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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #350 on: 09-August-19, 15:00:00 »

Hoping for some B350 love soon.
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If I update the BIOS of my regular MSI B450M Mortar motherboard (not the MAX-model!), does it support higher DDR4-speeds than specified then? Specification says,
MSI B450M Mortar MAX motherboard specification says,
Thanks in advance
I had my 3000Mhz DDR4 at 3400Mhz on an older BIOS. Now using a 3700X I can only get it to 3200Mhz stable.
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If I update the BIOS of my regular MSI B450M Mortar motherboard (not the MAX-model!), does it support higher DDR4-speeds than specified then? Specification says,
MSI B450M Mortar MAX motherboard specification says,
Thanks in advance
Yes, it does.
I'm running my RAM at 3800MHz cl16 with BIOS v18, non-MAX model.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #353 on: 15-August-19, 09:35:01 »

OMG, 45 days, from previous BETA bios release (01 July 2019), still silence from MSI...
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #354 on: 15-August-19, 14:57:16 »

OMG, 45 days, from previous BETA bios release (01 July 2019), still silence from MSI...

and complaining here helps no one......contact them instead. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #355 on: 16-August-19, 09:49:35 »

Hello guys,
Did anyone of you tried to update a b450 gaming plus to the latest bios via flashback bios button? I tried a lot of times with different usb keys 32gb (fat32) bios renamed in MSI.ROM and the result was only three blinks on the flashbios led.

At the end I surrended with flashback bios button, used a ryzen 2700x and flashed the latest bios, now ryzen 3000 works, weird that the apposite flashbios button didn't work for me.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #356 on: 17-August-19, 16:23:54 »

3900X does not work on MSI X370 Gaming Plus motherboard with beta bios.

Flashed bios BIOS 7A33v5JM(Beta version) to my MSI X370 Gaming Plus motherboard, using a Ryzen 1400. The actual file name is "E7A33AMS.5JM." This is what it shows in the bios.

The BIOS build date says "9/20/17". <- Yes I typed that correctly.

Will not post with a Ryzen 3900X.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #357 on: 19-August-19, 00:26:33 »

Hello guys,
Did anyone of you tried to update a b450 gaming plus to the latest bios via flashback bios button? I tried a lot of times with different usb keys 32gb (fat32) bios renamed in MSI.ROM and the result was only three blinks on the flashbios led.

At the end I surrended with flashback bios button, used a ryzen 2700x and flashed the latest bios, now ryzen 3000 works, weird that the apposite flashbios button didn't work for me.
Try another usb pendrive and make sure you download the correct bios for your mohterboard.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #358 on: 19-August-19, 04:37:18 »

Try another usb pendrive and make sure you download the correct bios for your mohterboard.
Already tried 3 usb keys!
I solved with a ryzen 2000 but still wondering why didn't work the flashback bios button, am I the only one?
(b450 gaming plus)
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #359 on: 23-August-19, 03:41:56 »

http://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7A40vA91.zip
File not found."

Edit: seems to work now
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #360 on: 23-August-19, 06:54:44 »

i have MSI B450-A PRO with Ryzen 3600, i tested some BIOS versions and actualy i use beta AA2. CPU voltage is too high in auto (1.45v on boost) so i change to offset and -0,027 but in Windows stay 1.45 on boost. Changed to override and set 1.42v and stay 1.45v in boost. PBO in Auto or Disable, not overclocked. Never enable Game Booster, vcore set to 1.57v!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #361 on: 23-August-19, 10:45:35 »

i have MSI B450-A PRO with Ryzen 3600, i tested some BIOS versions and actualy i use beta AA2. CPU voltage is too high in auto (1.45v on boost) so i change to offset....
What makes you think 1.45 V is too high?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #362 on: 23-August-19, 23:37:49 »

 CPU voltage is too high in auto (1.45v on boost) 

This is absolutely normal for Ryzen 3000 chips and not at all "too high"

Read the first reply to this from AMD's technical marketing guy, who has addressed questions about voltage-panic for the past 7 weeks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbbfce/3900x_being_overvolted_on_amd_ryzen_power_plans/
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #363 on: 24-August-19, 11:26:21 »

Already tried 3 usb keys!
I solved with a ryzen 2000 but still wondering why didn't work the flashback bios button, am I the only one?
(b450 gaming plus)
Did you put the USB-drive in the correct USB-slot on the motherboard? For my Mortar B450M, I had to put the USB-drive in the USB-slot closest to the Flashback-BIOS-button.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #364 on: 24-August-19, 11:47:46 »

Did you put the USB-drive in the correct USB-slot on the motherboard? For my Mortar B450M, I had to put the USB-drive in the USB-slot closest to the Flashback-BIOS-button.
Yes the usb slot closest to the flashback button :)
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #365 on: 24-August-19, 16:53:08 »

Already tried 3 usb keys!
I solved with a ryzen 2000 but still wondering why didn't work the flashback bios button, am I the only one?
(b450 gaming plus)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=322851.msg1837510#msg1837510

try to make so
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #366 on: 02-September-19, 11:10:14 »

Very satisfying when I have updated the bios, I can get 3800 Mhz RAM speed on the 3200 MHz DDR RAM TEAM, which previously I could only get a maximum OC of 3400 Mhz, after undergoing some ram testing and running very stable. Thanks MSI
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #367 on: 07-September-19, 04:49:50 »

Happy Ryzen 2 release Anniversary for everyone.
2 month with beta MSI BIOS were magnificent and full of debugging experience (I have notified MSI support about all my issues few times, without any noticeable result), so I have to sell my MSI x370 and bought Asrock Taichi x470.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #368 on: 09-September-19, 03:34:03 »

Happy Ryzen 2 release Anniversary for everyone.
2 month with beta MSI BIOS were magnificent and full of debugging experience (I have notified MSI support about all my issues few times, without any noticeable result), so I have to sell my MSI x370 and bought Asrock Taichi x470.

Yeah, it's a pretty poor experience, isn't it? I'm going back to Asus ROG or Strix for my next motherboard.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #369 on: 12-October-19, 14:20:59 »

Does the B450M PRO-M2 Bios work with 3000 series? Not sure why it's there if it doesn't. I can't find anyone on the internet who has successfully gotten them to boot.
I'm in the same boat, have 3600 chip that works on other computer and a 1700X that works fine with the B450M PRO-M2. However when putting the 3600 in, it doesn't work... And tons of other people have this issue I see on search engines.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #370 on: 14-October-19, 01:13:32 »

B450M PRO-M2 Bios work with 3000 series?

You need at least 2.8 bios which is already available in the msi website last July...
which bios version are you using that you are having bootup issue?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #371 on: 17-October-19, 10:35:34 »

Has anyone had any issues with Task Manager on Windows 10?

For whatever reason Task Manager doesn't show my rams speed.  I have no idea, what caused this. Performance is absolutely fine. No issues what so ever (besides... this I guess). Bios shows the memory overclock fine. Memtest86 passed with flying colors as usual.

I have MSIs B450i Gaming Plus AC with the latest bios update that includes AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3abba
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #372 on: 17-October-19, 10:59:40 »

It's  got to be related to amd as my system is based on intel z390 and my task manager shows it fine.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #373 on: 18-October-19, 10:31:24 »

Could be, idk. I was hoping to see if anyone else here stumbled upon this same issue.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #374 on: 20-October-19, 22:17:05 »

that seems to be amd issues...     hope next msi bios update could fix it..
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #375 on: 08-November-19, 00:22:23 »

that seems to be amd issues...     hope next msi bios update could fix it..

It probably was. I was on 7A40vAA and flashed to 7A40vAB2(Beta version)

Issue fully resolved (it was an annoyance, more than anything, never had any other complaints).
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #376 on: 08-November-19, 09:31:33 »

Has anyone had any issues with Task Manager on Windows 10?

For whatever reason Task Manager doesn't show my rams speed.  I have no idea, what caused this. Performance is absolutely fine. No issues what so ever (besides... this I guess). Bios shows the memory overclock fine. Memtest86 passed with flying colors as usual.

I have MSIs B450i Gaming Plus AC with the latest bios update that includes AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3abba


On my MSI Gaming M7 AC with the 1D2 BIOS 1.0.0.4B the RAM information reappeared with this update.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #377 on: 29-November-19, 16:54:33 »

anyone running a B350 Pro Carbon with the latest mod bios (from the support page) and a Ryzen 3000 ?? if so, all ok??
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #378 on: 14-January-20, 07:12:25 »

I get a new Beta Bios for the MSI MEG x570 Unify. I dont have a Changelog.

Download:
https://www.file-upload.net/download-13857809/7C35_a34.zip.html
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #379 on: 23-January-20, 07:58:25 »

Hi Guys, I have B450I GAMING AC with RYZEN 3600 and new Lite Bios. I need to change the default output from Discrete GPU to Integrated GPU where do I find this option ?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #380 on: 23-January-20, 21:35:53 »

Hi Guys, I have B450I GAMING AC with RYZEN 3600 and new Lite Bios. I need to change the default output from Discrete GPU to Integrated GPU where do I find this option ?

You don't. The Ryzen 3600 doesn't have an integrated GPU to use. You need a discrete GPU to use it.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #381 on: 21-March-20, 06:08:11 »

Guys I need some help please.

First of all I'd like to say that it is going to be my first time building a PC on my own from scratch so you can understand that I'm quite a newbie.

So I want to install an a Ryzen 5 3600 on MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. As you already know the motherboard needs it's BIOS updated for the new gen Ryzens.

What I was initially planning to do is to install all components normally inside the case (Mobo, RAM, CPU, GPU etc) and while everything is connected then perform the BIOS update using a usb flash drive (M-FLASH). Would that work? Will it recognice the CPU afterwards or do I have to update the BIOS without any of the other components and only then install them on an already updated motherboard?

If this question is dumb then excuse me in advance.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #382 on: 22-March-20, 01:04:51 »

Guys I need some help please.

First of all I'd like to say that it is going to be my first time building a PC on my own from scratch so you can understand that I'm quite a newbie.

So I want to install an a Ryzen 5 3600 on MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. As you already know the motherboard needs it's BIOS updated for the new gen Ryzens.

What I was initially planning to do is to install all components normally inside the case (Mobo, RAM, CPU, GPU etc) and while everything is connected then perform the BIOS update using a usb flash drive (M-FLASH). Would that work? Will it recognice the CPU afterwards or do I have to update the BIOS without any of the other components and only then install them on an already updated motherboard?

If this question is dumb then excuse me in advance.

Yeah, it'll work without a CPU. This motherboard supports BIOS flashback.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #383 on: 23-March-20, 15:53:43 »

Hi, I'm having problems with these beta BIOS on my B350M PRO-VDH and a 3400G, currently I'm on version A.JQ, I'll list them:

You can't go higher than XMP on memory frequency. This same Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200MHz Samsung B-die kit could do 3466MHz on my previous R3 1200 on this same board.
Most values on timings revert back to a 2133MHz 15-15-15 setting after saving and rebooting.
Trying to set up the memory via the AMD overclocking menu is not possible as the timings have to be written in hexadecimal, and the bios only allows decimal.
PBO doesn't change anything. AutoOC is the same, with the exception of GPU clocks, that can go to +100, anything higher than +100 is ignored.
If you try to set up a GPU clock manually, CPU voltage gets fixed to 1.5v.
GPU doesn't clock well with some combinations of settings, the workaround I've found is to set up everything except XMP first, save, reboot, set XMP on, and then it works, this removes any possibility of tewaking anything past that.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #384 on: 23-March-20, 21:03:12 »

Hi, I'm having problems with these beta BIOS on my B350M PRO-VDH and a 3400G, currently I'm on version A.JQ, I'll list them:

You can't go higher than XMP on memory frequency. This same Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200MHz Samsung B-die kit could do 3466MHz on my previous R3 1200 on this same board.
Most values on timings revert back to a 2133MHz 15-15-15 setting after saving and rebooting.
Trying to set up the memory via the AMD overclocking menu is not possible as the timings have to be written in hexadecimal, and the bios only allows decimal.
PBO doesn't change anything. AutoOC is the same, with the exception of GPU clocks, that can go to +100, anything higher than +100 is ignored.
If you try to set up a GPU clock manually, CPU voltage gets fixed to 1.5v.
GPU doesn't clock well with some combinations of settings, the workaround I've found is to set up everything except XMP first, save, reboot, set XMP on, and then it works, this removes any possibility of tewaking anything past that.
1. Overclocking isn't guaranteed. Anything over stock (for 3rd gen ryzen, I think stock is 2666) is overclocking. On top of that, you're overclocking over the manufacturer's specified speeds, so....nothing to be done.

Other than that, you're dealing with a 3rd (actually, 6th) generation CPU in a 1st generation board. And then trying to overclock every single component on top of that......
Talk to MSI directly. That's going to be the quickest way to get an answer regarding the BIOS issues. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #385 on: 24-March-20, 02:50:28 »

Thanks, I'll try that.
Stupid 16MB BIOS chips, how much money could they save with that.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #386 on: 24-March-20, 17:21:45 »

Thanks, I'll try that.
Stupid 16MB BIOS chips, how much money could they save with that.

Back when those boards were made, they weren't expecting to need it honestly. Times change, and unfortunately, with AMD's decision to make boards support many multiple generations of chips.....it was a bad decision on their part. 
Then add the fact that they changed pin-out's on the socket, and other errata that most users aren't aware of naturally.....it just becomes a HUGE :censored: -show. 
AMD's hardware is great inside the chip. After that, everything just goes downhill drastically. Maintaining backwards compatibility is great in theory, as long as things remain the same. They didn't. Add in poor AGESA/BIOS code, and here we are.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #387 on: 14-April-20, 10:08:05 »

So its now April 2020. Any improvements with this? I see 8 pages of complaints, presumingly all valid, but it was several months ago.  I have an HTPC/light gaming computer, which option is better at this point? I have excellent cooling, and this will not be overclocked.

Current Rig:
-Stable bios
-A320M Gaming Pro
-Ryzen 2200g (cooled via Noctua NH-U12S)
-Amd Radeon 480x

Option 1:
-Keep stable Bios
-Install only Ryzen 2600 (65w)

Option 2:
-Flash to basic Beta bios E7A39AMS.1KM
-Install Ryzen 3600 (65w)

Option 3:
-Wait for stable bios?
-Wait for maybe 4th gen compatibility?

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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #388 on: 14-April-20, 18:06:45 »

So its now April 2020. Any improvements with this? I see 8 pages of complaints, presumingly all valid, but it was several months ago.  I have an HTPC/light gaming computer, which option is better at this point? I have excellent cooling, and this will not be overclocked.

Current Rig:
-Stable bios
-A320M Gaming Pro
-Ryzen 2200g (cooled via Noctua NH-U12S)
-Amd Radeon 480x

Option 1:
-Keep stable Bios
-Install only Ryzen 2600 (65w)

Option 2:
-Flash to basic Beta bios E7A39AMS.1KM
-Install Ryzen 3600 (65w)

Option 3:
-Wait for stable bios?
-Wait for maybe 4th gen compatibility?

thanks all

You want what I think?
Don't bother using anything past a 2nd gen with your setup. This thread should be more than enough reason to convince you of it.

Option 2 and 3 aren't worthwhile. You'll just get tired of waiting for things to get fixed (AMD most likely won't).
If it was me, and I were thinking of 4th gen, I'd be thinking of a 600 series chipset for it. Or at a minimum, a 500 series chipset based board.

That's just my opinion.....but there should be enough reasons in this thread to support it.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #389 on: 15-April-20, 11:24:50 »

Cool man, thanks I appreciate it
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #390 on: 11-June-20, 07:10:46 »

I have a recently last 2 weeks purchased msi b450-a pro max and ryzen 3600x i connected everything and turn on pc and the display does not turn on.
the vga led stays turned on, put no screen.

I found on the Internet to remove bios battery then try again.
I found that bios should be updated using usb and press flash bios button.
I tried everything mentioned above but still nothing.

Please let me know what to do?
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #391 on: 24-June-20, 06:16:53 »

Hello All
I upgraded to a new bios 1.96 for msi meg 570X ACE ( CPU R9 3950X) .
Strange enough the older BETA bios 1.92 - AMD AGESA  ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.5. and the NEW -1.96Updated AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2 ?????????? HOW in name of god is that an UPDATE ??????
More so The new 1.96 bios completely destroyed my 3xRaid 0 configuration ( 3 x WD Blue 500 SSD) I was battling for 2 hrs to get the Raid 0 configuration back with 1.96 bios
Worse of all there is a HUUUUUGEEEEE delay while booting/posting nothing similar to any BIOS before I mean it literally stands frozen on the MEG logo for what I could estimate 1.30 min the whole boot sequence from cold start to windows LOGIN screen goes around 1.45-2min ..:censored: is that all about ???
Windows are on M.2 Gen4 Firecuda 520 so don't tell me your drive is slow as it definitely wasn't with 1.92 bios .
For all meg ACE users beware of the new 1.96 BIOS .
I also reported the issue to msi Tech support awaiting explanation

Again the mystery of AMD AGESA ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.5.5 vs AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2 on NEW BIOD 1.96 how , why ????no explanation in description
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-ACE
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I upgraded to a new bios 1.96 for msi meg 570X ACE ( CPU R9 3950X) .
Strange enough the older BETA bios 1.92 - AMD AGESA  ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.5. and the NEW -1.96Updated AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2 ?????????? HOW in name of god is that an UPDATE ??????
More so The new 1.96 bios completely destroyed my 3xRaid 0 configuration ( 3 x WD Blue 500 SSD) I was battling for 2 hrs to get the Raid 0 configuration back with 1.96 bios
Worse of all there is a HUUUUUGEEEEE delay while booting/posting nothing similar to any BIOS before I mean it literally stands frozen on the MEG logo for what I could estimate 1.30 min the whole boot sequence from cold start to windows LOGIN screen goes around 1.45-2min ..:censored: is that all about ???
Windows are on M.2 Gen4 Firecuda 520 so don't tell me your drive is slow as it definitely wasn't with 1.92 bios .
For all meg ACE users beware of the new 1.96 BIOS .
I also reported the issue to msi Tech support awaiting explanation

Again the mystery of AMD AGESA ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.5.5 vs AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2 on NEW BIOD 1.96 how , why ????no explanation in description
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-ACE

You haven't been following how poorly AMD handles its versioning of AGESA, have you? Welcome to how a major company has virtually ZERO clue how to do proper software versioning.....
You don't want to know how many different versions of 1.0.0.4 there are.....because offhand I can count at least 5 right now.

As far as the RAID and everything else, it should be possible to rebuild the array after updating the BIOS without losing any data.

Lastly, why did you update? What was your reason?
If your reason was "Because theres a new version....", welcome to how poorly AMD's BIOS code really is.
My normal speech is, "Don't update unless you're having a problem that a new BIOS is known to fix". Why? Because then you might get into the situations you're in, or many others get into where they update, it breaks something else, they flash back to an older BIOS, and the problem is still there.

(Personally, I don't care for AMD. Their hardware is really damn good, but their software is so poor it actually makes their hardware worse and harder to use than Intels.....which at this point, is about the only good thing for Intel)

1 of the AGESA versions is ComboPi4 1.0.0.5
The other is AGESA ComboPi4v2 1.0.0.2
I don't know much about, or care for, AMD's versioning structure (mainly because it's so poor), but I wouldn't be mad at MSI, I'd get mad at AMD for being so bad at it. It's not like MSI has a choice about it.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #393 on: 25-June-20, 11:56:09 »

Thanks darkhawk for the quite informative answer

Im almost 30 year INTEL user this is my first AMD build ever so my apologies for not being informed enough , I did my research and based on that I chose to build my new system with AMD . 
All I can say Im quite satisfied so far and this BIOS issue is the first I encountered .
My first update from 1.80 to 1.92 was smooth and without any issues so I didn't expect any with 1.96 although both labeled BETA .
Of course as always there is a learning curve for everything and this experience now however bad it might be is actually a good thing to learn . No essential data where lost so no damage done , more inconvenience and fiddling around .
I decided to rollback to 1.92 and luckily everything came back normally the PC  booting is now as it was before although far slower them my 5 year old Intel system Z170/I76700K it boots 3 time faster then the 2020 AMD ..however at this rate now it is satisfactorily considering AMD and what you all wrote .
Thanks nevertheless !
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #394 on: 25-June-20, 14:39:23 »

Thanks darkhawk for the quite informative answer

Im almost 30 year INTEL user this is my first AMD build ever so my apologies for not being informed enough , I did my research and based on that I chose to build my new system with AMD .
All I can say Im quite satisfied so far and this BIOS issue is the first I encountered .
My first update from 1.80 to 1.92 was smooth and without any issues so I didn't expect any with 1.96 although both labeled BETA .
Of course as always there is a learning curve for everything and this experience now however bad it might be is actually a good thing to learn . No essential data where lost so no damage done , more inconvenience and fiddling around .
I decided to rollback to 1.92 and luckily everything came back normally the PC  booting is now as it was before although far slower them my 5 year old Intel system Z170/I76700K it boots 3 time faster then the 2020 AMD ..however at this rate now it is satisfactorily considering AMD and what you all wrote .
Thanks nevertheless !

Yeah. I'm just not a fan of AMD's BIOS nor their video drivers....they're both equally poor. 
Some of their hardware really is great, and Ryzen was a terrific leap forward. But it's like having an electric car, but no place to charge it on a long distance drive. Great hardware, but the software (or charging stations) really hinder the ability to use it to it's fullest.

There's plenty of crap Intel does that is poorly executed (their recent slides on performance and comparing Ryzen 9 to an i7 is laughable....), but I'll say this. For the most part, I can throw together a system, and outside of parts actually being bad, it's very rare to have compatibility problems. AMD on the other hand....it's like every other component can cause that at this point. Sound cards do, NIC's, even some GPU's have caused issues. :/
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #395 on: 29-June-20, 08:53:30 »

MSI REALLY need to do a better job with the UI now they have switched to click-BIOS "lite", you can do a MUCH better job with the same amount of space as that horrid UI. I know because I've already designed a new UI and am using it.

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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #396 on: 29-June-20, 13:45:02 »

MSI REALLY need to do a better job with the UI now they have switched to click-BIOS "lite", you can do a MUCH better job with the same amount of space as that horrid UI. I know because I've already designed a new UI and am using it.
That sounds like you spend most of your time in the BIOS lol
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #397 on: 30-June-20, 00:13:37 »

Yeah. I'm just not a fan of AMD's BIOS nor their video drivers....they're both equally poor.
Some of their hardware really is great, and Ryzen was a terrific leap forward. But it's like having an electric car, but no place to charge it on a long distance drive. Great hardware, but the software (or charging stations) really hinder the ability to use it to it's fullest.

There's plenty of crap Intel does that is poorly executed (their recent slides on performance and comparing Ryzen 9 to an i7 is laughable....), but I'll say this. For the most part, I can throw together a system, and outside of parts actually being bad, it's very rare to have compatibility problems. AMD on the other hand....it's like every other component can cause that at this point. Sound cards do, NIC's, even some GPU's have caused issues. :/
so after some emailing back and forth with msi tech support this guys are clueless what ever the problem is with the new 1.96 bios and decided to remove it form the download page
"Reply: 2020-06-29 09:46:19


We are sorry, but it is hard to determine what causes the issue, about the boot time, please clear CMOS (How to clear CMOS. Please refer to the manual) for a try, then please recreat the RAID to check again.

About the AGESA version, in BIOS v1.92 is ComboAm4PI 1.0.0.5, in bios v1.96 is ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2, ComboAm4v2PI is the new version. "
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #398 on: 30-June-20, 07:40:36 »

That sounds like you spend most of your time in the BIOS lol
As a reviewer / overclocker yes I do end up spending a fair bit of time in the UEFI (yes UEFI, not BIOS, wrong terminology. UEFI = Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, BIOS = Basic Input Output System). I don't need or expect the UEFI UI to look fantastic but there is a certain level of effort that should be put in rather than the sub-standard stock UI and when you can do it using the same amount of ROM space as the stock UI that just shows how little effort / care MSI put in here.
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Re: BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
« Reply #399 on: 30-June-20, 14:58:00 »

As a reviewer / overclocker yes I do end up spending a fair bit of time in the UEFI (yes UEFI, not BIOS, wrong terminology. UEFI = Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, BIOS = Basic Input Output System). I don't need or expect the UEFI UI to look fantastic but there is a certain level of effort that should be put in rather than the sub-standard stock UI and when you can do it using the same amount of ROM space as the stock UI that just shows how little effort / care MSI put in here.
Cool! so "As reviewer/overclocer" you have any idea why the 1.96 BETA bios for msi meg X570 ACE is taken off the download page and what was actually going on with that bios ???
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