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I've been made aware that MSI engineers are working on improving BIOSes in the upcoming days.
Also due to fault at source (AMD's AGESA), it is not always possible to get things right if the main source is screwed up.
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Under BIOS v2.9o, for whatever reason, the CPU refuses to post when there's 2 sticks of memory installed.  It gives CPU Debug LED warning and just sits there w/ power on but never POSTs.

I assume if the CPU was fine w/ 2 sticks in v2.9M (at least to POST with), its a BIOS problem and not a borked CPU memory controller

Assuming MSI is to blame here seems a safe bet.

Update:  i did a little poking around, and it was suggested the "only POSTing with one stick of RAM" problem was caused by bad CPU seating and/or bent pins

I pulled the CPU and indeed, a couple of pins were bent, and the seating was 'sticky'.  I gently ran some paper between pins (didn't really help, but maybe very slightly unbent 1)

Reseated it, and its now a-ok with 2 sticks of RAM.

So, NOT MSI's fault here.  I think the CPU had some bent pins out of the box tbh, or possibly the mobo has a wonky socket.

hoping to never have to do that again
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I pulled the CPU and indeed, a couple of pins were bent, and the seating was 'sticky'.  I gently ran some paper between pins (didn't really help, but maybe very slightly unbent 1)

use a razor blade/hobby knife - it's firmer, and because of this, you're more likely to be successful in straightening all the affected pins, since you can use the already straight ones to "lean" the tool against. Just be careful not to slice into the substrate.

I did this when I dropped my R5 1600 and bent a bunch of pins. Worked a treat.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #303 on: 27-July-19, 06:16:07 »

About to BIOS update my new B450 Carbon Pro AC the problem is I have two to choose from. The second looks like the most recent but is there a preference I should use?

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (BIOS : 7B85v17M CheckSum: E76A)
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
-  Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3
-  Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.
-  Change BIOS UI to GSE-Lite mode.
3. 2019/6/24

Or

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B85) V1.7 BIOS Release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
-  Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3ab
-  Fix RAID issue.
-  Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.
Ryzen 9 3900X/Ryzen 7 3800X/Ryzen 7 3700X/Ryzen 5 3600X/Ryzen 5 3600/Ryzen 5 3400G/Ryzen 3 3200G
-  Change BIOS UI to Click BIOS(GSE-Lite) mode.
3. 2019/7/10
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #304 on: 28-July-19, 12:07:43 »

Nichrome is there any time estimation when MSI will release the stable bios?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #305 on: 28-July-19, 15:14:21 »

Nichrome is there any time estimation when MSI will release the stable bios?
No.
For a stable BIOS to be released to the public (and to be used as Mass Production version) it takes a while, including documentation and testing.
BETA BIOS are being provided "as it is", being in the "usable" form without any warranty it'll work.
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Nichrome is there any time estimation when MSI will release the stable bios?

MSI doesn't share timelines, even with us.
We know exactly as much as you do about 'when' they will release any given BIOS. 

Rarely are we given any time frames on when any BIOS's will be released. 

At this point, given AMD's inability to provide good AGESA code half the time, I wouldn't hold your breath on a new BIOS. If AMD is having issues....we can only imagine what the OEM's are going through to get working BIOS's.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #307 on: 29-July-19, 04:08:16 »

thanks for the info.

i just saw that MSI remove the beta bios for the ""X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM"" and i guess its for all who have this beta BIOSes

i wounder why, maybe they found a serious bug.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #308 on: 29-July-19, 05:30:39 »

thanks for the info.

i just saw that MSI remove the beta bios for the ""X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM"" and i guess its for all who have this beta BIOSes

i wounder why, maybe they found a serious bug.

They've also removed the official BIOS for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon. I mean, I know it's a bit buggy, but to remove the ability for people to upgrade to Ryzen 3000 at all? Not cool.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #309 on: 29-July-19, 05:48:55 »

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MSI just silently has removed the last BETA BIOS without any word..... outrageous!!
The main problem is even not issues with BIOSes, the main problem is lack of communication between MSI and customers..... the worst of the worst support.....
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #311 on: 29-July-19, 08:57:50 »

About to BIOS update my new B450 Carbon Pro AC the problem is I have two to choose from. The second looks like the most recent but is there a preference I should use?

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (BIOS : 7B85v17M CheckSum: E76A)
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
-  Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3
-  Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.
-  Change BIOS UI to GSE-Lite mode.
3. 2019/6/24

Or

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B85) V1.7 BIOS Release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
-  Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3ab
-  Fix RAID issue.
-  Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.
Ryzen 9 3900X/Ryzen 7 3800X/Ryzen 7 3700X/Ryzen 5 3600X/Ryzen 5 3600/Ryzen 5 3400G/Ryzen 3 3200G
-  Change BIOS UI to Click BIOS(GSE-Lite) mode.
3. 2019/7/10

Got my b450 carbon pro to boot after first trying the latest beta (2019/7/10 agesa combo 1.0.0.3ab) twice (doing cmos clear before and after each time) with no luck. Red cpu led always came on. I was about to give up for the night and decided to give the previous beta (2019/6/24 agesa combo 1.0.0.3) and it worked first time.

*Formatting the usb drive with rufus was the only way the flashback would recognise the update.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #312 on: 29-July-19, 09:31:47 »

Ugh,

Are they doing their best to freak us out ??

Im currently running on the beta bios that was pulled (X370 Titanium).

Im really hoping that they are in the process of uploading either a non-beta BIOS or a new beta BIOS and not that the beta BIOS they uploaded is killling hardware.

:/

Currently running prime95 v29.8 build 5, Large FFTs @ 3800/1900 16-15-15-15-35-89-666-1T at 1.45v, all other settings at default.

Under my custom loop the CPU is pegged at 4200mhz all core overclock.

AIDA64 memory latency is at 64ns

Both DDR sticks (b-die) DIMM temperatures peaking at 47-48C
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #313 on: 29-July-19, 10:10:03 »

Ugh,

Are they doing their best to freak us out ??

Im currently running on the beta bios that was pulled (X370 Titanium).

Im really hoping that they are in the process of uploading either a non-beta BIOS or a new beta BIOS and not that the beta BIOS they uploaded is killling hardware.

:/

Currently running prime95 v29.8 build 5, Large FFTs @ 3800/1900 16-15-15-15-35-89-666-1T at 1.45v, all other settings at default.

Under my custom loop the CPU is pegged at 4200mhz all core overclock.

AIDA64 memory latency is at 64ns

Both DDR sticks (b-die) DIMM temperatures peaking at 47-48C

i have the same board like you and 3900x but 
i want to ask you if you have any problems after you update to the beta? (i have the beta bios but i didn't do the update because i'm waiting to the stable one).



 
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #314 on: 29-July-19, 10:17:40 »

i have the same board like you and 3900x but
i want to ask you if you have any problems after you update to the beta? (i have the beta bios but i didn't do the update because i'm waiting to the stable one).

Hi!

read here

https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1624134-official-msi-x370-xpower-gaming-titanium-am4-owners-club-111.html#post28062448

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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #315 on: 29-July-19, 10:40:12 »

They've also removed the official BIOS for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon. I mean, I know it's a bit buggy, but to remove the ability for people to upgrade to Ryzen 3000 at all? Not cool.

If you followed the Beta Bios link at the top of the page, they had replaced v.2.9m with v2.9o the same day they pretended 2.9o was "official release" 

(iow, it was the same bios being made available as "beta" as well as "official" at the same time; this was the case for all of last week, basically)

So you can still get v2.9o now, just only w/ the caveat 'its a beta'

Its working OK for me, fwiw; some minor oddness here and there (boost clocks are a little lower than advertised, ryzen master is mostly Nerfed, some instability w/ monitoring/diagnostics apps causing blue screens, etc) but otherwise usable.
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If you followed the Beta Bios link at the top of the page, they had replaced v.2.9m with v2.9o the same day they pretended 2.9o was "official release"

(iow, it was the same bios being made available as "beta" as well as "official" at the same time; this was the case for all of last week, basically)

So you can still get v2.9o now, just only w/ the caveat 'its a beta'

Its working OK for me, fwiw; some minor oddness here and there (boost clocks are a little lower than advertised, ryzen master is mostly Nerfed, some instability w/ monitoring/diagnostics apps causing blue screens, etc) but otherwise usable.


That's not correct. The 29M (beta) and 29 (official) BIOSes for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon were quite different, but for reasons known only to MSI, the archives had the same file name.  But it doesn't matter, because on the official support page, the download link has been removed. The download link on the blog post at the top of this thread now just points to the official support page. Which doesn't have a BIOS newer than March 2019.

I mean, it shouldn't bother me since I already got the update... but I just bought one of these boards to upgrade a bandmate's PC with. It's a good thing I'm the one doing this, since I already have the file. What would anyone else do?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #317 on: 30-July-19, 14:28:05 »

 The download link on the blog post at the top of this thread now just points to the official support page.

At the time I wrote the above post, the beta bios download link on the blog post linked to the file named "7B78v29" which had the v.2.9o BIOS (previously 'official')

You're right, they've since changed that and now it just links to the support page, but for a while it was still available.
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what  Idon't get is why the've pulled it for some boards, but not others... and as far as I can tell, there's zero communication about it. Tell us what's going on, people!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #319 on: 31-July-19, 12:42:07 »

what  Idon't get is why the've pulled it for some boards, but not others... and as far as I can tell, there's zero communication about it. Tell us what's going on, people!


Yeah, even if you give them benefit of the doubt over things like AMD's AGESA being hinky, or that problems like i had (only booting w/ 1 stick of RAM) are often user-error, and that half the complaints about BIOS problems are just teething-issues with new tech...

...this thing where their Beta BIOS link just sends you in an endless loop back to the 'official support' page? is just outright incompetence and bad customer support.

If there's no Ryzen 3000-compatible beta currently being distributed for the X470 GPC, they shouldn't have a link pretending there is.  It just makes things worse.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #320 on: 31-July-19, 15:47:50 »

Any news about new BIOSes for 3xx and 4xx? All vendors have released 1.0.0.3 already except MSI, they just silently removed even BETA BIOSes (released about a month ago) from support pages.....
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Hi

Those boards should've received an update /  are due to receive shortly:
1.B450M MORTAR  e.g. => >>CLICK<<
Description
- Support ComboPI 1.0.0.3ab
- Support OC Profile
- Improve memory compatibility

2.B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
3.B450 TOMAHAWK
4.B450M MORTAR TITANIUM
5.X470 GAMING PLUS
6. B450-A PRO MAX
7. B450M MORTAR
8. B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
Make sure you check BIOS notes on your board's page.
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« Reply #322 on: 31-July-19, 20:22:05 »

 on the official support page, the download link has been removed. The download link on the blog post at the top of this thread now just points to the official support page. Which doesn't have a BIOS newer than March 2019.

I mean, it shouldn't bother me since I already got the update... but I just bought one of these boards to upgrade a bandmate's PC with. It's a good thing I'm the one doing this, since I already have the file. What would anyone else do?

In case anyone else didn't notice (i didn't) - the offical support page for X470 Gaming Pro Carbon has no BIOS newer than v.2.8 (March 2019)... and the link on that same page to "Beta BIOS support" goes to ... another link to back to the official support page, suggesting there's no compatible bios available at the moment.

But there is:  if you ignore the normal BIOS download page, and instead go to "Compatibility" (where you'd normally find the QVL lists for RAM for different processors), and hit the CPU tab...

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO-CARBON#support-cpu

There are links to the beta 2.9 bios versions there available to download.  

(*Amusingly enough, the link is labeled E7B78AMS.29M but the file contains the 2.9o BIOS... which, at least in my experience, worked better)

I presume even MSI may have forgotten about this, given they nixed the same files from the official download page.
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« Reply #323 on: 01-August-19, 00:00:38 »

*correction: they've now moved x470 GOC BIOS v2.9o back to the official support page

no changes at all for 2 weeks, despite all their juggling around of the file-availability since then
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« Reply #324 on: 01-August-19, 00:11:01 »

*correction: they've now moved x470 GOC BIOS v2.9o back to the official support page

no changes at all for 2 weeks, despite all their juggling around of the file-availability since then


Which is to say:  still only 8x on the PCI bus
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #325 on: 01-August-19, 01:50:29 »

The same beta BIOS is back up on the x370 titanium page.

Really unsure what they are up to ?

Maybe they are just having technical issues with their websites

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Make sure you use Global region for latest / with least delay updates. That gets all the updates first.

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« Reply #327 on: 03-August-19, 07:20:23 »


To make you all aware:
Using different region settings will impact on what you see.
Make sure you use Global region for latest / with least delay updates. That gets all the updates first.


I didn't even know it was possible to change regions on the website?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #328 on: 03-August-19, 11:06:57 »

they still didn't released the x370 stable bios . 

anyone heard a word about it ??
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« Reply #329 on: 03-August-19, 17:52:18 »

they still didn't released the x370 stable bios .

anyone heard a word about it ??

Litterally 15 posts above you I posted that MSI doesn't share timelines, not even with the moderators.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=320889.msg1834769#msg1834769
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #330 on: 04-August-19, 00:12:25 »

I've been made aware that MSI engineers are working on improving BIOSes in the upcoming days.
Also due to fault at source (AMD's AGESA), it is not always possible to get things right if the main source is screwed up.


Thank you for sharing this.

I'd like to report that 7A40vA8 (for MSI's B450I Gaming Plus AC) is down right amazing

I'm now able to fully OC my RAM with no issues what so ever. I strongly recommend users of the B450I upgrade to 7A40vA8
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #331 on: 04-August-19, 00:24:40 »

near a month now and nothing for the x470 m7 ac bios, its a disgrace, ill be jumping ship asap, and wont touch msi again,

with such heat in my country and the voltages ramped high, instability and a not fully functioning bios, its just not acceptable.


What CPU are you using? I believe other users have reported that the m7 AC does have a stable bios that supports Matisse just fine.  I strongly recommend you go through this entire thread. Several users have posted several helpful tips. In fact, I think someone here was able to undervolt their 3900x withought having any performance penalties.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #332 on: 05-August-19, 02:02:17 »


Which is to say:  still only 8x on the PCI bus

E7B78AMS.2A1 beta bios, you could check if 8x problem could be solve or not.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj5r1zef5gy45vk/E7B78AMS2A1.rar?dl=0
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #333 on: 05-August-19, 06:48:43 »

E7B78AMS.2A1 beta bios, you could check if 8x problem could be solve or not.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj5r1zef5gy45vk/E7B78AMS2A1.rar?dl=0

It looks to be solved. Thank you, anonymous benefactor! I'm yet to try any overclocking though; .290 was dreadful for that.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #334 on: 05-August-19, 10:17:19 »

It looks to be solved. Thank you, anonymous benefactor! I'm yet to try any overclocking though; .290 was dreadful for that.

x470 Garming Pro Carbon? If so... nice! I'm suffering that issue aswell. 

Will wait for non-beta as x8 doesn't seem to bottleneck my 1080gtx..
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #335 on: 05-August-19, 15:12:53 »

E7B78AMS.2A1 beta bios, you could check if 8x problem could be solve or not.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj5r1zef5gy45vk/E7B78AMS2A1.rar?dl=0


Thank you i'll give it a try
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #336 on: 05-August-19, 18:13:59 »

E7B78AMS.2A1 beta bios, you could check if 8x problem could be solve or not.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj5r1zef5gy45vk/E7B78AMS2A1.rar?dl=0

I can also confirm the 2A1 BIOS does fix the x8 limitation on the PCI bus for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #337 on: 06-August-19, 04:05:15 »

I believe 1 month after the release day, should be enough to provide release quality BIOSes for all AM4 motherboards.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #338 on: 06-August-19, 06:44:23 »

I believe 1 month after the release day, should be enough to provide release quality BIOSes for all AM4 motherboards.
Good luck with that. When MSI has over 50 boards :rolleyes:
Also loads of issues are caused by the source (AMD).
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #339 on: 06-August-19, 07:07:36 »

I can also confirm the 2A1 BIOS does fix the x8 limitation on the PCI bus for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon

Does this version still comes with the gray interface? Do you think it is stable enough for daily use?

I'm currently on x470 gaming pro carbon (bios 29m) with r7 3700x. my main problems: pci express locked on 8x and my rams have 75ns latency.

It's almost perfectly stable but I'm not much happy with the interface and I believe my nvme drive has a weird performance. Would it worth a try?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #340 on: 06-August-19, 07:48:16 »

Does this version still comes with the gray interface? Do you think it is stable enough for daily use?

Yes to both. Again, I've not done any overclocking besides setting the Infinity Fabric to 1800MHz (a 0.66:1 ratio with my RAM). But you're going to be stuck with the ugly interface for the fosreeable future as it was a necessary sacrifice to get Ryzen 2000 support.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #341 on: 07-August-19, 02:05:42 »

Does this version still comes with the gray interface? Do you think it is stable enough for daily use?

I'm currently on x470 gaming pro carbon (bios 29m) with r7 3700x. my main problems: pci express locked on 8x and my rams have 75ns latency.

It's almost perfectly stable but I'm not much happy with the interface and I believe my nvme drive has a weird performance. Would it worth a try?
Suggest you to try it only if you facing some trouble, but if you think your system is already stable enough then no need to bother updating to new bios.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #342 on: 08-August-19, 09:28:31 »

I have a regular MSI B450M Mortar motherboard (that I unfortunately bought recently, just before the MAX-model was released). If I update the BIOS, what difference is it compared to the new MSI B450M Mortar MAX motherboard that got extra memory for the BIOS? Thanks.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #343 on: 08-August-19, 10:43:13 »

AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB coming to older boards? (other manufacturers already pushed it as beta 2 days ago)
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #344 on: 08-August-19, 12:25:02 »

Anyone using BIOS v2A1 or 2A0 (the official version of same) on X470 Gaming Pro Carbon :

try loading a saved profile in MSI Command Center

instant reboot?  I assume there would be a dialogue before the computer automatically shuts off.

It also, as far as i can tell, doesn't load any profile; it just instacrashes
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #345 on: 09-August-19, 01:00:53 »

If I update the BIOS of my regular MSI B450M Mortar motherboard (not the MAX-model!), does it support higher DDR4-speeds than specified then? Specification says,
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Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 3466(OC) MHz

MSI B450M Mortar MAX motherboard specification says,
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Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 4133(OC) MHz

Thanks in advance
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #346 on: 09-August-19, 05:58:05 »

AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB coming to older boards? (other manufacturers already pushed it as beta 2 days ago)

You have bought MSI, so the delay will be a month or even a few. MSI customer must suffer.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #347 on: 09-August-19, 07:08:10 »

You have bought MSI, so the delay will be a month or even a few. MSI customer must suffer.

Are you srsly? I have here a X470 Pro Gaming and not having the new AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB meaning no Linux Distribution can boot.


It stuck on systemd due to RdRand problems. I have contacted AMD regarding this issue and their technical support claims AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB should fix this.


This means i can't use msi mainboard until .. what next month? this is hilarious.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cmza34/agesa_1003_abb_fixes_rdrandrdseed/
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Last month there were some motherboard makers that enabled PCI Express 4.0 support on 400-series motherboards. This was against the wishes of AMD, who wants to keep PCI Express 4.0 exclusively for 500-series chipsets to ensure "everything just works" because not every 400-series motherboard can support it.
AMD's new AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB microcode update contains measures to prevent PCI Express 4.0 from being activated on older chipsets.
https://www.dvhardware.net/article71365.html

That was a bit of a douchy thing to do of AMD.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #349 on: 09-August-19, 08:17:40 »

Are you srsly? I have here a X470 Pro Gaming and not having the new AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB meaning no Linux Distribution can boot.
No it was obvious sarcasm. Thing is, if its beta then just drop it with warning that stuff may not work.
Only outdated distributions can't boot, there is already a workaround for that behavior in systemd.
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