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Author Topic: B450 Tomahawk, 1700x - Noctua NH-U14S or BQ Dark Rock 4?  (Read 119 times)

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Debating on what cooler to potentially upgrade to. From what I've read, they perform quite similarly, but I can't really find any comparisons of the two on a Ryzen system.

Is there any general consensus as to which is better, aside from looks?

Currently running a Hyper 212 LED and not happy with OC temps (3.9G @ 78.3c max in Prime95).
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« Reply #1 on: 07-November-18, 06:46:03 »

Reapplied TIM and re-seated hyper 212. Moved 1 of the side 80mm fans, and reversed it. Ran Prime95 overnight. Peak temp dropped to 74.5c, averaging 71.9c over 8.5hours! Ambient temp was about 66f (19c) in the room, same as previous post.

However, to run stable at 4, I need to up Vcore to about 1.35. Temps hit 78c within 5 minutes. Unacceptable.

I've narrowed my new heat-sink choices down to the Noctua NH-U14S and Reeven Ouranos and looking for input from people that may have used either, or both.

 I'll also be putting in new case fans, quieter 80s and higher flow/pressure 120s.
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B450 Tomahawk
Ryzen 1700x OC to 3.9Ghz @ 1.2375Vcore (33.8c idle, 74.5c @ 100%)
Mastercooler Hyper 212
G.Skill TridentZ 3200 2x8gb, XMP-2, 16-16-16-38
GTX1060
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1 x 2tb WD Blue
2 x 1tb WD Gold
Old school RAIDMAX Smilodon case (modded lights to red LEDs instead of blue)
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Belkin n52te Nostromo
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« Reply #2 on: 08-November-18, 00:09:28 »

I mean, generally, no one is really ever happy with their overclocks or temps.....

But generally speaking, 4.0 GHz is about the limit of a Ryzen CPU at this point. It's more a limit of the process to used to make the CPU.
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« Reply #3 on: 09-November-18, 00:24:03 »

I mean, generally, no one is really ever happy with their overclocks or temps.....

But generally speaking, 4.0 GHz is about the limit of a Ryzen CPU at this point. It's more a limit of the process to used to make the CPU.

I'm determined to hit 4.1. But I'm thinking I'll may need to get an H80i for that.

If I stay on air, I'll need something like a Mugen 5 or Ninja 5 at minimum. Those are about the best I can fit in my case. Anything with an over 120mm fan won't fit.

But, won't be able to decide until my new fans show up Monday. Ordered a Noctua NF-P12 Redux 1700rpm for front intake, 2x Noctua Redux R8 1800rpm (80mm) for sides, and a Delta 120mm (2900rpm, 120cfm) for exhaust. 
Depending on how much that helps temps will determine if I go with air or liquid.

My goal is to hit 4.1 on as little number of fans, or smallest radiator possible, while maintaining a respectable noise level.  At the least I'll be 4g stable on air alone, which isn't too bad for such an old, cramped, case.
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Ryzen 1700x OC to 3.9Ghz @ 1.2375Vcore (33.8c idle, 74.5c @ 100%)
Mastercooler Hyper 212
G.Skill TridentZ 3200 2x8gb, XMP-2, 16-16-16-38
GTX1060
256gb Sandisk Ultradisk 3D SSD
1 x 2tb WD Blue
2 x 1tb WD Gold
Old school RAIDMAX Smilodon case (modded lights to red LEDs instead of blue)
Logitech G510 keyboard
Belkin n52te Nostromo
Thermaltake Tte Talon mouse

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« Reply #4 on: 10-November-18, 18:22:49 »

I'm determined to hit 4.1. But I'm thinking I'll may need to get an H80i for that.

If I stay on air, I'll need something like a Mugen 5 or Ninja 5 at minimum. Those are about the best I can fit in my case. Anything with an over 120mm fan won't fit.

But, won't be able to decide until my new fans show up Monday. Ordered a Noctua NF-P12 Redux 1700rpm for front intake, 2x Noctua Redux R8 1800rpm (80mm) for sides, and a Delta 120mm (2900rpm, 120cfm) for exhaust.
Depending on how much that helps temps will determine if I go with air or liquid.

My goal is to hit 4.1 on as little number of fans, or smallest radiator possible, while maintaining a respectable noise level.  At the least I'll be 4g stable on air alone, which isn't too bad for such an old, cramped, case.

Good luck. 
An H80i won't make much of a difference overall. 
In the end, you're trying to break physical/process barriers, not just 'luck of the silicon lottery' barriers.
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