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B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« on: 17-November-18, 14:48:39 »

Months ago I transfered everything from my Disk Drive to my new Samsung 2TB SSD.

And I want to play Halo Wars 2 on the PC but unfortunatly the game can only be played on Windows 10 and prompted me to think; Can I have two drives with diferent Operating Systems installed??

So I want Windows 10 installed on my Hard Disk Drive and I have Windows 7 on my Samsung SSD.
I don't mean as in running two Operating Systems AT ONCE, more like run Windows 7, then if I want to go on Windows 10, I'll shut the PC down unplug my SSD and plug in my Windows 10 drive and run it.

Would I be able to do that or would my Motherboard get confused or break?

I got some advice from a guy in a computer store and said it can only be done with certain MB's and needs a certain chip to cope with it.
So is my MB compatible to do this? I have a MSI B150A Gaming Pro board.

Thanks.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #1 on: 17-November-18, 16:39:19 »

Hello,
Of course you can! :yes:
It is useless to connect/unconnect disks: use Windows 10 boot loader to select the OS you want to use (with a temporisation, the system will automatically boot on Windows 10 if you do not select 7 before). To do:
- remove your disk installed with Windows 7.
- plug only the disk where you want to install Windows 10 (to be certain that all its partitions will be created on the same disk).
- In bios, set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select"= "UEFI".
- Install Windows 10. Wait all updates end, then disable Windows Fast Statup:
  . Enter in "Control Panel \ Power Options".
  . Click "Choose what the power buttons do", then "Change settings that are currently unavailables".
  . Search for "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" entry.
  . If you have it, uncheck.
  . If you have not,
    . enter in "Settings > Accounts > Sign-in options".
    . set "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart" at "Off".
- Enter in bios setup.
  . Set "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Fast Boot" = "Disabled".
  . Select the Windows 10 disk in "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities".
- Connect your other disk with Windows 7.
- Start Windows 10.
  . Open Disk manager and see the Windows 7 partition. If it has not already a letter, select Z.
  . Open a CMD as administrator then type:
bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 7"
(note the GUID in the response: "The entry was successfully copied to {<GUID>}")
bcdedit /set {<Type here the GUID>} device partition=Z:
bcdedit /set {<Type here the GUID>} osdevice partition=Z:
  . In Disk manager, remove the letter Z for the Windows 7 partition.
- Finish!
Have a good day,

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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #2 on: 18-November-18, 12:57:38 »

Hello,
Of course you can! :yes:
It is useless to connect/unconnect disks: use Windows 10 boot loader to select the OS you want to use (with a temporisation, the system will automatically boot on Windows 10 if you do not select 7 before). To do:
- remove your disk installed with Windows 7.
- plug only the disk where you want to install Windows 10 (to be certain that all its partitions will be created on the same disk).
- In bios, set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select"= "UEFI".
- Install Windows 10. Wait all updates end, then disable Windows Fast Statup:
  . Enter in "Control Panel \ Power Options".
  . Click "Choose what the power buttons do", then "Change settings that are currently unavailables".
  . Search for "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" entry.
  . If you have it, uncheck.
  . If you have not,
    . enter in "Settings > Accounts > Sign-in options".
    . set "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart" at "Off".
- Enter in bios setup.
  . Set "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Fast Boot" = "Disabled".
  . Select the Windows 10 disk in "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities".
- Connect your other disk with Windows 7.
- Start Windows 10.
  . Open Disk manager and see the Windows 7 partition. If it has not already a letter, select Z.
  . Open a CMD as administrator then type:
bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 7"
(note the GUID in the response: "The entry was successfully copied to {<GUID>}")
bcdedit /set {<Type here the GUID>} device partition=Z:
bcdedit /set {<Type here the GUID>} osdevice partition=Z:
  . In Disk manager, remove the letter Z for the Windows 7 partition.
- Finish!
Have a good day,

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Thank you my good man! :-) As soon as I purchase a Windows 10 disk, I'll let you know.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #3 on: 18-November-18, 16:17:33 »

Hello,
It is not required to buy a disk and a new licence:
- You can use your Windows 7 licence: because you are using it on the same pc, so that you cannot use 7 and 10 at the same time, the activation is possible for the 2 Windows with the same key.
- The full Windows 10 distribution is available on Microsoft site: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10, . It is even recommended to use it rather than a DVD distribution because it is the last version: currently, 1803. Downlaod then runt it and choose to create an USB pen (you will need an empty pen with at least 8GB).
Good luck,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #4 on: 19-November-18, 15:13:37 »

Hello,
It is not required to buy a disk and a new licence:
- You can use your Windows 7 licence: because you are using it on the same pc, so that you cannot use 7 and 10 at the same time, the activation is possible for the 2 Windows with the same key.
- The full Windows 10 distribution is available on Microsoft site: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10, . It is even recommended to use it rather than a DVD distribution because it is the last version: currently, 1803. Downlaod then runt it and choose to create an USB pen (you will need an empty pen with at least 8GB).
Good luck,
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Creation Tool? Is this the link to actually download Windows 10? I thought it had to be purchased?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #5 on: 19-November-18, 15:53:54 »

Hello,
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Creation Tool? Is this the link to actually download Windows 10? I thought it had to be purchased?
Yes it is! :yes:
Download the tool, run it then choose to create an USB key. Doing that, you will obtain a full distribution up-to-date. Boot on the USB key to install Windows 10 and when you will be asked for key, enter yours for Windows 7: it shall work and do not block its use for Windows 7 on the same pc.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #6 on: 19-November-18, 16:17:20 »

Hi,

So I download the tool, put the file(s) in the USB folder then run it and that will creat the key to install Windows 10?
Then shut down my computer, unplug my Windows 7 drive, then connect my spare disk drive in along with the Windows 10 USB key and then boot up the system and insert my Windows 7 key?

Is there any details on the Windows 10 OS like what bit system type? For example is it 32-bit/64bit?

Because currently my system specs are at the moment:

Windows 7 Service Pack 1
CPU: Intel i5-6500 3.20GHz
System Type: 64-bit OS

Sorry if I annoy you with these questions, I just want to be 100% certain before going ahead with this, because knowing my luck, something always goes wrong for me. :D
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« Reply #7 on: 19-November-18, 16:49:51 »

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So I download the tool, put the file(s) in the USB folder then run it and that will creat the key to install Windows 10?
Yes! Run the tool and it shall ask a USB key (at least 8GB). After that, key shall be formatted then distribution downloaded and copied on the key by the tool.
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Then shut down my computer, unplug my Windows 7 drive, then connect my spare disk drive in along with the Windows 10 USB key and then boot up the system and insert my Windows 7 key?
Yes!
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Is there any details on the Windows 10 OS like what bit system type? For example is it 32-bit/64bit?
Because, your 7 key is for 64bits, you have to select a Windows 10 64bits distribution to be downloaded. You have also to select the same type for Windows 10 (home, pro...).
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Sorry if I annoy you with these questions, I just want to be 100% certain before going ahead with this, because knowing my luck, something always goes wrong for me.
No problem! Do not fear: the first step, that is the install of Windows 10, cannot alter your initial Windows 7 installation because the disk is not plugged.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #8 on: 21-November-18, 14:57:15 »

I managed to installed Windows 10 on my disk drive yesterday with no problem with the latest updates as you suggested.


But later in the day, I tried what you suggested in your first reply to this post.


When you said about the BCDEDIT in Command Prompt.


The only drives I have on my computer are;


RAMDisk (B:) [When I installed MSI Live Update]

Disk Drive (F:) [Windows 10]

Samsung SSD (C:) [Windows 7]

Local Disk (Q:) [Not sure what this one is, won't let me access it]

DVD RW Drive (D:)


But I did what you instructed;


bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 7"

bcdedit /set {Type GUID} device partition=Z:

bcdedit /set {Type GUID} osdevice partition=Z:   <----- When I pressed ENTER when I typed this one in it displayed an error message and I think I messed it up. Is there a way to restore this BCDEDIT to default?


Even when I get the blue option at Bootup to select Windows 10 or Windows 7 it keeps rebooting the system.


And at one time when I pressed DEL to enter my BIOS, the icons that display the order of Boot Prioritys are messed up.


Is this something to worry about are just a minor glitch after too many restarts?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #9 on: 21-November-18, 17:13:50 »

Hello,
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I managed to installed Windows 10 on my disk drive yesterday with no problem with the latest updates as you suggested.
Good! :biggthumbsup:
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Disk Drive (F:) [Windows 10]
Samsung SSD (C:) [Windows 7]
Not Good! :biggthumbsdown:
As I explained previously, you have to boot on the drive where you have installed Windows 10. In that case, letter should be "C:" for it! You have booted on Windows 7 and it is why the next did not worked.
- Enter in bios setup.
  . Set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI".
  . Remove all except the Windows 10 disk in "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities".
- Connect your other disk with Windows 7.
- Boot and your Windows 10 should start without you have to anything.
- If right, open Disk manager and verify that Windows 10 has c: as letter. Then, see the Windows 7 partition. If it has not already a letter, select Z. Open a CMD as administrator then type:
bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 7"
=> what GUID do you obtain in the response "The entry was successfully copied to {<GUID>}")?
I will help you for the next; begin by that...
Have a good day,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #10 on: 22-November-18, 13:03:49 »

So I tried what you said. At first when I reconnected my Windows 7 drive and rebooted it just kept going to blank screen then, MSI Boot loading screen constantly.
Then I disconnected my Windows 7 drive and Windows 10 had a problem, I some how managed to fix it and when I got to the Windows 10 desktop I connected my Windows 7 SSD and I am now typing this on Windows 10.

And I've changed my SSD drive to Z:  and when I typed "bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 7"
A messaged displayed "The entry was successfully copied to 18e56135-ee86-11e8-b8da-d8cb8a9aee67!

So what do I do next?
I'll keep the command prompt open for your next steps/instructions.
I hope what I did is okay and not compromise anything.

P.S What does typing in {current} do and why type in /d? Does it mean a drive because like I said in my last reply, my D drive is my CD/DVD drive.
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« Reply #11 on: 22-November-18, 17:26:29 »

Hello,
It should not be efficient to try to repair. The easiest is to install again Windows 10 on the drive (do not fear about your Windows licence it shall be automatically reused). Do exactly that:
- Unplug all disks except the drive where you want to install Windows 10 (to be certain that all required partitions [boot loader, OS and backup partitions] will be created on it).
- Plug the USB flash drive with the downloaded Windows 10 installer.
- Enter in Bios Setup, press <F6>, confirm, set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select"="UEFI", press <F10> and confirm.
- PC should reboot and begin Windows install. Select "Custom" as installation type. Select each partition on the drive then select "Delete". When all partitions are deleted, select the unallocated space and click "Next" (not "New", only "Next"). Because there is no partition on the drive and PC was booted into UEFI mode, Windows should (re)initialize the drive as GPT then begin the installation.
- Start Windows 10 and wait end of updates. Disable Windows Fast Statup:
  . Enter in "Control Panel \ Power Options".
  . Click "Choose what the power buttons do", then "Change settings that are currently unavailables".
  . Search for "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" entry.
  . If you have it, uncheck.
  . If you have not,
    . enter in "Settings > Accounts > Sign-in options".
    . set "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart" at "Off".
- Enter in bios setup and remove all except the Windows 10 disk in "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities".
- Verify that pc boot goodly and start Windows 10 automatically.
- Open Disk Manager and do a screen copy showing all the disk partitions.
Do not connect the other HDD/SSD at this time; wait for the next. I will help for the next after you confirmed all is ok.
Good courage,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #12 on: 22-November-18, 17:28:22 »

I just change my boot drive priority in the BIOS to get it to boot off my secondary OS.  I have mine set up so each version of Windows I use does not see the other drive by disabling the other drive in the Device Manager.  If you installed 10 with the 7 disk unplugged like you said each drive should have its own boot files, if the 7 drive was still installed when you did the 10 installation then most likely all the boot information for both drives are on the 7 drive.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #13 on: 23-November-18, 14:59:56 »

Hello,
It should not be efficient to try to repair. The easiest is to install again Windows 10 on the drive (do not fear about your Windows licence it shall be automatically reused). Do exactly that:
- Unplug all disks except the drive where you want to install Windows 10 (to be certain that all required partitions [boot loader, OS and backup partitions] will be created on it).
- Plug the USB flash drive with the downloaded Windows 10 installer.
- Enter in Bios Setup, press <F6>, confirm, set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select"="UEFI", press <F10> and confirm.
- PC should reboot and begin Windows install. Select "Custom" as installation type. Select each partition on the drive then select "Delete". When all partitions are deleted, select the unallocated space and click "Next" (not "New", only "Next"). Because there is no partition on the drive and PC was booted into UEFI mode, Windows should (re)initialize the drive as GPT then begin the installation.
- Start Windows 10 and wait end of updates. Disable Windows Fast Statup:
  . Enter in "Control Panel \ Power Options".
  . Click "Choose what the power buttons do", then "Change settings that are currently unavailables".
  . Search for "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" entry.
  . If you have it, uncheck.
  . If you have not,
    . enter in "Settings > Accounts > Sign-in options".
    . set "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart" at "Off".
- Enter in bios setup and remove all except the Windows 10 disk in "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities".
- Verify that pc boot goodly and start Windows 10 automatically.
- Open Disk Manager and do a screen copy showing all the disk partitions.
Do not connect the other HDD/SSD at this time; wait for the next. I will help for the next after you confirmed all is ok.
Good courage,
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Install again? (sigh)
Well, I've ordered a new  1TB SSD so I'll install Windows 10 on that, would I still be able to use my activation key on that drive when I format my Disk Drive?
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« Reply #14 on: 23-November-18, 16:50:39 »

Hello,
Yes you can: the key can be used again and again if you do not change the mobo.
Do not format your new SSD: Windows 10 installer shall do as required.
Please, do exactly what I explained in my previous post and tell me the result before to do more.
Have a good day,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #15 on: 24-November-18, 09:54:56 »

I said format my Disk Drive, not my new SSD. :D lol
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« Reply #16 on: 24-November-18, 10:06:15 »

Hello,
Ah... Yes you can format your HDD with old Windows 10 without risk: your key shall remain available for the next install on the new SSD.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #17 on: 30-November-18, 11:45:46 »

Hello,
Ah... Yes you can format your HDD with old Windows 10 without risk: your key shall remain available for the next install on the new SSD.
Have a good day,
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Hi again, followed your steps and waiting for next part, but for some unknown reason, my system restarts. The only Boot Priority is Windows 10 drive, everything else is disabled.
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« Reply #18 on: 30-November-18, 15:41:09 »

Hello,
1/ At this time, have you only the new 1TB SSD connected and you have followed the method I described previously to install Windows 10 on it?
2/ If yes, what is this SSD model? On what port is it connected?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #19 on: 30-November-18, 15:59:32 »

Hello,
1/ At this time, have you only the new 1TB SSD connected and you have followed the method I described previously to install Windows 10 on it?
2/ If yes, what is this SSD model? On what port is it connected?
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The only devices connected was my USB [To install Windows 10], my CD/DVD drive and my SSD.

My SSD model is Samsung 860 EVO V-Nand.

And one Windows Update failed, not sure if it's the one restarting my PC.

The update is; 2018-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based System (KB4467708) Error Code: 0x8024200d
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« Reply #20 on: 30-November-18, 16:55:56 »

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And one Windows Update failed, not sure if it's the one restarting my PC.
The update is; 2018-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based System (KB4467708) Error Code: 0x8024200d
Yes, it is this update: 1809 has many incompatibilities with Intel CPU gen 6 or least. On mine also, it does not work: pc freezes during next start!
Try to set in bios "OC \ Hyper-Threading" = "Disabled". It is a workaround in waiting bios new version.
If that works:
- Keep only Samsung 860 EVO V-Nand and verify it is connected on SATA1.
- Do the next as I explained in my previous post (stop at the step when you have to connect the other HDD/SSD).
Good luck,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #21 on: 01-December-18, 13:00:41 »

Hello,Yes, it is this update: 1809 has many incompatibilities with Intel CPU gen 6 or least. On mine also, it does not work: pc freezes during next start!
Try to set in bios "OC \ Hyper-Threading" = "Disabled". It is a workaround in waiting bios new version.
If that works:
- Keep only Samsung 860 EVO V-Nand and verify it is connected on SATA1.
- Do the next as I explained in my previous post (stop at the step when you have to connect the other HDD/SSD).
Good luck,
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Can't find the Hyper-Threading setting. I've looked all over my BIOS settings.
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« Reply #22 on: 01-December-18, 16:22:15 »

Hello,
See p.55 of the >>Manual<<:

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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #23 on: 02-December-18, 08:22:36 »

I looked at the BIOS again and in EZ Mode it said that Hyper-Theading: N/A and in CPU Features the option to turn it off/on is still not there.
Do I install the drivers from the CD that came with the motherboard, would that work?
Or shall I load Optimized Defaults in hoping it would give me the option to turn it on?

I don't understand why I'm having issues with the OS on my new SSD and didn't have this problem on my disk drive.
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« Reply #24 on: 03-December-18, 01:58:08 »

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1/ I don't understand why I'm having issues with the OS on my new SSD and didn't have this problem on my disk drive.
When you were running Windows 10 on HDD, 1809 release distribution was suspended because of many bugs. Microsoft has recently decided to resume distribution. Thanks Microsoft for users consideration! :angryfire:
2/ What is your CPU (is it a Celeron)?
3/ I suggest first to load more recent bios version known as good (show >>Here<<, last column, to verify it is compatible with your CPU). Do exactly that:
- Download >>Bios V1.E0<<.
- Take an USB pen having no more than 16GB (physical size) with only one partition.
   It must be FAT32 (I recommend to verify the pen with CHKDSK).
- Unzip it and copy the file "E7978IMS.1E0" on the root of the USB pen.
- Boot and enter in Bios Setup. Press <F6>, confirm, press <F10> and confirm. Pc should restart.
- Enter again in Bios Setup.
- Plug the USB pen into one 2.0 port of the back panel (those below PS/2).
- Click on the M-Flash button then select the file on the USB pen.
- M-Flash should start. Be cautious to not abort it before the end (can last up to 5mn).
- Power off pc and PSU then wait 5s after all mobo's LEDs light off.
Result?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #25 on: 03-December-18, 12:11:28 »

I bought the CPU from Amazon years ago. Here is the link.
Intel CPU Link

It doesn't say it's a Celeron as far as I looked.
Years ago while I was looking for a new MB and various other gaming hardware, I kept been told that this CPU was a good choice at the time.

And about a week or two before I originally posted this I updated my motherboard.
So this link you're showing me. Might be for the current version I am using.

And I just thought of this, might be silly but worth mentioning.
Since my new SSD arrvied, I still have Windows 10 installed on my HDD, would that some how confuse the system, because there is two key active Windows 10 OS's on two different drives?
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« Reply #26 on: 03-December-18, 17:17:01 »

Hello,
Yes, i5-6500 is not a Celeron! :yes:
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I looked at the BIOS again and in EZ Mode it said that Hyper-Theading: N/A
It is abnormal! :undecided:
Because of that, I suggest to load (even if you have already it) the more recent bios version known as good BUT doing exactly that:
- Download >>Bios V1.E0<<.
- Take an USB pen having no more than 16GB (physical size) with only one partition.
   It must be FAT32 (I recommend to verify the pen with CHKDSK).
- Unzip it and copy the file "E7978IMS.1E0" on the root of the USB pen.
- Boot and enter in Bios Setup. Press <F6>, confirm, press <F10> and confirm. Pc should restart.
- Enter again in Bios Setup.
- Plug the USB pen into one 2.0 port of the back panel (those below PS/2).
- Click on the M-Flash button then select the file on the USB pen.
- M-Flash should start. Be cautious to not abort it before the end (can last up to 5mn).
- Power off pc and PSU then wait 5s after all mobo's LEDs light off.
- Power on, enter in bios setup and set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI".
Can you npw set in bios "OC \ Hyper-Threading" = "Disabled"?
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And I just thought of this, might be silly but worth mentioning.
Since my new SSD arrvied, I still have Windows 10 installed on my HDD, would that some how confuse the system, because there is two key active Windows 10 OS's on two different drives?
NEVER, never run a pc having more than 1 Windows 10 partition connected at the same time: boot loader and the os partitions themselves could be damaged by a (re)start. I was thinking that you have only the SSD with the new Windows 10 connected at this time; right or false? If false, please connect only this SSD until we have finished the Windows 10 configuration. If right, do not worry; the key is registered for the pc, not the drive.
Have a good day,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #27 on: 04-December-18, 12:40:16 »

Hello,
Yes, i5-6500 is not a Celeron! :yes: It is abnormal! :undecided:
Because of that, I suggest to load (even if you have already it) the more recent bios version known as good BUT doing exactly that:
- Download >>Bios V1.E0<<.
- Take an USB pen having no more than 16GB (physical size) with only one partition.
   It must be FAT32 (I recommend to verify the pen with CHKDSK).
- Unzip it and copy the file "E7978IMS.1E0" on the root of the USB pen.
- Boot and enter in Bios Setup. Press <F6>, confirm, press <F10> and confirm. Pc should restart.
- Enter again in Bios Setup.
- Plug the USB pen into one 2.0 port of the back panel (those below PS/2).
- Click on the M-Flash button then select the file on the USB pen.
- M-Flash should start. Be cautious to not abort it before the end (can last up to 5mn).
- Power off pc and PSU then wait 5s after all mobo's LEDs light off.
- Power on, enter in bios setup and set "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI".
Can you npw set in bios "OC \ Hyper-Threading" = "Disabled"?NEVER, never run a pc having more than 1 Windows 10 partition connected at the same time: boot loader and the os partitions themselves could be damaged by a (re)start. I was thinking that you have only the SSD with the new Windows 10 connected at this time; right or false? If false, please connect only this SSD until we have finished the Windows 10 configuration. If right, do not worry; the key is registered for the pc, not the drive.
Have a good day,
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I'm thinking I might upgrade my CPU later in 2019.
It's been good but struggles with the games I have. :D

My current BIOS version is: E7978IMS.1G0
So I will try your method. Keep worrying I might "brick" the board.

If it goes smothly, I'll let you know what happens.

And no, I would never run two drives of the same OS. I meant while HDD was disonnected, it still had Windows 10 on while I installed Windows 10 on my new SSD. :D
And what is PS/2? Never heard of it.
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« Reply #28 on: 04-December-18, 17:31:36 »

Hello,
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And no, I would never run two drives of the same OS. I meant while HDD was disconnected, it still had Windows 10 on while I installed Windows 10 on my new SSD. :D
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And what is PS/2? Never heard of it.
 
It is for "old" keyboard and mouse. When the mobo has problem with USB, this port is handfull (I always keep a such keyboard).
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Keep worrying I might "brick" the board.
How have you updated bios in the past? M-Flash method is the more secure but I understand what you say... :think: 

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I don't understand why I'm having issues with the OS on my new SSD and didn't have this problem on my disk drive.
Unconnect the SSD, connect only the HDD with Windows 10, force Windows Update so that 1809 shall be applied. Does it crash like with the SSD?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #29 on: 05-December-18, 13:18:27 »

Hello,:biggthumbsup:
  [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
It is for "old" keyboard and mouse. When the mobo has problem with USB, this port is handfull (I always keep a such keyboard).How have you updated bios in the past? M-Flash method is the more secure but I understand what you say... :think:
Unconnect the SSD, connect only the HDD with Windows 10, force Windows Update so that 1809 shall be applied. Does it crash like with the SSD?
Good luck,
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I've only updated the BIOS once and that was about a month or two ago.
And I worry if I did it again with the same version it would some how corrupt my board. Before I updated it all I kept hearing that if doing the process fails it bricks the board.

And my previous post, I tried adding something else but couldn't do it.
Tried saying that I have formated my HDD so there is no OS on it and that a few nights ago I was messing around the settings and changed a few settings in the Windows Feature box. (Don't ask me what because I forgot! :D lol) and since doing that, Windows 10 has not self-restarted yet.

Last night I was on Windows 10 for about a few hours, no restart.
And today at 4pm till now, still no restart. Good yes?

Do you still want me to M-FLASH my board?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #30 on: 05-December-18, 13:29:05 »

ADDITIONAL: Also a few nights ago my OS managed to install the failed update, but twice with the (2) at the end.
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« Reply #31 on: 05-December-18, 16:24:10 »

Last night I was on Windows 10 for about a few hours, no restart. And today at 4pm till now, still no restart. Good yes?
Do you still want me to M-FLASH my board?
Hello,
Are you the same person as Illusive Prime?
If all work fine, keep current bios.
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« Reply #32 on: 05-December-18, 16:47:44 »

ADDITIONAL: Also a few nights ago my OS managed to install the failed update, but twice with the (2) at the end.
1/ Windows 10 on the SSD works good except the update who abort each time. Right?
=> If yes, what is its name? Suspend Windows updates for the moment:
- Click on "Settings" in start manu
- Click on "Windows Update" icon
- Click on "Advanced options" link
- Turn on "Pause updates"
=> Updates are suspended for the next 35 days.
2/ SSD is connected alone and it is on SATA1. Right?
3/ Please, start Windows, start Disk Manager and
- Do a screen copy showing all the SSD's partitions.
- Verify also how it has been initialized: right-clicking on its label, you would see a greyed entry named "Convert to MBR...". Do you see that?
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« Reply #33 on: 06-December-18, 11:16:30 »

1) Yes, it was me under that different name. This website is annoying to do the simplest thing, it just randomly changed my name. Even replying to someone it would just log me out! :D
2) Yes, it's the same update that keeps failing that has updated right. It was the "2018-11 Cumalative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4467708) (2)" I'll try to post a screenshot if I can.
3) I aggree, anu OS is better on a SSD. SSD POWER!!! :D
4) I couldn't find the option to Pause any updates. The only options there is:
"Give me updates for other MS products when I update Windows" [OFF]
 "Automaticaly download updates, even over metered data connections (charges may apply)" [OFF]
"Show a notification when your PC requires a restart to finish updating." [ON]
And "Delivery Optimisation".
5) I think my Windows 10 SSD is plugged into my SATA 2 Port, want me to connect it to SATA 1?
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« Reply #34 on: 06-December-18, 17:11:27 »

Hello,
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Yes, it's the same update that keeps failing that has updated right. It was the "2018-11 Cumalative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based Systems (KB4467708) (2)" I'll try to post a screenshot if I can.
Yes, it is 1809!

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I couldn't find the option to Pause any updates
Click on "Settings \ Windows Update \ Advanced options" then turn on "Pause updates"; see here for photos:
>>How to Pause Windows 10 Updates for Up to 35 Days<<.

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I think my Windows 10 SSD is plugged into my SATA 2 Port, want me to connect it to SATA 1?
It is not required, only better.

To finish, do not omit to do that:
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3/ Please, start Windows, start Disk Manager and
- Do a screen copy showing all the SSD's partitions.
- Verify also how it has been initialized: right-clicking on its label, you would see a greyed entry named "Convert to MBR...". Do you see that?
It should be usefull for the next step: adding Windows 7 entry to have a dual boot.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #35 on: 07-December-18, 15:18:49 »

Hello,Yes, it is 1809!
Click on "Settings \ Windows Update \ Advanced options" then turn on "Pause updates"; see here for photos:
>>How to Pause Windows 10 Updates for Up to 35 Days<<.
It is not required, only better.

To finish, do not omit to do that:It should be usefull for the next step: adding Windows 7 entry to have a dual boot.
Friendly yours,
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Hi again,

1) Still, there is no option of Pausing Updates.
2) Can't find the option of "Convert to MBR". (See screenshot)
Also I have extra Disk partions I have never seen before.
The only disk's I have connected is my HDD for Storage, 2TB SSD for Windows 7 & my other SSD which is for Windows 10 that I am currently using now.
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« Reply #36 on: 07-December-18, 18:51:44 »

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Also I have extra Disk partions I have never seen before.
"EFI System Partition" is the boot loader, so it is normal. I am only surprised by the 2 "OEM Partition" on Disk1

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The only disk's I have connected is my HDD for Storage, 2TB SSD for Windows 7 & my other SSD which is for Windows 10 that I am currently using now.
Please confirm:
- Disk0 is the SSD with Windows 7
- Disk1 is the other SSD with the new Windows 10
- Disk2 is the HDD for storage
1/ Right?
2/ Disk1 is connected to SATA1 port. Right?
3/ In bios setup, click on "SETTINGS \ Boot". "Boot Mode Select" is set at "UEFI" and in "Boot Option Priorities", there is only 1 entry corresponding to Disk1. Right?

If the answer is yes for the 3 previous questions, get the freeware >>EasyBCD V2.3<< (do not fear, I have tested it for virus and use it since 3 years without any problem). Run it, enter "MSI" (without quotes) as password and extract the archive content (only the file "EasyBCD2.3.exe"). Run the installer "EasyBCD2.3.exe". After that, run EasyBCD.
- Select "Edit Boot Menu":

Verify that you have only Windows 10 entry. Set the count down to the max time to wait before to load the default OS if user does not select one (I set it at 2s). Save.
- Select "Add New Entry". Do exactly what is shown in the figure:

Reboot. Yo would now be able to choose between Windows 7 and 10.
Hoping to have goodly explained,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #37 on: 10-December-18, 13:04:26 »

Hello,"EFI System Partition" is the boot loader, so it is normal. I am only surprised by the 2 "OEM Partition" on Disk1
Please confirm:
- Disk0 is the SSD with Windows 7
- Disk1 is the other SSD with the new Windows 10
- Disk2 is the HDD for storage
1/ Right?
2/ Disk1 is connected to SATA1 port. Right?
3/ In bios setup, click on "SETTINGS \ Boot". "Boot Mode Select" is set at "UEFI" and in "Boot Option Priorities", there is only 1 entry corresponding to Disk1. Right?

If the answer is yes for the 3 previous questions, get the freeware >>EasyBCD V2.3<< (do not fear, I have tested it for virus and use it since 3 years without any problem). Run it, enter "MSI" (without quotes) as password and extract the archive content (only the file "EasyBCD2.3.exe"). Run the installer "EasyBCD2.3.exe". After that, run EasyBCD.
- Select "Edit Boot Menu":
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
Verify that you have only Windows 10 entry. Set the count down to the max time to wait before to load the default OS if user does not select one (I set it at 2s). Save.
- Select "Add New Entry". Do exactly what is shown in the figure:
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
Reboot. Yo would now be able to choose between Windows 7 and 10.
Hoping to have goodly explained,
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Hi again,

I have UEFI and have not changed it for a while.

D: Is my storage drive (SATA3 Port)
C: Is my Windows 10 Drive (SATA2 Port)
F: Is my Windows 7 Drive (SATA1 Port)

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« Reply #38 on: 10-December-18, 14:05:48 »

So I've done it but when I restart it comes up with a black screen to choose my desired OS.
I thought it was supposed to be a blue screen with the choices.
(I tried posting a screenshot but the site won't let me)
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« Reply #39 on: 10-December-18, 16:41:44 »

EDIT: Never mind that last post. I went back to the programme and ticked the Metro-Bootloader option. It was disabled in your screenshots.
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« Reply #40 on: 11-December-18, 02:09:10 »

Hello,

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D: Is my storage drive (SATA3 Port)
C: Is my Windows 10 Drive (SATA2 Port)
F: Is my Windows 7 Drive (SATA1 Port)
Please, do exactly that:
- Connect SSD with Windows 10 to SATA1, SSD with Windows 7 to SATA2 and HDD to SATA3
- Enter in bios setup,
  . Verify that "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI"
  . Click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities" and remove all but the W10 SSD's UEFI loader
- Boot
   . Press <F11> when the MSI splash screen displays
   . Verify that W10 SSD is selected by default
   . Press <Enter>
=> If all previous steps were successfull, you would be now in Windows 10. If Ok:
- Open Disk Manager.
- If the W7 partition is not affected to letter "F:", right-click on it to change its current letter then select "F:"
- Install easyBCD and do exactly what I have shown in my previous post (do not check "Metro Bootloader" option, it is only to have older "blue display" of boot options as big button.
- Open again Disk Manager.
- Remove "F:" letter for W7 partition (having none letter affected to this partition, permit to have not it displayed in Explorer).
=> Reboot to verify that you have now the possibility to choose between the 2 Windows versions.
Have a good day,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #41 on: 11-December-18, 12:18:00 »

Hello,
Please, do exactly that:
- Connect SSD with Windows 10 to SATA1, SSD with Windows 7 to SATA2 and HDD to SATA3
- Enter in bios setup,
  . Verify that "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI"
  . Click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities" and remove all but the W10 SSD's UEFI loader
- Boot
   . Press <F11> when the MSI splash screen displays
   . Verify that W10 SSD is selected by default
   . Press <Enter>
=> If all previous steps were successfull, you would be now in Windows 10. If Ok:
- Open Disk Manager.
- If the W7 partition is not affected to letter "F:", right-click on it to change its current letter then select "F:"
- Install easyBCD and do exactly what I have shown in my previous post (do not check "Metro Bootloader" option, it is only to have older "blue display" of boot options as big button.
- Open again Disk Manager.
- Remove "F:" letter for W7 partition (having none letter affected to this partition, permit to have not it displayed in Explorer).
=> Reboot to verify that you have now the possibility to choose between the 2 Windows versions.
Have a good day,
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 Hello again,


I am stuck on your last part.

You say that I should remove the :F letter on my Windows 7 drive but how do I do this?
Do I go to;
- Change Drive Letter and Paths
- Then click "Remove" on the F: letter?
If so, wouldn't that delete the data on that drive???
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« Reply #42 on: 11-December-18, 15:42:51 »

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You say that I should remove the :F letter on my Windows 7 drive but how do I do this?
Do I go to;
- Change Drive Letter and Paths
- Then click "Remove" on the F: letter?
If so, wouldn't that delete the data on that drive???
Yes, you have to click on the "Remove" button. Do not fear: it shall only remove the affected letter used to access the W7 partition, not the content of the partition itself. See >>Here (Option One)<< for explanations with figures.
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« Reply #43 on: 12-December-18, 12:36:18 »

Errm....?
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« Reply #44 on: 12-December-18, 17:01:11 »

Hello,
1/ Reply yes! :yes:
Windows says only: if there is program using this drive as "F:\<...>", is shall not work after you removed the letter. Of course, it is not your case and this alert does not say that dtat on drive will be cleared. Do not fear!
2/ Pease, only for verification, run easyBCD, click on "View Settings" button and do a screen copy.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #45 on: 13-December-18, 07:36:05 »

Hi again, screen copy of the settings you suggested in your early screenshots? I turned of that Metro boot loader. Can't do it right now as I am at work. Lol :D
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« Reply #46 on: 13-December-18, 10:55:13 »

Hello,
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screen copy of the settings you suggested in your early screenshots?
It was only to verify that boot loader configuration is good. Clicking on "View Settings" button, you would see something like that:

but with only the 3 entries Default / Windows 10 / Windows 7. Right?

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I turned of that Metro boot loader
If you prefer blue display of boot entries, of course, you can! ;-))

In conclusion, do all work now as you wanted:
- When pc boot, you have the choice between Windows 10 and 7.
- When you select Windows 10, Windows 10 starts and works fine.
- When you select Windows 7, Windows 7 starts and works fine.
- When you do nothing, after the timeout, Windows 10 starts.
If yes to all, I have nothing more to say than enjoy!

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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #47 on: 13-December-18, 11:16:53 »

Hello,It was only to verify that boot loader configuration is good. Clicking on "View Settings" button, you would see something like that:

but with only the 3 entries Default / Windows 10 / Windows 7. Right?
If you prefer blue display of boot entries, of course, you can! ;-))

In conclusion, do all work now as you wanted:
- When pc boot, you have the choice between Windows 10 and 7.
- When you select Windows 10, Windows 10 starts and works fine.
- When you select Windows 7, Windows 7 starts and works fine.
- When you do nothing, after the timeout, Windows 10 starts.
If yes to all, I have nothing more to say than enjoy!

Friendly yours,
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 Hi again,
I've attached two screenshots, the one you wanted of EasyBCD & one were I have sucessfully removed F: from my Windows 7 Drive.
Just two questions;
- So when I go onto the Window 7 OS, will it automattacally give that drive the C: letter and remove it if I'm on Windows 10 etc?
- So, everything is finally in order, am I okay to uninstall EasyBCD programe or do I need it to maintain the settings for the duel-boot settings?

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« Reply #48 on: 13-December-18, 17:32:07 »

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Thank you my friend for all your help!! :D
You are :welcome:
Glad to have been able to help you! ;-))

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when I go onto the Window 7 OS, will it automattacally give that drive the C: letter and remove it if I'm on Windows 10 etc?
By default partition with booting OS take the letter "c:". Therefore:
- if you select Windows 7, correspondig partition shall have letter "c:"
- if you select Windows 10, correspondig partition shall have letter "c:"
I recommend to remove also letter for Windows 10 partition when are using Windows 7.

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Everything is finally in order, am I okay to uninstall EasyBCD programe or do I need it to maintain the settings for the duel-boot settings?
You can uninstall it without any risk! Nevertheless, I would kept it: it takes a tiny place on disk, does not use ressources when not started and could be usefull to change some start parameters (change OS started by default, change the delay before default load, change labels, add Linux entry...).

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« Reply #49 on: 29-January-19, 14:47:33 »

So I was messing arround with the EasyBCD tool and and after saving a change some minor problems came up. See the screenshots.

I hope they can be fixed lol.

I've restored my MB to defualts and still kept it to UEFI setting.

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« Reply #50 on: 29-January-19, 14:52:43 »

I tried uploading the second screen but I can't.

It had:
Windows 10
Windows Boot Manager (On volume 2)
UEFI: IP4 Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (H) l219-v
UEFI: IP6 Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (H) l219-v
Windows Boot Manager (On volume 6)
CD/DVD Drive

I just want to have Windows 10 and Windows 7 back as the only options again.
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« Reply #51 on: 29-January-19, 17:04:51 »

Hello,
I believe that Windows has (again) badly tried to upddate to 1809! :angryfire: 
Enter in bios setup and verify: "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI"
Run EasyBCD, click on "Edit Boot Menu" and show what is displayed.
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« Reply #52 on: 30-January-19, 15:04:39 »

Hello,
I believe that Windows has (again) badly tried to upddate to 1809! :angryfire:  
Enter in bios setup and verify: "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI"
Run EasyBCD, click on "Edit Boot Menu" and show what is displayed.
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« Reply #53 on: 30-January-19, 16:16:24 »

Hello,
EasyBCD display is good and does not correspond to what you show in your previous post.
1/ Uncheck the "Use Metro bootloader" checkbox and save. What do you see now at boot?
2/ Have you changed something in bios parameters? Is "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Mode Select" = "UEFI"? Does "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Option Priorities" correspond to your boot drive?
3/ Enter in Disk Manager and copy the upper part of the window showing all physical disks and partitions.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #54 on: 11-February-19, 16:53:59 »

Hello again,

Sorry for the late reply.
It's a family thing.

I unclicked the Metro Loader and when booting up, came the black screen but with the same other drives like it shows on the Metro Loader.
No, I have not changed the BIOS, only to restore to defaults and change to UEFI setting before I posted the problem.

Here is the screenshot of the requested Disk Managment setup.
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« Reply #55 on: 11-February-19, 17:07:02 »

Hello,
1/ Please, write on the copy of disk manager where is the Windows 10 partition; same for Windows 7.
2/ During post, press <F11>, what have you as choices?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #56 on: 21-February-19, 13:40:43 »

Hi again,

Sorry, I'm slightly confused on what you told me to do.

Write what on what? Do you mean add/change/remove a drive letter and what do you mean during post, you mean when I'm at the BIOS boot startup screen?

Sorry for this as there is a lot going on in my personal life I have not had much time to sort out my PC so understanding Boot startup and everything is sort of fading lol :D
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« Reply #57 on: 21-February-19, 16:02:09 »

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Write what on what?
Take your screen copy, open it in Paint and annotate what is the drive with Windows 7, this with Windows 10 and what is the drive you want to use as boot drive.
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Do you mean add/change/remove a drive letter and what do you mean during post, you mean when I'm at the BIOS boot startup screen?
During boot, just when MSI spash screen displays, press <F11> and take a photo: it will show what devices have a boot loader and what is this selected by default.
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Sorry for this as there is a lot going on in my personal life I have not had much time to sort out my PC
No problem, go back when you will have more time.
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« Reply #58 on: 28-February-19, 13:40:03 »

Hello,Take your screen copy, open it in Paint and annotate what is the drive with Windows 7, this with Windows 10 and what is the drive you want to use as boot drive.During boot, just when MSI spash screen displays, press <F11> and take a photo: it will show what devices have a boot loader and what is this selected by default.No problem, go back when you will have more time.
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Ah.

Samsung SSD (C:) Is my Windows 7 drive.
SSD W10 (E:) Is my Windows 10 drive.

And I'll reply again with a screenshot of my boot menu soon...
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« Reply #59 on: 01-March-19, 16:53:22 »

Hello,
1/ In the list displayed when you press <F11> during post, do you see the SSD with the W10 partition? If yes, when you select it, is the boot menu like this you had at the beginning?
2/ A photo of the list displayed with <F11> should help.
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« Reply #60 on: 04-March-19, 07:18:53 »

Hello,
1/ In the list displayed when you press <F11> during post, do you see the SSD with the W10 partition? If yes, when you select it, is the boot menu like this you had at the beginning?
2/ A photo of the list displayed with <F11> should help.
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« Reply #61 on: 06-March-19, 17:16:35 »

Hello,
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1/ Is Windows 10 on the 860 EVO 1TB?
2/ What do you see if you click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ UEFI Hard Disk Drive BBS priorities?
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« Reply #62 on: 07-March-19, 06:21:54 »

Hello,
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1/ Is Windows 10 on the 860 EVO 1TB?
2/ What do you see if you click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ UEFI Hard Disk Drive BBS priorities?
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1) Yes, same with my Windows 7 as well.
2) Here are the screenshots...
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« Reply #63 on: 07-March-19, 07:00:21 »

Hello,
Good! :biggthumbsup: 
At power on, press <F11> when the MSI logo displays. You would see a menu with the 3 entries shown in your previous post.
1/ Select "Wind... (P1: Samsung...) => How is the start menu?
2/ Redo but select this time "Wind... (P5: ST1000D...) => How is the start menu?
Be cautious, in the 2 cases, if you see a message telling that loader must be repaired, stop by powering off.
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« Reply #64 on: 07-March-19, 15:12:33 »

Hello,
Good! :biggthumbsup:
At power on, press <F11> when the MSI logo displays. You would see a menu with the 3 entries shown in your previous post.
1/ Select "Wind... (P1: Samsung...) => How is the start menu?
2/ Redo but select this time "Wind... (P5: ST1000D...) => How is the start menu?
Be cautious, in the 2 cases, if you see a message telling that loader must be repaired, stop by powering off.
Good luck,
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Hello,

1) The 2TB Samsung is my Windows 7 drive, wouldn't I need to re-select the 1TB drive(Windows 10)?
2) Redo?? And P5: ST1000D drive is just my main storage drive for stuff like pictures, music etc.

And be caustious? :o

I thought I would need to re-arrange the Boot Priorities.
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« Reply #65 on: 07-March-19, 16:51:13 »

1) The 2TB Samsung is my Windows 7 drive, wouldn't I need to re-select the 1TB drive(Windows 10)?
2) Redo?? And P5: ST1000D drive is just my main storage drive for stuff like pictures, music etc.
Yes, I have understood that: SSD 1TB includes the Win10 partition, SSD 2TB includes the Win7 partition and HDD includes the storage partition. Nevertheless, perhaps the Boot Loader partition (EFI) you are using since the beginning is not on the SSD 1TB but on another drive. That is why I have suggested to press [F11] after power on to try another drives's EFI:
- As I can see in the last photo, if you let the pc to start normaly, the EFI used is this on the SSD 1TB (P0).
- If you select the 3rd (P1), the EFI used is this on the SSD 2TB. Do you see only Windows 7 and 10 entries or something else?
- If you select the 2nd (P5), the EFI used is this on the HDD. Do you see only Windows 7 and 10 entries or something else?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #66 on: 11-March-19, 09:15:35 »

Yes, I have understood that: SSD 1TB includes the Win10 partition, SSD 2TB includes the Win7 partition and HDD includes the storage partition. Nevertheless, perhaps the Boot Loader partition (EFI) you are using since the beginning is not on the SSD 1TB but on another drive. That is why I have suggested to press [F11] after power on to try another drives's EFI:
- As I can see in the last photo, if you let the pc to start normaly, the EFI used is this on the SSD 1TB (P0).
- If you select the 3rd (P1), the EFI used is this on the SSD 2TB. Do you see only Windows 7 and 10 entries or something else?
- If you select the 2nd (P5), the EFI used is this on the HDD. Do you see only Windows 7 and 10 entries or something else?
Have a good day,
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Hello again,

I've tried to do you're suggestion but the only options availible in F11 mode are my 1TB Windows 10 drive and the option to "Enter Setup".

Ideas what to do from here?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #67 on: 12-March-19, 05:27:36 »

Hello,
X-((  :think: :think:
1/ In boot menu, when you click on the Windows 7 entry, does Windows 7 start as you want? Same question with Windows 10?
2/ Run EasyBCD, click on "View Settings", extend the window to see all entries in the right panel and do a copy.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #68 on: 16-March-19, 10:37:47 »

Hello,
X-((  :think: :think:
1/ In boot menu, when you click on the Windows 7 entry, does Windows 7 start as you want? Same question with Windows 10?
2/ Run EasyBCD, click on "View Settings", extend the window to see all entries in the right panel and do a copy.
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Hello,

1) Yes, Windows 7 & 10 loads up okay when selected.
2) In "View Settings" it says that there are only two displays. Here is what it says on the right-hand pannel.

"There are a total of 2 entries listed in the bootloader.

Default: Windows 10
Timeout: 30 seconds
EasyBCD Boot Device: C:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 10
BCD ID: {current}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.efi

Entry #2
Name: Windows 7
BCD ID: {81ab9304-f66a-11e8-940c-fadb686bd3df}
Device: \Device\HarddiskVolume8
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.efi
"


I keep thinking the solution might lay in the BIOS menu, in Boot Priorities, I could be wrong.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #69 on: 17-March-19, 08:49:40 »

Hello,
Do a clear CMOS:
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Either
    . short JBAT1 during at least 20s
      (if you have not a jumper cap, use something like a screwdriver but be cautious to touch only the 2 pins of JBAT1) or
    . remove the battery cell during 30mn.
- Plug the power cord and power on.
- You would see a message. Choose to enter in Bios Setup.
   Set "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support" at "Enabled" (or "UEFi").
   Press <F10>, confirm and pc should reboot.
- Enter again in Bios Setup. Goto "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Options Priorities". Disable all except "UEFI Hard Disk" who is set as Boot Option #1.
Result?
Friendly yours,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #70 on: 19-March-19, 12:30:46 »

Hello,
Do a clear CMOS:
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Either
    . short JBAT1 during at least 20s
      (if you have not a jumper cap, use something like a screwdriver but be cautious to touch only the 2 pins of JBAT1) or
    . remove the battery cell during 30mn.
- Plug the power cord and power on.
- You would see a message. Choose to enter in Bios Setup.
   Set "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support" at "Enabled" (or "UEFi").
   Press <F10>, confirm and pc should reboot.
- Enter again in Bios Setup. Goto "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Options Priorities". Disable all except "UEFI Hard Disk" who is set as Boot Option #1.
Result?
Friendly yours,
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Hi again,

Still no result.

The only change is that two have disapeared. The ones still apearing are:
Windows 10
Window 7
Windows Boot Manager (On volume 2)
Windows Boot Manager (On volume 6)

Grr!
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #71 on: 19-March-19, 16:55:15 »

Hello,
2 entries have disappeared so it remains only 2 to suppress; it is an encouraging result! :biggthumbsup:
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Open again Bios Setup. Select "SETTINGS \ Boot \ UEFI Hard Disk Drives BBS Priorities". Disable all except "Windows Boot Manager (P0: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB)" who is set as Boot Option #1.
Result?
Friendly yours,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #72 on: 24-March-19, 11:58:19 »

Hello,
2 entries have disappeared so it remains only 2 to suppress; it is an encouraging result! :biggthumbsup:
:think:
Open again Bios Setup. Select "SETTINGS \ Boot \ UEFI Hard Disk Drives BBS Priorities". Disable all except "Windows Boot Manager (P0: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB)" who is set as Boot Option #1.
Result?
Friendly yours,
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 Hello,

My BIOS already has the Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB as it's only selection.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #73 on: 24-March-19, 16:51:51 »

My BIOS already has the Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB as it's only selection.
And, have you set "Disabled" to all other entries (Boot Option #2 an next), haven't you? Clearly, all entries you see now is the loader menu correspond to those of your previous screen copy:

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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #74 on: 25-March-19, 08:36:36 »

And, have you set "Disabled" to all other entries (Boot Option #2 an next), haven't you? Clearly, all entries you see now is the loader menu correspond to those of your previous screen copy:
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
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Hello,

Yes, the other two are disabled, just P0 that is needed has an option.

Maybe, would updating the motherboard BIOS help or is that pointless?
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #75 on: 26-March-19, 01:58:39 »

Maybe, would updating the motherboard BIOS help or is that pointless?
You have already the last bios retailed version so I would be surprised that its reload will change something. Nevertheless, at this step, the other option is to clear and recreate Windows Loader (BCD database) and I am afraid to do that knowing that you can yet use Windows 7 and Windows 10... So Ok, try to reload it but doing exactly that:
- Download >>Bios V1.G0<<.
- Take an USB pen having no more than 16GB (physical size) with only one partition.
   Verify it with CHKDSK.
- Unzip it and copy the file "E7978IMS.1G0" on the root of the USB pen.
- Boot and enter in Bios Setup. Press [F6], confirm, press [F10] and confirm. Pc should restart.
- Enter again in Bios Setup.
- Plug the USB pen into one port on the back panel (better to use a 2.0).
- Click on M-Flash then select the file on the USB pen.
- M-Flash should start; be cautious to not abort it before the end (can last up to 5mn).
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Enter again in bios setup
  . Enable "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support"
  . Click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Options Priorities" and disable all except "UEFI Hard Disk" who must be set as "Boot Option #1"
  . Same for "UEFI Hard Disk Drives BBS Priorities": disable all except "Windows Boot Manager (P0: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB)"
  (change nothing else for the moment).
Result?
Hoping it shall help,
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #76 on: 30-March-19, 11:30:50 »

You have already the last bios retailed version so I would be surprised that its reload will change something. Nevertheless, at this step, the other option is to clear and recreate Windows Loader (BCD database) and I am afraid to do that knowing that you can yet use Windows 7 and Windows 10... So Ok, try to reload it but doing exactly that:
- Download >>Bios V1.G0<<.
- Take an USB pen having no more than 16GB (physical size) with only one partition.
   Verify it with CHKDSK.
- Unzip it and copy the file "E7978IMS.1G0" on the root of the USB pen.
- Boot and enter in Bios Setup. Press [F6], confirm, press [F10] and confirm. Pc should restart.
- Enter again in Bios Setup.
- Plug the USB pen into one port on the back panel (better to use a 2.0).
- Click on M-Flash then select the file on the USB pen.
- M-Flash should start; be cautious to not abort it before the end (can last up to 5mn).
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Enter again in bios setup
  . Enable "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support"
  . Click on "SETTINGS \ Boot \ Boot Options Priorities" and disable all except "UEFI Hard Disk" who must be set as "Boot Option #1"
  . Same for "UEFI Hard Disk Drives BBS Priorities": disable all except "Windows Boot Manager (P0: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB)"
  (change nothing else for the moment).
Result?
Hoping it shall help,
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Hello, sorry for long wait.

If updating the MB is pointless I won't do it, especaily when you sound worried by saying you're worried to do so. Why? Would I lose data?

Either way, if there is a chance of something going wrong, I don't want to take the risk. Sorry.
I hope you have other ideas.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #77 on: 30-March-19, 12:52:37 »

If updating the MB is pointless I won't do it, especaily when you sound worried by saying you're worried to do so. Why? Would I lose data?
No, it is not the reload of bios who worry me. Do it (but follow exactly what I explained) and we will see if it resolves your problem...
It is the other suggest who worry me: erase the BCD then recreate it. It is not really riskly but must be done step by step with caution.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #78 on: 03-April-19, 12:14:01 »

No, it is not the reload of bios who worry me. Do it (but follow exactly what I explained) and we will see if it resolves your problem...
It is the other suggest who worry me: erase the BCD then recreate it. It is not really riskly but must be done step by step with caution.
Friendly yours,
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 Would removing the letters from the Drives fix it just out of curiousity?

I looked on Disk Management and both drives have a letter.
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Re: B150A Gaming Pro MB - Run two OS's??
« Reply #79 on: 03-April-19, 16:19:05 »

Would removing the letters from the Drives fix it just out of curiousity?
I looked on Disk Management and both drives have a letter.
No, it will not! Boot drives listed in Windows Loader and those shown in Windows Explorer (because they have a letter) are managed differently.
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