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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #50 on: 08-October-18, 08:41:38 »

As far as publicly released beta bios's go, I believe the linked 125 in this thread is the latest.

No official changelog outside of this release hopefully addressing wake from sleep issues. I will say though that my 4 x 8 GB 3200 has been running fine with my 2950x. However wake from sleep issue is back with Windows 1809.
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« Reply #51 on: 08-October-18, 11:23:13 »

As far as publicly released beta bios's go, I believe the linked 125 in this thread is the latest.

No official changelog outside of this release hopefully addressing wake from sleep issues. I will say though that my 4 x 8 GB 3200 has been running fine with my 2950x. However wake from sleep issue is back with Windows 1809.
I asked svet last Friday if there were newer beta bios files available and he mentioned that 1.25 is the latest he sees. There were some changes related to how memory is handled in 1.25 vs 1.24 as with the latest I can't post with all my memory (8x8GB). I noticed also that in 1.24 there physical location of RAIDXpert is slightly lower in the list than it is in all other bios builds. Also since 1.20 precision boost overdrive setting is present in the settings as it seems to have been missing prior (in 1.1). Those are some of the changes that I have seen as I tested each version.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #52 on: 13-October-18, 06:24:46 »

With 1.25 bios system is pretty stable and starts fine, but it goes to the loop  reboot if i put all 8 memory slot, with 7 just fine.
p.s. sry for my bad english
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« Reply #53 on: 13-October-18, 17:25:57 »

With 1.25 bios system is pretty stable and starts fine, but it goes to the loop  reboot if i put all 8 memory slot, with 7 just fine.
p.s. sry for my bad english
Same here :)
Anything prior to 125 I can do 8 sticks no issues.
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« Reply #54 on: 14-October-18, 09:08:04 »

Guys I need a favour I'm coming from a gigabyte extreme with 2950x but I'm having issues with all my high end USB connected devices like a motion simulator racing chair and fanatec wheels etc (15 usb dev'S) bandwidth so if somebody could kindly use USB Device Tree Viewer 3.2.2 Utility and take a snipping tool image as I need to see how the USB host controllers add up on this board before I move to it please?
With the gigabyte even the addon pci-e usb 2.0 & 3.0 cards get overload by any usb inserted perif's, could this be a AMD chipset usb issue as I've not got an Intel board available at the moment to test the cards in?
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Guys I need a favour I'm coming from a gigabyte extreme with 2950x but I'm having issues with all my high end USB connected devices like a motion simulator racing chair and fanatec wheels etc (15 usb dev'S) bandwidth so if somebody could kindly use USB Device Tree Viewer 3.2.2 Utility and take a snipping tool image as I need to see how the USB host controllers add up on this board before I move to it please?
With the gigabyte even the addon pci-e usb 2.0 & 3.0 cards get overload by any usb inserted perif's, could this be a AMD chipset usb issue as I've not got an Intel board available at the moment to test the cards in?
Hope this helps buddy:

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Guys I need a favour I'm coming from a gigabyte extreme with 2950x but I'm having issues with all my high end USB connected devices like a motion simulator racing chair and fanatec wheels etc (15 usb dev'S) bandwidth so if somebody could kindly use USB Device Tree Viewer 3.2.2 Utility and take a snipping tool image as I need to see how the USB host controllers add up on this board before I move to it please?
With the gigabyte even the addon pci-e usb 2.0 & 3.0 cards get overload by any usb inserted perif's, could this be a AMD chipset usb issue as I've not got an Intel board available at the moment to test the cards in?
Here you go as well:
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« Reply #57 on: 22-October-18, 04:08:52 »

Thank, thats just what i need. Whats the nvidia host controller usb card make & model please?
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« Reply #58 on: 22-October-18, 04:10:41 »

Thanks
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FYI, new beta BIOS... 1.27. Improves memory compatibility.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=310330.0
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #60 on: 22-October-18, 21:03:43 »

2080ti , has a USB type C port.
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« Reply #61 on: 23-October-18, 08:47:41 »

Just like to ask a few questions before I purchased this, #1 can you confirm that this board has no issues with Intel teaming on the NICs? #2 what is the situation with boot times on the later stable 1.25 or 1.27 latest BIOS? #3 anybody in the UK bought from newegg UK with shipping coming from the USA and they're only been a 15 day returns replacement policy?
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Just like to ask a few questions before I purchased this, #1 can you confirm that this board has no issues with Intel teaming on the NICs? #2 what is the situation with boot times on the later stable 1.25 or 1.27 latest BIOS? #3 anybody in the UK bought from newegg UK with shipping coming from the USA and they're only been a 15 day returns replacement policy?
I haven't checked teaming but 1.27 is a whole lot more stable than 1.25. Looks like it has a newer Agesa.
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Just like to ask a few questions before I purchased this, #1 can you confirm that this board has no issues with Intel teaming on the NICs? #2 what is the situation with boot times on the later stable 1.25 or 1.27 latest BIOS? #3 anybody in the UK bought from newegg UK with shipping coming from the USA and they're only been a 15 day returns replacement policy?
Not sure, you might have better luck starting your own thread to ask the more general questions. Something like a "Before I buy" type thread. I don't use teaming and the boot times have been, what I would call, fine for me on either bios with 4 x 8 GB and a 2950x.
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« Reply #64 on: 24-October-18, 13:59:26 »

I haven't checked teaming but 1.27 is a whole lot more stable than 1.25. Looks like it has a newer Agesa

Thankz
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« Reply #65 on: 24-October-18, 14:01:18 »

Not sure, you might have better luck starting your own thread to ask the more general questions. Something like a "Before I buy" type thread. I don't use teaming and the boot times have been, what I would call, fine for me on either bios with 4 x 8 GB and a 2950x.

point taken & thankz
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« Reply #66 on: 26-October-18, 07:38:06 »

It appears the Smart Fan Curve lock has been removed in the 127 BIOS. Thank you VERY MUCH!
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« Reply #67 on: 29-October-18, 13:42:57 »

Ryzer Master stopped launching with 127 and latest Ryzen Master version. Anyone else experienced that?

Getting this: "Ryzen Master Driver not installed properly"

EDIT: My bad. Worked when installed as admin.
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« Reply #68 on: 30-October-18, 18:03:13 »

@Svet

I am still having wake from sleep issues. Ever since windows 1809, even with BIOS 127 wake from sleep gets stuck in code A5.
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« Reply #69 on: 30-October-18, 18:23:08 »

cybrnook, I am surprised you are still running 1809.  MS has not re-released it yet.  You need to be careful how to interpret A5.  The code A5 shows up randomly after boot and means nothing as well as I can understand.  MS is maintaining 1803 at this time.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #70 on: 30-October-18, 20:23:42 »

I know buddy :-) my pc was updated when M$ first released it through windows update. Regardless if they pulled it, it's still already out in the wild for myself and many users around the world, can't put that cat back in the bag. I was not affected by the one drive deleted files issue, and M$ has since patched that individually already anyways. So yes, I am on 1809, and am not too excited to have to format and install 1803 only to have to update again to 1809 when M$ releases, which should be soon. October is almost over for them to roll out the October update :-)
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« Reply #71 on: 31-October-18, 08:18:40 »

cybrnook, I have pulled 1809.  At the time I was having major problems installing (turned out ANY) W10 on my two (RAID0 and RAID10) RAID configuration (Would NOT reboot from HDD or SSD or RAID).  I was finally (three days) able to install from a USB stick.  From your respect I would wonder if Support was inclined to work on an 1809 problem with MS in the ditch.  Just checked Media Creation Tool and it is still dispensing 1803.  I have an open Support Request on dual RAIDs.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #72 on: 02-November-18, 15:27:52 »

cybrnook, AMD has release RAID drivers DriverVer=09/21/2018,9.2.0.00087.  I still have testing to do but so far they have corrected Restart, Sleep and Wake.  Be sure you install it on all RAIDs you may have.  I ended up with it installed on about half my SSDs and it was a little sweaty for a while.  Please let me know it they help.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #73 on: 03-November-18, 05:42:07 »

cybrnook, AMD has release RAID drivers DriverVer=09/21/2018,9.2.0.00087.  I still have testing to do but so far they have corrected Restart, Sleep and Wake.  Be sure you install it on all RAIDs you may have.  I ended up with it installed on about half my SSDs and it was a little sweaty for a while.  Please let me know it they help.  Enjoy, John.
It looks like some of the driver is also baked in the BIOS itself as well. When you go to the RAIDXpert menu you can see that in there. I am waiting for MSI to release a new BIOS with the updated driver.
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« Reply #74 on: 03-November-18, 10:01:28 »

bogdi1988, in general drivers do not come in UEFI releases.  There is a new RAIDXpert2 (w10) released with AMD RAIDXpert2 Driver Version: 9.2.0-00087.  It can be DLed with the latest chip set drivers.  I suggest you update the chip set and you should get what you need.  All is going well here.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #75 on: 03-November-18, 13:54:26 »

bogdi1988, in general drivers do not come in UEFI releases.  There is a new RAIDXpert2 (w10) released with AMD RAIDXpert2 Driver Version: 9.2.0-00087.  It can be DLed with the latest chip set drivers.  I suggest you update the chip set and you should get what you need.  All is going well here.  Enjoy, John.
Take a look in your BIOS and you'll see a reference to the version of the RAIDXpert firmware and that is the older build.
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« Reply #76 on: 03-November-18, 15:55:25 »

Thanks, bogdi1988.  I see that but do not know what it means.  I have been running the new RAID drivers for a couple of days and all is good.  I am also running Beta UEFI E7B92AMS.127.  I have never heard of a requirement that a new UEFI is required to run a new  RAID Driver.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #77 on: 03-November-18, 19:31:26 »

Absolutely BIOS/UEFI contains drivers. For example, here is the driver in the latest 129 BIOS:

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« Reply #78 on: 04-November-18, 10:01:01 »

OK, absolutely the UEFI must contain drivers.  I know that and do not think I said they didn't, certainly did not mean to say that.   I have never seen a case where a user had to correlate updating the driver in the UEFI with the one in Windows.  The MB vendors I have had release UEFI updates so seldom, and this is the first I have heard a user say they were going to wait.  It may be a very long wait.  The 9.2.0.00087 in W10 is like a miracle to me.  All my Shutdowns, Restarts, Sleeps and Boot to UEFI required a manual Reset.  With the 9.2.0.00087 update, NO MORE!  I must be taking a chance, but so far, so good.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #79 on: 05-November-18, 11:48:02 »

OK, absolutely the UEFI must contain drivers.  I know that and do not think I said they didn't, certainly did not mean to say that.   I have never seen a case where a user had to correlate updating the driver in the UEFI with the one in Windows.  The MB vendors I have had release UEFI updates so seldom, and this is the first I have heard a user say they were going to wait.  It may be a very long wait.  The 9.2.0.00087 in W10 is like a miracle to me.  All my Shutdowns, Restarts, Sleeps and Boot to UEFI required a manual Reset.  With the 9.2.0.00087 update, NO MORE!  I must be taking a chance, but so far, so good.  Enjoy, John.
I for one still have issues with shotdown, restart etc with the new driver...
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« Reply #80 on: 05-November-18, 13:27:19 »

bogdi1988, I am completely failure free but I almost ended up with only some of my drivers updated.  How did you update yours?  Here's my device manager:

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Please double click all the marked devices and check the driver.  If it is not 9.2.0.00087, then update it.  Please let me know what you find.  Good luck and enjoy, John.
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« Reply #81 on: 05-November-18, 23:53:34 »

bogdi1988, I am completely failure free but I almost ended up with only some of my drivers updated.  How did you update yours?  Here's my device manager:

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Please double click all the marked devices and check the driver.  If it is not 9.2.0.00087, then update it.  Please let me know what you find.  Good luck and enjoy, John.
Right click on each inf file and install. All devices have the latest version of the driver.  I checked 3x :D
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« Reply #82 on: 06-November-18, 09:44:06 »

bogdi1988, what version of W10 are you running?  I am running 1803.17134.345.  Enjoy,  John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #83 on: 06-November-18, 14:34:02 »

bogdi1988, I am in the middle of a W10 install and stuck.  I think you are correct and I am having a conflict between the old drivers (070) in the UEFI and the new drivers (087) I am using in Load Driver.  Should I go back to 070 completely  until this is resolved?  Is my pessimism justified - long wait?  I will e-mail AMD and MSI support.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #84 on: 06-November-18, 15:07:39 »

bogdi1988, I am in the middle of a W10 install and stuck.  I think you are correct and I am having a conflict between the old drivers (070) in the UEFI and the new drivers (087) I am using in Load Driver.  Should I go back to 070 completely  until this is resolved?  Is my pessimism justified - long wait?  I will e-mail AMD and MSI support.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
i was using 1809 and now running 19H1 early builds.
I would stay with 087 if possible.
AMD support is fairly worhtless and very slow. MSI is pretty much the same...
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #85 on: 06-November-18, 15:28:25 »

Thanks, bogdi1988.  I know a couple of good people at AMD and am still hopeful.  Thanks an enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #86 on: 06-November-18, 15:51:16 »

Thanks, bogdi1988.  I know a couple of good people at AMD and am still hopeful.  Thanks an enjoy, John.
BTW, I see you are using your MSI Xpander card... I highly recommend getting the ASUS one instead. It's technically the same thing, but it is in a 1x  PCIe wide slot instead of 2 and it is not as wide of a card so it does not stick out as much, especially if you want to do a vertical GPU, or if you have  a crazy case setup like I have (Corsair 1000D with 2 systems inside)
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #87 on: 06-November-18, 16:25:09 »

Thanks, bogdi1988, but I am quiet happy with the Xpander and do not care about the width.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #88 on: 06-November-18, 16:31:50 »

Thanks, bogdi1988, but I am quiet happy with the Xpander and do not care about the width.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
Just to double check, you have Xpander in PCIe1 and GPU in PCIe4?
Apparently the board is picky on that according to the manual.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #89 on: 06-November-18, 18:31:58 »

bogdi1988, mine is just the opposite.  Is that causing me problems?  Seems to have been fine so far.  Where is this written?  I was concerned about not seeing any real instructions.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #90 on: 07-November-18, 22:46:57 »

Hi folks, I'm building a new 2950x system with an X399 Creation and currently have the 127 beta bios. Does anyone have a link to the 129 beta version?
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #91 on: 08-November-18, 01:29:40 »

Hi folks, I'm building a new 2950x system with an X399 Creation and currently have the 127 beta bios. Does anyone have a link to the 129 beta version?
https://we.tl/t-t3anYRf71G
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #92 on: 08-November-18, 01:30:18 »

bogdi1988, mine is just the opposite.  Is that causing me problems?  Seems to have been fine so far.  Where is this written?  I was concerned about not seeing any real instructions.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
It was in the manual that specified GPU needs to go in PCIe4 if 2990WX. Page 36 talks about PCIe arrangement for multiple and single video cards.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #93 on: 08-November-18, 16:18:44 »

Thanks, bogdi1988.  I will exchange the two cards.  I have been using the User Guide (from box) and it says no such thing. Will let you hear how I make out.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #94 on: 09-November-18, 09:10:48 »

https://we.tl/t-t3anYRf71G


When I go to this link I get a "transfer deleted" message, does anyone have a working link to 129?
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #95 on: 09-November-18, 15:04:56 »

bogdi1988, I surrendered even installing on a RAID and put W10 on a HDD.  I need to gather my thoughts and get a new installation built that does not have the 9.3.0.0.87 injected into all my .wim files.  I will open a new thread when I have a fresh thought.  AMD has responded and will hopefully respond to my questions.  They did say that the MB Vendor is required to supple the drivers and I assume that means both the one for W10 and the one for the UEFI.  I may wait for both before I try RAID again.  Thanks for your help.  Enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #96 on: 09-November-18, 15:13:29 »

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qt9r3d7xhsdnu2o/E7B92AMS.129?dl=0

Link to .129 above for anyone else who needs it, all credit goes to flobelix for providing the new link :biggthumbsup:
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #97 on: 10-November-18, 07:45:09 »

Has anybody contacted MSI as to when and how their Windows 10 1809 drivers are going?

I would do it myself but my Meg creation isn't registered due to the fact that I'm going to exchange it for the same board from a different retailer any day now so I can't put a ticket in.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #98 on: 10-November-18, 09:30:59 »

optical10, I have not and will continue to use 1803 (patch 376) until MS releases 1809 and it has been updated a few times.  MS Media Creation Tool is DLing the 376 patch level of 1803 and it is stable.  Version 1809 is at patch level 55 and has not been updated in over a month.  I suggest users stay far away from it.  I tried it when it was first released and it had plenty of problems.  I suspect it has not been re-released because of many more problems.  What drivers are you looking for from MSI?  You should get all your AMD drivers from AMD DL site and other vendor drivers from them.  AMD released a new RAID driver (9.2.0.087) and I think MSI needs to release a new UEFI with commensurate support.  I am unable to do an install on RAID of W10 using the new AMD RAID drivers.  Enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #99 on: 10-November-18, 11:47:11 »

optical10, I have not and will continue to use 1803 (patch 376) until MS releases 1809 and it has been updated a few times.  MS Media Creation Tool is DLing the 376 patch level of 1803 and it is stable.  Version 1809 is at patch level 55 and has not been updated in over a month.  I suggest users stay far away from it.  I tried it when it was first released and it had plenty of problems.  I suspect it has not been re-released because of many more problems.  What drivers are you looking for from MSI?  You should get all your AMD drivers from AMD DL site and other vendor drivers from them.  AMD released a new RAID driver (9.2.0.087) and I think MSI needs to release a new UEFI with commensurate support.  I am unable to do an install on RAID of W10 using the new AMD RAID drivers.  Enjoy, John.
jhchris2, Okay good to know. I previously had a gigabyte motherboard with similar issues with 1809. It's mainly the AMD chipset and the Realtek audio drivers I want to get sorted. Also with me having an RTX 2080 I'm just getting ready for the ray tracing direct X functionality with in 1809 that I need certain titles so I wanted to see if MSI had a heads up on future release dates for 1809 Sam ahead of the curve. It's a shame that live update isn't up to scratch as it would make it a lot easier. 
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