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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #250 on: 16-July-19, 06:24:40 »

Everything looks fine, except PCIe mode. I have Adata NVM ssd, with the same issue.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #251 on: 17-July-19, 01:27:58 »

With X470 Gaming Pro Carbon and 3800x I am only seeing 8x GPU PCI-E link speed. No other slots besides the M.2 is populated. M.2 is operating at 4x as expected.

This is the only real issue i'm seeing thus far.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #252 on: 17-July-19, 04:21:32 »

Hello ! I just tried to flash BETA BIOS on my B450 Carbon Pro AC, but it blinks just 3 times and the led goes off (also blinks 3 time with no usb stick inserted). I can power on the computer, but keyboard and graphic card don't work.
I suppose that my USB stick is just not detected, I'll get another one soon. Can anyone confirm that my mobo isn't just dead and that this is 'normal' ? ^^"
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #253 on: 17-July-19, 07:38:59 »

Hello! I just tried to flash BETA BIOS on my B450 Carbon Pro AC, but it blinks just 3 times and the led goes off (also blinks 3 time with no usb stick inserted). I can power on the computer, but the keyboard and graphic card don't work. I suppose that my USB stick is just not detected, I'll get another one soon. Can anyone confirm that my mobo isn't just dead and that this is 'normal' ? ^^"

Hey just wanted to tell that I had the same issue and looks like the problem is in the cluster size of the flash drive. For whatever reason it's readable only with 32 block division. Format the drive and copy the BIOS file there and it should read it without issues. Got my CPU to work, but on the stable release of the BIOS, there are no overclocking options available for the CPU and any changes to the RAM except XMP profile crashes the system.
Same thing in the ryzen master and MSI control center even if its a 30 Mhz change. Did windows push some update or is this MSI doing? Or just something wrong with my system? Can anyone confirm?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #254 on: 17-July-19, 07:54:32 »

i Have the B450 Mortar,and i have tried 3 different usb sticks, nothing works. every time i try to flash bios it just blink red 3 times and nothig else happens. looks like i have to buy an old ryzen cpu just to update my mobo and use my cpu. I am pretty anoyed that nothing works!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #255 on: 18-July-19, 01:01:44 »

Hello ! I just tried to flash BETA BIOS on my B450 Carbon Pro AC, but it blinks just 3 times and the led goes off (also blinks 3 time with no usb stick inserted). I can power on the computer, but keyboard and graphic card don't work.
I suppose that my USB stick is just not detected, I'll get another one soon. Can anyone confirm that my mobo isn't just dead and that this is 'normal' ? ^^"
Do you mean  your USB stick not detected in Flashback ??   note that flashback only support FAT32 and don't support NTFS
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #256 on: 18-July-19, 05:02:34 »

With X470 Gaming Pro Carbon and 3800x I am only seeing 8x GPU PCI-E link speed. No other slots besides the M.2 is populated. M.2 is operating at 4x as expected.

This is the only real issue i'm seeing thus far.
Hello, have you checked in Windows: TechPowerup GPU-Z --> Bus Interface: What does it day?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #257 on: 18-July-19, 08:56:58 »

Do we have any news about a stable release date?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #258 on: 18-July-19, 09:14:44 »

Do we have any news about a stable release date?

Check ur mobo support page. I got stable update to my B450I Gaming Plus AC and pcie error is fixed.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #259 on: 18-July-19, 09:44:40 »

The latest bios for MSI B450 Gaming Plus AC is fantastic! M2 drive is now detected as PCIE x4, XMP works cleanly, and I get a 100% boot up rate on a 3900x so far.

Fantastic work, MSI. Thanks!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #260 on: 18-July-19, 10:20:53 »

Updated X470 Pro Carbon to 29M beta bios, installed 3700x,  it posted OK and recognized the chip and all the attached hardware (including M.2 NVME boot drive)...

...however, for whatever reason, windows will not fully boot to NVME.  I've tried every combo of settings for UEFI and CSM, enabled and disabled various other features to see if it would affect ability to read disk, but whenever Windows boots, its just an endless spinning wheel (or every 3rd boot attempt, "automatic repair mode")

It WILL (strangely?) boot into safe mode.  But very unstable; opening various files in safe mode causes insta-crash.

Not sure what the issue is, whether its the BIOS or the Chip or what.  

Is it something to do w/ RAID being disabled on the beta BIOS?  (i know 1 NVME doesn't need to be set as RAID to boot, but i've seen discussions in past which suggested RAID capability was needed to run NVME as UEFI boot device)

Any thoughts?  In the meantime I'm moving back to old v. 28 BIOS and 2600 chip until new, stable BIOS is released, but am interested in any comments re: NVME boot issues b/c im pretty new to using them and suspect this may involve some user error.

Thanks
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #261 on: 18-July-19, 10:32:43 »

The Beta-Bios works [on X470 GPC] with my 2600 but the 3700x doesn't boot at all. Like others mentioned the EZ Debug CPU LED stays on and my monitor doesn't receive a signal.
On my dad's B450 Gaming Plus on BIOS 7B86v18 the 3700x boots just fine.
I guess we have to wait for the final BIOS on the x470 GPC.

I have not seen any debug LEDs, but this is basically my same experience; same settings in BIOS allow 2600 to boot in v.29M, but not the 3700x

Perhaps my problem isn't the NVME issue at all
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #262 on: 18-July-19, 12:16:14 »

Ryzen 3700x [font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", "Liberation Sans", "Nimbus Sans L", Arial, sans-serif]B450 Pro Carbon running the beta bios.[/font]

I'm having trouble changing the voltage on the CPU, it's running way too high, its in the 1.45-1.48 area. I read that the new 570 motherboards were doing this out of the box, so it sucks to see that mine is doing the same. It's an easy fix, but I can't seem to figure out the new beta bios to adjust the voltage? Any help would be appreciated!!!
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Ryzen 3700x B450 Pro Carbon running the beta bios.

I'm having trouble changing the voltage on the CPU, it's running way too high, its in the 1.45-1.48 area. I read that the new 570 motherboards were doing this out of the box, so it sucks to see that mine is doing the same. It's an easy fix, but I can't seem to figure out the new beta bios to adjust the voltage? Any help would be appreciated!!!

For me, I had to set the cpu voltage to override mode, then highlight where it said "auto", and use the +/- keys to actually adjust it.

I'm wondering if maybe that shouldn't just be left at 1.5v anyway. Someone from AMD posted on reddit about it.
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No worries:



And for all the naysayers who think the BIOS isn't shoving 1.5v (1.488v, whatever) though the chip by default:



Thank you for taking the time in doing so. Have you noticed any loss in single core performance when going town to 1.3? On my end, I do, big time (any sort of undervolting for that matter).

That said, I'd like to report that the B450I Gaming Plus AC motherboard's bios for Ryzen 3000 support is no longer in beta...and its much worse than the beta one (at least for me) what was previously a stable 2667MHz overclock on my memory bricked my motherboard with this latest update. Had to clear the CMOS, fixed the issue, but still, any sort of overclock on the memory will make my system unstable and wont let me boot unless I clear CMOS.
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Thanks for the help! It worked, and it killed my performance! I changed it to about 1.375v and it wouldn’t boost past 3.6ghz! It was boosting to 4.3 with the high voltage. I changed it back to “default”. But I’m worried about leaving at that voltage long term.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #266 on: 18-July-19, 21:27:46 »

It worked, and it killed my performance!

Right, I think at this point its the overall consensus. What power plan are you using? Leveling with you I selected the Ryzen High performance, and honestly dont see it spike to 1.5v all that much in CPU-Z (forgot to add, I enabled COOL n QUIET in CPU Features, I think thats where that option was... it does seem to help I think)
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #267 on: 19-July-19, 02:35:34 »

Thanks for the help! It worked, and it killed my performance! I changed it to about 1.375v and it wouldn’t boost past 3.6ghz! It was boosting to 4.3 with the high voltage. I changed it back to “default”. But I’m worried about leaving at that voltage long term.



Set negative offset voltage at 0,05-0,075. After that check voltage in CPU-Z and run cinebench or aniother cpu benchmark. If cpu isn't stable cinebench score is significantly below 4700 pts
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Have you noticed any loss in single core performance when going town to 1.3? On my end, I do, big time (any sort of undervolting for that matter).

Not at all. I can actually get down to 1.1v and still get 4.4GHz base clock!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #270 on: 19-July-19, 09:43:28 »

Hi, there is a B450I GAMING PLUS AC motherboard, updated to version E7A40AMS.A7M, the motherboard sees the Ryzen 3600. When the system is turned on, the black screen hangs for about 30 seconds, then the system restarts and Win 10 starts up without any problems. So the problem in certain settings of BIOS or the reason is that just a beta version? I will be grateful for your response!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #272 on: 19-July-19, 22:33:01 »

I don't think any MSI board BIOS's been released using 1.0.0.3aba... so kind of a non-issue?

As far as I'm aware.....no BIOS's with that were released publicly, beta or otherwise....so yes, non-issue.

But again....this has nothing to do with MSI overall. It's AMD screwing up....again....
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Cannot play Destiny 2 if using a Ryzen 3000 CPU.
« Reply #273 on: 20-July-19, 20:55:38 »

Destiny 2 will not start if you are using a Ryzen 3000 series cpu. Bungie announced the issue was a bios issue and provided a fix to motherboard partners. Does MSI have an idea when a fix will roll out?
@askbungie twitter
https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1149786883712376832
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Re: Cannot play Destiny 2 if using a Ryzen 3000 CPU.
« Reply #274 on: 21-July-19, 00:53:29 »

Destiny 2 will not start if you are using a Ryzen 3000 series cpu. Bungie announced the issue was a bios issue and provided a fix to motherboard partners. Does MSI have an idea when a fix will roll out?
@askbungie twitter
https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1149786883712376832

No one here will have any clue. None at all.
Contact MSI directly. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<

It's also dependent on AMD putting out updated (and correct, non-buggy) AGESA code as well.

All I can say is good luck there.....given their history.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #275 on: 21-July-19, 13:21:53 »

B450 Gaming Plus. Flashback function didn't work at all with 3 usb drives to update bios. Error showed 3 red blinks. First i installed 7B86v18 manually through bios using my Ryzen 1600 processor. After putting all components together my PC don't even post with Ryzen 3600. I tried so many variants to fix this but nothing help. It works only when i put back my Ryzen 1600. 
Emailed tech support. I think this problem accure to AGESA 1.0.0.3 without AB in the end. I hope new BIOS will help me..
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #276 on: 22-July-19, 02:27:15 »

I'm on X370 Gaming Pro Carbon and testet "7A32v1NP(Beta version)" with a 1600X.
After I finished testing, I wanted to flash back to previous version of the BIOS, using M-Flash. It was successfull, but it took 10  hours to complete flashing! I got 1% progress every 6-10min :shocked:

Also, something which isn't directly related to the newest BIOS, because it seems to happen also in the older one.
Why is the BIOS putting all FANs to 100% once the CPU reaches 81°C ? I've configured the FAN curves myself and if it would respect my config, the FANs wouldn't go the 100%, but the board overrules me in this specific case. I really don't like this behaviour. I want to decide myself how the FANs are working.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #277 on: 22-July-19, 08:53:39 »

For those who are using x470 Gaming Pro Carbon, i see that today MSI apperently updated the beta bios from ComboPI1.0.0.3a to ComboPI1.0.0.3ab (note the "b")
As for now, i am not able to test as i have no CPU to put in and add the bios.
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The update for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon just points to the same file on the server as the beta. If the update does exist, we can't download it right now.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #279 on: 22-July-19, 11:54:04 »

The update for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon just points to the same file on the server as the beta. If the update does exist, we can't download it right now.
I not sure how they do it, but at support page does change..tough i see that file is same. I supose they save over the same file and simple update THAT. Unless im mistaken here.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #280 on: 22-July-19, 13:09:30 »

The update for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon just points to the same file on the server as the beta. If the update does exist, we can't download it right now.

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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #281 on: 22-July-19, 14:15:03 »

Not sure what happening, now the support page show that... it isnt a beta file anymore..  7B78v29 (x470 gaming pro carbon)
But same file as beta ?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #282 on: 22-July-19, 15:34:37 »

It's because they didn't upload anything new. It's the same exact 29M BIOS file as before, CRC32 and all.

I'm getting fairly frustrated at MSI at this point, and likely won't buy them again. We are sitting on a BIOS that is a month old at this point with substantial bugs such as the GPU PCI-E slot being stuck in 8x mode.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #283 on: 22-July-19, 20:20:16 »

23 days from BETA bios build data, and still no stable BIOS releases. It is, however, well known that nothing lasts longer than the temporary.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #284 on: 22-July-19, 22:39:23 »

Not sure what happening, now the support page show that... it isnt a beta file anymore..  7B78v29 (x470 gaming pro carbon)
But same file as beta ?

7B78v29 is new one
- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3ab
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #285 on: 22-July-19, 22:50:19 »

Again, they did not upload the new file. If you download the 'latest' 7B78v29.zip file linked to on the website it's just the 29M beta.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #286 on: 23-July-19, 00:13:54 »

Looks like they updated the download finally.

Unfortunately, it's the same 7B78V290 that was floating around a week ago for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.

The most notable bug of the PCI-E 1 slot only operating in 8x mode is still present.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #287 on: 23-July-19, 06:09:46 »

I'm finding 7B78v290 to be even buggier than the beta. I set everything to exactly the same as I had in the beta, and my machine just wouldn't boot. Good times.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #288 on: 23-July-19, 07:25:36 »

Do you guys report about it to MSI?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #289 on: 23-July-19, 09:25:42 »

Hey just wanted to tell that I had the same issue and looks like the problem is in the cluster size of the flash drive. For whatever reason it's readable only with 32 block division. Format the drive and copy the BIOS file there and it should read it without issues. Got my CPU to work, but on the stable release of the BIOS, there are no overclocking options available for the CPU and any changes to the RAM except XMP profile crashes the system.
Same thing in the ryzen master and MSI control center even if its a 30 Mhz change. Did windows push some update or is this MSI doing? Or just something wrong with my system? Can anyone confirm?
Do you mean  your USB stick not detected in Flashback ??   note that flashback only support FAT32 and don't support NTFS
Thank you ! Even if the drive was formatted in FAT32, I just couldn't get it working. I just borrowed one and it worked fine.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #290 on: 23-July-19, 13:31:02 »

So I've gotten 3700x to post and boot into Windows on NVME ssd w/ BIOS v2.9o

was unable to do this w/ v.2.9m

also: had to remove one stick of RAM to clear debug LED to get it to POST.  Also initially had VGA debug led and had to power cycle a few times before it would POST.

there was some weirdness initially when it has been running in "Ultimate Performance" power-mode; a few random black screens, some freezing.  Maybe that's just teething issues. Went to Ryzen balanced mode and it seems more-stable

Would appreciate it if people report any success/problems they've had w/ the 2.9o BIOS and X470 GPC

I dont know if i'm experiencing the PCI x8 bug or not?> CPUID reports "link width = x8, Max supported = x16 "
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #291 on: 23-July-19, 14:02:29 »

had to remove one stick of RAM to clear debug LED to get it to POST.

Speaking of which, has anyone else figured out how to run multiple DRAM sticks in v2.9o?  When i tried reinstalling the RAM it again refused to POST and just hung w/ Debug LED
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #292 on: 23-July-19, 15:40:19 »

What is weird about the RAM issue is that I have a pair, and only one of the pair fails to POST. The other works just fine. So it's not a dual-channel thing.

I'm able to get around the issue by pulling the 'bad' stick (It ran just fine with the 2700x on my gaming pro carbon), booting, setting the XMP profile, turning the system off, and I put the 'bad' stick back in. The system then runs just fine.

It's this RAM issue, and the PCI-E 16x slot suck in 8x mode bug that are the most annoying right now on the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #293 on: 23-July-19, 15:57:43 »

What is weird about the RAM issue is that I have a pair, and only one of the pair fails to POST. The other works just fine. So it's not a dual-channel thing.

I'm able to get around the issue by pulling the 'bad' stick (It ran just fine with the 2700x on my gaming pro carbon), booting, setting the XMP profile, turning the system off, and I put the 'bad' stick back in. The system then runs just fine.

It's this RAM issue, and the PCI-E 16x slot suck in 8x mode bug that are the most annoying right now on the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.

Yeah i just tried this (setting XMP profile first, then shutting down and installing second stick)

The CPU debug LED lights up and it doesn't post; not a DRAM warning, CPU led - which suggests to me there's some setting where dual channel memory isn't enabled for the processor by default? Idk where i'd find this.  I poked around the BIOS and didn't see anything relevant.

I don't think i have a 'bad stick' - tho i haven't tried swapping them out and running each by itself yet.  The LEDs above the memory slots both light up when they're installed, which i thought meant the individual sticks were ok.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #294 on: 23-July-19, 16:01:15 »

I never had a CPU warning light. It was only ever the RAM light that stayed on. Something is borked with your system, and I would see if a prior generation CPU still works.

Even with this beta 3000 series BIOS my 2700x ran lovely on it, it's only when having to run a 3000 series CPU that all the bugs happen.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #295 on: 23-July-19, 16:01:51 »

Where is the Gear-Mode option in the bios? I'm not seeing it and it would be nice to have so it wont round up on an odd number for the cas latency.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #296 on: 23-July-19, 20:38:21 »

I never had a CPU warning light. It was only ever the RAM light that stayed on. Something is borked with your system, and I would see if a prior generation CPU still works.

Even with this beta 3000 series BIOS my 2700x ran lovely on it, it's only when having to run a 3000 series CPU that all the bugs happen.


I ran a 2600 fine with same RAM kit under BIOS v.2.8 and also the beta v2.9M

I've also tested both sticks (and booted with them) so there's nothing wrong w/ the kit.

The 3700x also posted fine with both sticks of RAM under 2.9M - it just didn't boot to Windows (which i think was a problem w/ NVME; not sure, it just gave me endless spinning windows wheel)

Under BIOS v2.9o, for whatever reason, the CPU refuses to post when there's 2 sticks of memory installed.  It gives CPU Debug LED warning and just sits there w/ power on but never POSTs.

I assume if the CPU was fine w/ 2 sticks in v2.9M (at least to POST with), its a BIOS problem and not a borked CPU memory controller

Assuming MSI is to blame here seems a safe bet.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #297 on: 23-July-19, 22:51:08 »

**addendum:

The CPU debug, it turns out, only lights up when XMP profile was active and 2 sticks of RAM were installed

When everything in BIOS was completely wiped and tried the same, the DRAM debug LED is indicated.

So i assume its just a kit of RAM that Matisse no like (*despite being on the early QVL list)
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near a month now and nothing for the x470 m7 ac bios, its a disgrace, ill be jumping ship asap, and wont touch msi again,

with such heat in my country and the voltages ramped high, instability and a not fully functioning bios, its just not acceptable.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #299 on: 25-July-19, 04:54:18 »

i'm sure that MSI will publish stable bios for x370/x470 soon.

and i want to ask if anyone right now run this system -->   X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM + 3900x and its work for him?

i have also  x370 titanium + 3900x but i still didn't try it
and i ask because i want to know if should I wait for the stable bios or use the beta

thanks ,nir.
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