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B350 Gaming Plus issue
« on: 13-March-18, 14:08:41 »

åBasically had to replace my old board due to it dying B350M-PRO-VDH (don't know how) moved everything across, all went well then booting:
power on
CPU + DRAM Flash ON then OFF then back on and nothing.

Take RAM out I get system beeps.

I've reseated the CPU
done Numerous bios clears
Changed the GPU
Done a breadboard
Done the whole put a jumper on pins, boot it and remove it
Moved the ram around, also tested a friends generic ram
Sworn
Drawn blood (fan accident)

specs below


Board: B350 Gaming Plus
BIOS: Factory I think.
VGA:   R9 280 3G also a HD 5450 (for testing)
PSU:  Corsair 750
CPU:  1700x
MEM: 16GB vengeance LPX --- CMK16GX4M4A2400C14

oh I've also removed everything except the keyboard
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« Reply #1 on: 13-March-18, 14:14:43 »

Also a sidenote, there's no bent pins on the 1700x checked, rechecked, used a magnifying glass to check.
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« Reply #2 on: 13-March-18, 21:50:02 »

CPU + DRAM Flash ON then OFF then back on and nothing.
Take RAM out I get system beeps.
Ez Debug LED behavior sounds like a RAM problem. I know you have tried other but I believe that it is RAM.

Please, do that:
- get the mobo out of case and place it on a non-conductive surface (wooden..)
- do a minimal configuration: CPU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + GPU + PSU + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else
- clear CMOS
- power on
Normally you would see successively: Ez Debug LED for CPU lights on then off, same for RAM, same for VGA, for BOOT lights on and remains on (because you have not a disk with OS). Is it the case?
1/ If not, retry with each of the 3 others RAM stick in DIMMA2. If problem remains, try with only 1 RAM stick successively in each DIMM slots.
2/ If yes, try after adding a second stick in DIMMB2. If that works, add another in DIMMA1. If that works, add last one in DIMMB1.
Good luck,
:-)
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« Reply #3 on: 16-March-18, 08:48:19 »

Ez Debug LED behavior sounds like a RAM problem. I know you have tried other but I believe that it is RAM.

Please, do that:
- get the mobo out of case and place it on a non-conductive surface (wooden..)
- do a minimal configuration: CPU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + GPU + PSU + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else
- clear CMOS
- power on
Normally you would see successively: Ez Debug LED for CPU lights on then off, same for RAM, same for VGA, for BOOT lights on and remains on (because you have not a disk with OS). Is it the case?
1/ If not, retry with each of the 3 others RAM stick in DIMMA2. If problem remains, try with only 1 RAM stick successively in each DIMM slots.
2/ If yes, try after adding a second stick in DIMMB2. If that works, add another in DIMMA1. If that works, add last one in DIMMB1.
Good luck,
:-)
RBL




Yeah It's literally just the motherboard at the moment with the cooler, none of the other LED's come on, so it goes
>CPU
>RAM
>CPU
>RAM
>LED's off

I'll give it another shot with it outside the case.
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« Reply #4 on: 16-March-18, 12:25:19 »

So an update:

Bread boarding it again doesn't work (same result)

now the interesting bit, powered on the old motherboard (without cpu to see if it still works) and it does...

inserted the cpu onto the old board, no power, remove the cpu, powers....


sooo CPU issue???
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« Reply #5 on: 16-March-18, 13:31:55 »

Basically had to replace my old board due to it dying B350M-PRO-VDH (don't know how) moved everything across, all went well then booting:
power on
CPU + DRAM Flash ON then OFF then back on and nothing.

In many cases, when a component dies be prepared for http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0233469/
:lol_anim:
So you need to find a way to test all the components (starting with CPU, RAM and PSU)
good luck
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« Reply #6 on: 16-March-18, 14:07:08 »

Yeah, I'll do an RMA for the CPU, got a spare pc for now.

Thanks for trying to help me guys!
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« Reply #7 on: 16-March-18, 14:12:25 »

In many cases, when a component dies be prepared for http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0233469/
:lol_anim:
So you need to find a way to test all the components (starting with CPU, RAM and PSU)
good luck


The Ram I used were spares from friends who also had DDR4 -- No luck here

PSU Was from a spare machine I own, with enough juice to power the board + gpu

Only thing unable to test was the CPU

So I guess RIP for that
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« Reply #8 on: 16-April-18, 12:26:37 »

Bringing this thread back to life with an update

So purchased a 9500e apu to see if the board is foobard or if I do indeed need to RMA my 1700x and I'm STILL having the same issue.

1 Led (top one)

hdmi plugged in

No keyboard
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« Reply #9 on: 16-April-18, 13:04:21 »

Hello,
Please, do that:
- keep the mobo out of case (on a non-conductive surface)
- do a minimal configuration: A6-9500E APU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + GPU (not because your BristolRidge CPU has built'in video) + PSU (CPU and ATX power connected) + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else (you monitor beeing connected to the mobo's back panel)
- clear CMOS
- power on
What each EZ Debug LEDs is doing?
Good luck,
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« Reply #10 on: 16-April-18, 13:20:34 »

Hello,
Please, do that:
- keep the mobo out of case (on a non-conductive surface)
- do a minimal configuration: A6-9500E APU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + GPU (not because your BristolRidge CPU has built'in video) + PSU (CPU and ATX power connected) + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else (you monitor beeing connected to the mobo's back panel)
- clear CMOS
- power on
What each EZ Debug LEDs is doing?
Good luck,
:hat tip:
This time round, just the first LED and no further....
Put the 1700x in for the billionth time and it does the whole rotating LED dance, then stops.
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« Reply #11 on: 16-April-18, 13:32:35 »

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This time round, just the first LED and no further....
That is CPU EZ Debug LED (1rst) lights on then remains on?

Do not omit to clear CMOS if you have not already done. Retry with each RAM stick of your CMK16GX4M4A2400C14 kit in DIMMA2. If RAM EZ Debug LED (2nd) does not light on (then off) for any of the 4 previous tests, try with 1 stick and plug it in each DIMM slot.
Good luck,
:hat tip:
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« Reply #12 on: 16-April-18, 13:50:59 »

That is CPU EZ Debug LED (1rst) lights on then remains on?

Do not omit to clear CMOS if you have not already done. Retry with each RAM stick of your CMK16GX4M4A2400C14 kit in DIMMA2. If RAM EZ Debug LED (2nd) does not light on (then off) for any of the 4 previous tests, try with 1 stick and plug it in each DIMM slot.
Good luck,
:hat tip:
Yeah the bios is cleared, still sweet fudge all :-/

Done all the previous tests I did for the 1700x


Could it be ram compatibility issue due to the likelihood the board is running the 1st bios?
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« Reply #13 on: 16-April-18, 14:39:14 »

Could it be ram compatibility issue due to the likelihood the board is running the 1st bios?
No, because this RAM model has been successfully tested by MSI with the first bios version:

 (support page copy)
Remove the RAM stick from the minimal configuration, power on. Have you, CPU EZ Debug LED (1rst) lights on then off, then RAM EZ Debug LED (2nd) lights on and remains on?
:think:
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« Reply #14 on: 16-April-18, 15:44:06 »

No, because this RAM model has been successfully tested by MSI with the first bios version:
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
 (support page copy)
Remove the RAM stick from the minimal configuration, power on. Have you, CPU EZ Debug LED (1rst) lights on then off, then RAM EZ Debug LED (2nd) lights on and remains on?
:think:
With BOTH cpu's + no ram == beeps (Got my pc spkr in there)

So we continue....
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« Reply #15 on: 16-April-18, 15:52:18 »

With BOTH cpu's + no ram == beeps (Got my pc spkr in there)
And what do EZ Debug LEDs?
:hat tip:
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« Reply #16 on: 16-April-18, 16:01:42 »

And what do EZ Debug LEDs?
:hat tip:
Just the 1 Led (Top most one)
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« Reply #17 on: 16-April-18, 16:02:40 »

So

APU = 1 LED

1700X = 2 LED on/off/on/off
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« Reply #18 on: 16-April-18, 16:23:54 »

Also No keyboard lights
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« Reply #19 on: 16-April-18, 21:32:47 »

:scratchchin: 2 CPU broken would be very surprising... same with 4 RAM sticks... :scratchchin:
My conclusion is that mobo has problem either broken hardware or damaged bios.

I pray that it is the last case because you can reload bios file by doing that:
- Keep the minimal configuration: A6-9500E APU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + PSU (CPU and ATX power connected) + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else (monitor beeing connected to the mobo's back panel)
- Download the last bios version >>VM.90<<.
- Extract and copy the file "E7A34AMS.M90" at the root directory of a FAT32 flash drive (nothing else in the drive) with 16GB maximum.
- Power off pc.
- Verify that all drives (HDD, SSD, M.2, DVD, USB...) are disconnected from the mobo.
- Plug your flash drive into a USB2.0 rear port (one of the 2 below the PS/2 port).
- Power on pc.
- If nothing display (wait 5mn), try with the other USB2.0 port.
- If you see something like "WARNING! System BIOS is damaged...", it is a good news (yes yes!).
- Select the option "Select one file to update BIOS" option (or "Select one file to update BIOS and ME" if it is available).
- Select the flash drive then the file "E7A34AMS.M90".
- Bios flash should then start and you must wait its end.
Good luck,
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« Reply #20 on: 18-April-18, 01:28:29 »

:scratchchin: 2 CPU broken would be very surprising... same with 4 RAM sticks... :scratchchin:
My conclusion is that mobo has problem either broken hardware or damaged bios.

I pray that it is the last case because you can reload bios file by doing that:
- Keep the minimal configuration: A6-9500E APU + CPU-Cooler + only 1 RAM stick in DIMMA2 + PSU (CPU and ATX power connected) + Keyboad/Mouse, nothing else (monitor beeing connected to the mobo's back panel)
- Download the last bios version >>VM.90<<.
- Extract and copy the file "E7A34AMS.M90" at the root directory of a FAT32 flash drive (nothing else in the drive) with 16GB maximum.
- Power off pc.
- Verify that all drives (HDD, SSD, M.2, DVD, USB...) are disconnected from the mobo.
- Plug your flash drive into a USB2.0 rear port (one of the 2 below the PS/2 port).
- Power on pc.
- If nothing display (wait 5mn), try with the other USB2.0 port.
- If you see something like "WARNING! System BIOS is damaged...", it is a good news (yes yes!).
- Select the option "Select one file to update BIOS" option (or "Select one file to update BIOS and ME" if it is available).
- Select the flash drive then the file "E7A34AMS.M90".
- Bios flash should then start and you must wait its end.
Good luck,


Going to reply to this just in case someone stumbles over this in the future:

Done everything above and didn't work

Got a new board (Another Pro-vdh) and it worked 100% so future people, just go through all this, if it doesn't work almost likely the board.

Thanks for the help rbleroy91 :)
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« Reply #21 on: 18-April-18, 04:20:35 »

You are welcome,
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