my vcore drops to 0.6 @ 1.8ghz ... does H support this???? this is a major issue with all bios after "C"

CNQ works only with frequency. Voltage stay fixed at maximum.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #432 on: 07-September-18, 16:26:35 »

for a 1st gen Ryzen owner:

can someone please tell me what the point of updating the bios is after "C" bios??? all bios after 1.9 & "C" are all utter crap on this board.
For what reason would anyone update from here??? I don't understand.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #433 on: 07-September-18, 19:18:55 »

If voltage is set to auto, cool 'n' quiet will now down volt when idle with bios H.
I have set voltage manually to get a stable value, then reverted to auto and the BIOS remembers the last manual voltage previously set. At this point enable CnQ and it will down clock and down volt. This is the first BIOS I've managed to get to work in this way. H is the best so far in my opinion.
It's essentially working like offset voltage would.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #434 on: 07-September-18, 19:22:41 »

CNQ works only with frequency. Voltage stay fixed at maximum.

If OC voltage is set to auto, cool 'n' quiet will now down volt when idle with bios H.
I have set voltage manually to get a stable value (1.312v @ 3.7Ghz), then reverted to auto and the BIOS remembers the last manual voltage previously set (1.312v). At this point enable CnQ and it will down clock and down volt at idle or low CPU usage. This is the first BIOS I've managed to get to work in this way. H is the best so far in my opinion.
It's essentially working like offset voltage would.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #435 on: 07-September-18, 19:26:53 »

With BIOS H the Corsair RAM in my signature line is able to exceed XMP2 3200 and run at 3333MHz with the same 1.35 volts and same 16-18-18-18-36 timings.
With BIOS H the Ryzen 1600 is able to run at the same 3.875GHz speed, but with less voltage and all other setting returned to auto. Temperatures are done 1 or 2 degrees. I think that is from the lower CPU voltage.
With each BIOS since 17, I have seen improvements. 19 was good. For my hardware, H is the best, so far.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #436 on: 13-September-18, 06:39:53 »

on another subject with X370 carbon - why does this board have to use the gaming app for RGB control when the newer boards get full access to the mystic software? it's like RGB was poorly implemented on the x370 carbon pro .... cant control speed of the rainbow and other effects in the msi gaming app, such a simple thing like speed control is missing, makes you wonder.?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #437 on: 13-November-18, 12:53:26 »

No new BETA's right?
Curious though. Just a couple days back, the US MSI support page for this board offered the 1J0 BIOS update. I downloaded and installed with no issues. But a look today shows the 1J0 has been removed. Is there any background info on this AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS I have installed?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #438 on: 13-November-18, 13:40:00 »

Well new official BIOS was released, so don't expect a BETA next day or two..
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #439 on: 14-November-18, 16:29:53 »

Well new official BIOS was released, so don't expect a BETA next day or two..
Are you talking about 1J0? That was released and then removed I think because some Raven Ridge users had installed it without installing the required prior updates..
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #440 on: 12-January-19, 13:20:24 »

Anyone tried the latest 1K bios? On the German forum a couple users were reporting bugs so a mod said this:

The E7A32AMS.1K has been BETA status since November. Stay with the final J

seems kind of strange...
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #441 on: 12-January-19, 18:13:18 »

I have been running the K BIOS for about a week. OC on CPU the same using same settings as J BIOS. OC on RAM still excellent at 3466 out of the 3200 rated RAM in my signature. No issues so far.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #442 on: 12-January-19, 19:26:27 »

Thanks for the field report mik :agrees:
I think I'm gonna pick up a 3rd gen ryzen when they come out, and I'll probably grab a new board to go with it.
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #443 on: 16-January-19, 00:05:54 »

I'm still running bios "I" and I've found it to be super solid and no issues.
Any reason I  should move to the J bios OR the K bios?
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Re: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios
« Reply #444 on: 16-January-19, 08:59:36 »

In my opinion, there is no performance improvement from I to K.
There are BIOS behavior changes and some menu changes. I always update because I do not have faith in the limited version notes. Always hopeful that improvements are made along side the compatibility updates. Maybe fixes to old problems. Maybe my sensors and benchmark software would report more accurate temperatures. Maybe it improves my fans curve setting range.
If you have no desire to tweak your CPU OC or RAM settings AND all your hardware is working well, THEN I might never touch the BIOS.
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EVGA AOI CLC120
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EVGA PSU 750G3
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WD SSD 512GB M.2 PCIe Gen3 x4 Black (2017)
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