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Topic,  using R9 series GPU cards new in old PCs. (this Decade only)
say PCs with G2  CORE,  like i7-2600 based PC and Q77 chip set like a 2012 made Dell Optiplex 7010 MT full sized PC desktop.  (a pc with no form of UEFI at all)
The rumors I hear from some so called pros a dell , tell me R9 will not work in any legacy PC DELL.  (not withstanding buggy Vbios back in w8 2014 year.) Just new cards old PC.
any truth to that  rumor, most or all fail?
(I know you can't speak for DELL but my guesting really is about all PCs, made in last Decade (desktops only) and all brands. surely MSI GPU don't only work on MSI MOBO)
My guess is all R9 now work on legacy PC made this decade. (for sure would be wise intent by MSI) but  IDK for sure.
I'm sure some PCs made ,the mobo BIOS will not like some VBIOS but exceptions are expected.
forgive me if on wrong topic section and my first post.  (a retired tech)
thanks for any help at all.  best wishes to all.
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A pure legacy vbios works fine with a UEFI vbios (as it is hybrid and can work in legacy and UEFI mode). It can only be a problem on boards with UEFI bios but not being GOP compliant.

What exact graphics card is it (full model)?
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thanks for your help.
So all new MSI GPU card all mandate GOP ,  (so if no GOP BIOS in your PC your lose)
That means a vast number OEM PCs 2013 are now with no GPU upgrade paths?   only 6 years old?>
GOP ends VGA BIOS , I get that, but why not offer cards that work with VGA or a BIOS firmware downgrade.?  so people with a super legacy (LOL) 6 year old PC and buy a new card.
Surely there is market of the 2014 hybrid cards sold then, no?  
I guess the answer is , find only PCs that have BIOS upgrade to GOP, or GPU  upgrades are DOA.
sorry I do not understand MSI policy on GPU cards at all.
and thanks Again.
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Seems you have not understood what I said at all.

It does not matter if a UEFI vbios or a legacy vbios is used on a mainboard with pure legacy bios. Both will work. The problem can only affects later mainboards with a UEFI bios that is not yet GOP compliant. For you it is irrelevant what vbios the graphics card uses. Your DELL mainboard still might have compatibility issues but that is up to DELL.

Besides it is up to AMD or Nvidia which generation legacy and/or UEFI vbios are offered for. For RX 5xx grpahics cards for example no legacy vbios exists no matter if it is MSi or any other manufacturer. There is no MSI policy.

 
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THANKS ! and very very clear
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my mistake is not reading all your posts... (blush):bonk:  the below link is GOLD.!
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=282336.0

i think many PC owners (builders,etc) get confused,:think: and say their MOBO BIOS is not UEFI,  and is, for sure, it's ONLY turned off, (not GONE)  and they boot to say MBR HHD0.,,
same with CSM turned on. (it's still a UEFI PC)

"Saying that a UEFI/GOP vbios using card will not work on a legacy bios board is plain wrong"

THANKS FOR SAYING THAT, and now I know why most get confused, due to their  OLD 2012 PC has newer flashed BIOS and is UEFI +GOP ready, and they don't know it. (and the dell Assistant engine, updates it automatically, case in point)
this web site is super good,  unlike any other I have seen,  thanks for the support !!!!:agrees:
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Corsair H110 Liquid CPU Cooler
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