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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #100 on: 11-November-18, 08:22:27 »

optical10, this is a user forum and most here do not work for or represent MSI, I do not.  I was not aware there was a new needed function in 1809.  I suggest you try contacting MS and MSI (know you cannot right now).  I think I am getting none of my drivers from MSI.  I suggest you stick with the individual vendors.  I think several posting in this thread including the OP are running 1809 - perhaps they will offer some advice.  BTW, the faint blue font you posted in is not readable.  I had to open a reply so I could read it.  Good luck and enjoy, John.

EDIT: Please see this thread.  I see lots of articles on the Internet about RTX and possibility of running a Beta on 1803.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #101 on: 14-November-18, 06:04:02 »

Looks like 1809 Windows 10 build is rereleased by Microsoft again as of yesterday, anybody pausing updates on their machine until MSI confirm compatibility?
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« Reply #102 on: 14-November-18, 10:18:03 »

Thanks, optical10, saw that last night.  Since I apply my updates offline (using DISM), I am trying to understand this.  Let me know if you have some advice.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #103 on: 15-November-18, 15:18:15 »

John, were you able to configure your RAID and get all reboot working etc?

I was finally able to get it working - reboot, shutdown, RAID, RAID for OS, etc.
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« Reply #104 on: 15-November-18, 15:35:07 »

Yes, bogdi1988. Like this: W10, 1803, driver 9.2.0.00087.  All works, Shutdown, Restart, Restart to UEFI and Sleep/Wake.  What I cannot do is an install of W10 with RAID enabled.  RAID did work until I tried an install, now no RAID.  I am waiting for MSI to release an UEFI with 9.2.0.00087 integrated.  Enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #105 on: 16-November-18, 17:01:14 »

Using v129, in combination with an 1803 ISO, I have been able to configure both NVME and SATA raid concurrently, and install to said NVME Raid volume no issues. The challenge was ensuring all of the appropriate drivers were loaded in the Windows Setup. It look me choosing multiple drivers to make the NVME volume functional.
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« Reply #106 on: 16-November-18, 19:15:29 »

Thanks, dcpower.  Can you be so kind as to tell us what drivers you used and where your system was installed.  Thanks an enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #107 on: 17-November-18, 02:04:06 »

John, just as the previous comment - 1803, 92087 drivers with full RAID. Copy contents of this on a USB drive, or same USB as your Windows installer: https://www2.ati.com/drivers/nvme_raid_windows_driver_9_2_0_87.zip
This is the 713kb file. Prior to installing, make sure you change AHCI to RAID in BIOS and that you are in Windows 10 mode. During install, where you select HDD, click load drivers. Then load in this order: bottom, raid, config. Once all 3 are loaded, you can re-format HDD as you want and install.
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« Reply #108 on: 17-November-18, 02:06:47 »

Once Windows loads, update all drivers. I recommend you get from MSI, and also latest from AMD - the full 300MB file. Then you can upgrade to 1809 and later. I am currently on Insider build 18282 without any issues.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #109 on: 17-November-18, 06:00:33 »

@jhchris2 sorry about the delay I was unable to find a way to do a quote is it just me or is this website broken?

I'm still debating whether to deploy as I got too many requirements that haven't confirmed 1809 compatibility like my motion simulator racing platform, Intel NIC teaming pro safe software release and MSI and other drivers that are currently noncommittal to compatibility.

Gigabyte was ahead in October with their 1809 drivers but now I've switched to MSI I must say I'm disappointed with the lack of information considering this was supposed to be an October release by Microsoft.
If enough of my issues are solved within the next month or so I might pull the trigger and rely on my Acronis backup and restore to reverse any unlivable issues but will wait and see. Other than that I think we're gonna have to rely on other users here who have pulled the trigger previously so I don't think I'll be much help to you unfortunately.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #110 on: 17-November-18, 19:46:27 »

optical10, this forum really stinks, telling me I am not signed on immediately after I sign on.  There is a quote icon sixth from the right at the top of the Reply dialog.  If you are talking about quoting from another post, I do not know.  I generally do not use drivers distributed by MB vendors unless they are the only drivers that work.  Otherwise I get my drivers from the part manufacturer like Intel for Wi-Fi and BlueTooth.  I am waiting for a UEFI containing the 9.2.0.087 RAID drivers, then I will move to 1809.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #111 on: 17-November-18, 19:55:48 »

bogdi1988, I generally do not use drivers distributed by MB vendors unless they are the only drivers that work.  Otherwise I get my drivers from the part manufacturer like Intel for Wi-Fi and BlueTooth.  My drivers are installed during W10 install or injected into the Install.wim and Boot.wim files.  I am curious why you install 1803 first, then upgrade to 1809.  I install 1809 directly.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #112 on: 19-November-18, 02:35:27 »

John,

These were the steps I followed and ran into no issues - after dealing with the dreadful no shutdown/restart bug for 2 months now.
I went with 1803 because that installer seems the most stable, plus I normally switch straight to Insider builds as soon as I install. 
Not sure whether injecting in the wim would affect the way the installer detects/installs devices and whether that would affect the way AMD Raid would work. Through this process I learned that AMD RAID is hella complex and finnicky and would rather follow AMD's steps to a T than try to deviate on my own.
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« Reply #113 on: 19-November-18, 10:32:43 »

Thanks, bogdi1988.  I am really hardheaded but have stopped injecting my RAID drivers.  I was able to get away with it on my ASRock board, but not MSI.  I still had to Load Driver to see the RAID drives but never added drivers to W10.  
I just updated to 1809 and I can no longer wake from Sleep.  Microsoft has changed the way Offline servicing is done with respect to updates and I need to understand that and get it working.  I do often fresh installs.  I also think my RAID problems are aggravated by my RAID0/RAID10 setup.  It worked great on my ASRock MB.  All my RAID drives are NVMe Samsung SSDs, so no SATA RAID at all and ASRock allows NVMe or SATA or Both.  MSI is RAID or not.  I do have SATA HDD for backup.  I have had RAID0/RAID0 running on my MSI MB and hope to again.  Enjoy, John.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #114 on: 22-November-18, 16:44:35 »

So it looks like we got a new BIOS released. v1.2.... Has a much older AGESA than the betas we have been testing or is it just me? 1.0.0.6 < 1.1.0.1A At least in my math book... so not sure how that's an update?
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« Reply #115 on: 22-November-18, 19:24:19 »

bogdi1988, it really contains AGESA!V9.SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2.  The .txt file is all wrong.  The UEFI is E7B92AMS.120.  It was posted as a Beta recently.  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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« Reply #116 on: 23-November-18, 09:06:01 »

Just keep in mind that the AGESA version isn't just a 'version' number....you need to know the architecture, since each architecture also has a version....

SummitPi, PinnaclePi, RavenPi, etc....all define a different architecture, on top of the actual version number of the AGESA code.

Very confusing, and poorly handled on AMD's part (per the norm).
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« Reply #117 on: 24-November-18, 11:17:35 »

bogdi1988, it really contains AGESA!V9.SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2.  The .txt file is all wrong.  The UEFI is E7B92AMS.120.  It was posted as a Beta recently.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

jhchris2 Is bios version 1.20 the same as beta 1.29 or have 1.20 been upgraded over beta 1.29? 
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« Reply #118 on: 24-November-18, 14:04:54 »

john.k.torset, I find "E7B92AMS.120 11/14/2018" when I open the file with a hex editor.  When I look at Beta 129, I find E7B92AMS.129 10/25/2018.  I just looked at the MSI Support page and it says 7B92v12 2018-11-15 along with other information like "- Update AGESA Code 1.0.0.6".  The AGESA found with the hex editor is as you posted.  For a number of reasons, I have no plans to use this UEFI.  Almost all the data posted looks wrong.  I do not know what it contains.  Until MSI straightens out this mess, nobody knows.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #119 on: 25-November-18, 01:51:05 »

Screw it! I'll give it a try and update on how this BIOS is. :lol_anim:
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« Reply #120 on: 25-November-18, 03:12:13 »

So, initial testing seems good. Same AGESA 1.1.0.2.
Was able to run RAM @ 3GHz with some tighter timings without BSODs. Previous BETA builds I had to drop to 2933MHz to avoid any BSOD.
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« Reply #121 on: 26-November-18, 10:14:53 »

bogdi1988, you are a very brave person!  Can you tell me, please, what RAID drivers are contained - 9.2.0.00087 or 9.2.0.00070?  Thanks and enjoy, John.
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« Reply #122 on: 26-November-18, 16:18:07 »

John, unfortunately BIOS is still on old RAID drivers.
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« Reply #123 on: 26-November-18, 19:20:56 »

Thanks much, bogdi1988.  I suspected as much.  Enjoy, John.
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« Reply #124 on: 07-December-18, 02:08:43 »

In the past I have commented about the reboot function being broken on AMD RAID. I think I have found the root cause of that.

I have gone and completely reformatted all drives and installed Windows. All worked well until I started optimizing Windows for SSD/NVME. Started seeing the issue of broken reboots again after making some changes in Windows. Through the process of elimination I was able to find out that if you disable the pagefile in Windows 10, reboot gets broken again (takes 2 reboots to show up after the change). When re-setting the pagefile back to system managed (I haven't tried a custom size), reboot function started working again. So... if you run AMD RAID on Windows 10, DON'T disable page file!
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« Reply #125 on: 10-December-18, 00:44:45 »

The Presicion Boost Overdrive (PBO) needs to be improved for the 2990WX and 2970WX.

When enabling PBO and in Blender rendering maximum CPU temperature are:

Node 0: 68'C
Node 1: 56'C
Node 2: 68'C
Node 3: 48'C

As you can see, the nodes without a working memory controller can boost to higher frequencies before hitting the limit of 68'C.

Please update the bios to independently boost each node to the maximum allowed temperature.

Since this most likely benefits chiplets without working memory controller it only applies to 2990WX and 2970WX.

Thank you.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #126 on: 22-December-18, 08:07:39 »

Can somebody check to see if wake-up LAN (WOL) is present in biases all newer than v110, I'm using the original BIOS due to memory compatibility issues, I could have swore I saw when I previously updated the BIOS but obviously I'm not upgrading now I've got things stable?
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« Reply #127 on: 24-December-18, 15:48:38 »

Can somebody check to see if wake-up LAN (WOL) is present in biases all newer than v110, I'm using the original BIOS due to memory compatibility issues, I could have swore I saw when I previously updated the BIOS but obviously I'm not upgrading now I've got things stable?
In the Wake up section there are 3 options:
1. alarm
2. USB
3. PCI-E cards. In the description of the PCI-E option they talk about PCI-E expansion cards and integrated LAN. So I am assuming this one is the WOL option.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #128 on: 11-January-19, 01:09:10 »

For whoever is curious, I tried out the modded 1.31 bios. It opens up the AMD PBS and AMD CBS menus and it is fully unlocked. If anyone wants the file I will gladly share it.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #129 on: 11-January-19, 10:14:39 »

For whoever is curious, I tried out the modded 1.31 bios. It opens up the AMD PBS and AMD CBS menus and it is fully unlocked. If anyone wants the file I will gladly share it.
I already have it posted in the beta bios section, but here it is again:

1usmus over in overclock has unlocked CBS (and a few other features) in the latest 131 beta:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/27779864-post496.html
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« Reply #130 on: 11-January-19, 10:47:46 »

Thanks, cybroonk. where is the Beta BIOS section - link?  Is it MSI's, yours, or what?  Is there any information on these files, like who created them, etc?  Is 1.31 an MSI Beta BIOS or what?  Thanks much and enjoy, John.
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bogdi1988

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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #131 on: 11-January-19, 12:52:50 »

Thanks, cybroonk. where is the Beta BIOS section - link?  Is it MSI's, yours, or what?  Is there any information on these files, like who created them, etc?  Is 1.31 an MSI Beta BIOS or what?  Thanks much and enjoy, John.
You can download the file from the link he shared in the post above.
He was refering to the Beta BIOS post that was here on the MSI forum where he initially shared the file.
Created by 1usmus and it is pretty much the official MSI 1.31 beta that was available here with a few unlocks to be able to access PBS and CBS.
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Re: MSI MEG CREATION X399 - Few Issues with Current Release BIOS
« Reply #132 on: 25-January-19, 02:31:28 »

FYI, I read that beta 1.31 of the bios will become official release of 1.3
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Hey John,

Looks like release 1.3 has the updated RAID driver as well ;)

https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1705286-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-2970wx-2950x-2920x-owners-club-77.html#post27934862
You can also try the modded on if you want. I have been using his modded bios releases and system has been pretty stable.
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