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Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« on: 19-July-19, 13:10:06 »

Is that cooler master Hyper H 410R cpu cooler is good for i5 8600k cpu to keep the cpu cool during 4k gaming.

Or is there any other good cpu cooler recommend for i5 8600k?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #1 on: 19-July-19, 13:15:37 »

Please stop posting in All--in-one PCs / Desktop PCs section. You don't have an MSI brand pc but just a component or components. What Mainboard do you have?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #2 on: 19-July-19, 13:16:34 »

I have msi z390 a pro motherboard
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #3 on: 19-July-19, 13:18:44 »

Moved thread to Intel boards section.

The Hyper H410R is ok as Long as you don't plan to overclock.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #4 on: 19-July-19, 13:22:10 »

And if i will turn on game boost mode in bios setting of msi motherboard  or turn on the TURBO MODE UNDER CPU.


In that condition which cpu cooler will you recommend?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #5 on: 19-July-19, 13:30:48 »

I would use Cooler Master Hyper 212. It offers more cooling potential.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #6 on: 20-July-19, 07:59:51 »

Which one is Good between 2 for CPU i5 8600K for 4k gaming at ultra settings. please suggest.

Which one will make CPU cool better out of these 2 below

Air cooler: Cooler master (Hyper 212 Evo)
Liquid cooler: Cooler master (Master Liquid ML120L RGB)

Thank you


[font="Noto Sans", sans-serif]ThaML120L RGB[/font][/color]
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #7 on: 20-July-19, 08:14:06 »

Both will perform on the same level.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #8 on: 20-July-19, 09:04:50 »

There is a huge difference in price. Liquid one is costlier than hyper.

Why i am asking currently i m using Hyper H410R and with that cpu temp is going upto 85 -90 c during 4k gaming. Which is way too high.

So please suggest best cpu cooler for i5 8600k to play 4k games in best cpu cooling.

Whether it's liquid or air cooler and which model works best here in my scenario?

I have 3 chassis intake front fans, 3 top exhaust fans and 1 rear fan installed in my chassis.

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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #9 on: 20-July-19, 09:29:42 »

Hyper 212 Evo performs a lot better than the tiny H 410R. A simple liquid cooler with a 120mm radiator does not really perform much better. For really even better results get MasterLiquid ML240
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #10 on: 20-July-19, 09:46:21 »

Thanks

So you mean Master liquid ML120L is far better than Hyper 212?

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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #11 on: 20-July-19, 09:48:36 »

No.... that is exactly what I didn't say. It is maybe a notch better but not worth the extra money. If you want far better cooling you'll need to buy MasterLiquid ML240
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #12 on: 20-July-19, 10:45:44 »

Ok i got you

But i have space for one fan for liquid cpu cooler i.e. 120mm. I don't have space for 2 radiator liquid fan in my chassis.

So please suggest the best 120mm liquid cooler for my chassis. I can't install ML240mm liquid cooler.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #13 on: 20-July-19, 11:09:45 »

There is no better 120mm liquid cooler. They are all on the same level.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #14 on: 20-July-19, 11:17:59 »

I guess master liquid ML120l is far better than HYPER H410R?

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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #15 on: 20-July-19, 11:49:28 »

And i using cooler master mb511 chassis with preinstalled 3 intake fans at front which is mf120L having 1200 Rpm with 32 cfm each.

I guess that is also a bottle neck For not so effective cooling in my chassis?

Which fans are best for intake air in front of chassis for best cooling of overall system.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #16 on: 20-July-19, 11:59:00 »

No that is irrelevant. Besides you could even use a 360mm radiator in the front or a 240mm radiator in the top. It is rubbish that you can only use a 120mm radiator.

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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #17 on: 20-July-19, 12:02:38 »

Honestly, you've got a i5 8600k. 

Unless you're trying to do a ton of overclocking, even a cheap, basic CPU cooler is going to handle that CPU.
I've bought cheap $20 USD coolers for mid-grade CPU's (Ryzen 5 1500X, i5 8500) and they work just fine.

Will a water cooled cooler work better? Sure. But will you need it? Honestly, even if you're trying to overclock, it's not needed. You'll hit the limit of what that CPU can handle before you'll hit a limit with a cooler, generally speaking.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #18 on: 20-July-19, 12:15:11 »

My bad I didn't provided you the enough information.

I have already installed 2 140 mm fans at top side and 3 120mm fans which is preinstalled at front.

So i have left with one option at rear side of 120 mm liquid cooler.  I can't remove those top and front fans. Its a waste of money for me.

So thats why i have asked to use 120 mm liquid cooler at rear.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #19 on: 20-July-19, 12:18:13 »

TO DARKHAWK

IF any normal cpu cooler works here for i5 8600k then why my cpu temp is going high upto 90c during 4k gameplay?
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« Reply #20 on: 20-July-19, 13:28:09 »

My bad I didn't provided you the enough information.

I have already installed 2 140 mm fans at top side and 3 120mm fans which is preinstalled at front.

So i have left with one option at rear side of 120 mm liquid cooler.  I can't remove those top and front fans. Its a waste of money for me.

Simply replace the fan sets with a radiator...
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #21 on: 20-July-19, 13:38:46 »

I have MSI z390 a pro model which is having 4 pin water pump connector.

And MASTER LIQUID ML240 has 3 pin water pump connector. How it can be compatible with my mobo.

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml240l-rgb/

Please suggest which exact model of ML240 is compatible with my mobo
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« Reply #22 on: 20-July-19, 15:08:59 »

TO DARKHAWK

IF any normal cpu cooler works here for i5 8600k then why my cpu temp is going high upto 90c during 4k gameplay?

Too little information to even begin to provide suggestions, or an idea of what your problem is.

Airflow could easily be an issue.
Temperature of the room you're in could easily be an issue.
Mounting the heatsink could be an issue.
Thermal paste or lack of enough thermal paste could be an issue. Or maybe it's just a crappy thermal paste.
Other components and the heat they generate could play a part (along with airflow).
The size of the case and how everything is oriented (hint, airflow related) could play a part.

In the end, saying it's hitting 90C during 4k gameplay means very little to me. 
I can overclock my 1500X (which arguably generates more heat than an i5 8600K without overclock) to 4.8 GHz using a cheap $20USD cooler, some Noctua NH-2 paste, and not have heat issues. But, I have plenty of airflow, the ambient temperature of my room is approximately 23C/70F, and I don't have a ton of components that generate a lot of heat outside of the CPU. And I have a lot of experience installing coolers and applying heatsink compound that I don't have to worry about doing it incorrectly. My case is again, a generic case, but everything is oriented in a way to provide airflow to the components that require it.

So yeah, saying something generic like "CPU hits 90C during 4k gameplay" really doesn't even begin to describe what the problem is.
Even my i9 9900K, overclocked to a constant 5.1 GHz, barely hits 70C during 1440P gameplay with all settings turned to the max. In that case I'm using an older Corsair water cooling system, but even so, airflow (lots of it) where it's needed, and a good ambient temperature, and it's not hard. I couldn't do this overclock with a simple $20USD cooler, but I could still overclock it a little bit without much issue. 

So yes, a simple cooler can work. But if you're going to tell me your CPU is sitting in a room with an ambient temperature of 32C/90F, and has poor airflow within the case, I'm going to say that your problem isn't the cooler and no amount of water cooling is going to make that workable.....They don't keep servers in a room that is at 32C/90F for a reason. That simple 9 degrees C of difference only adds onto the temp of the CPU. So 90C could easily become 80C....probably less, if you had it in a room at 23C/70F
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #23 on: 20-July-19, 16:51:25 »

Please suggest which exact model of ML240 is compatible with my mobo
 
Every model of ML240 is compatible. The 3-pin connector can be connected to any fan header on the board. PWM (4-pin) and voltage control (3-pin) is possible on the headers.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #24 on: 21-July-19, 21:35:06 »

Hows the performance of Corsair Hydro H100i pro rbg liquid cooler as comparable to Master liquid ML240?

And there are 2 headers in ML240 cooler. One is pwm which will go to Cpu fan header for power. And other one is 3 pin pump connector which will go to 4 pin water pump connector in z390 a pro motherboard? Right.

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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #25 on: 21-July-19, 21:43:24 »

To Darkhawk:

In my scenario. Air is not an issue. I have installed 3 120mm intake front fans, 2 140mm top exhaust fans, 1 120mm rear exhaust fan and 1 Hyper H410R cpu cooler+ msi rtx 2080 gaming trio in MB511 cooler master chassis.

Room temp is 22c. Its not an issue either with chassis airflow direction nor room temp nor thermal paste issue.

I guess its a issue with low profile cpu cooler which i am using and more importantly 3 intake front fans which has very low RPM 1200 with only 32 cfm airflow each.

Do you have any recommendations how much RPM and CFM for intake fans are best to suck air from outside?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #26 on: 22-July-19, 12:30:43 »

Stop bumping your thread ("any idea?" - bump removed). It is not allowed.

Hows the performance of Corsair Hydro H100i pro rbg liquid cooler as comparable to Master liquid ML240?

Performance is similar. ML240 might be a notch better.

And there are 2 headers in ML240 cooler. One is pwm which will go to Cpu fan header for power. And other one is 3 pin pump connector which will go to 4 pin water pump connector in z390 a pro motherboard? Right. Thank you

4-pin pwm is for the fans and 3-pin for the pump.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #27 on: 22-July-19, 15:11:26 »

To Darkhawk:

In my scenario. Air is not an issue. I have installed 3 120mm intake front fans, 2 140mm top exhaust fans, 1 120mm rear exhaust fan and 1 Hyper H410R cpu cooler+ msi rtx 2080 gaming trio in MB511 cooler master chassis.

Room temp is 22c. Its not an issue either with chassis airflow direction nor room temp nor thermal paste issue.

I guess its a issue with low profile cpu cooler which i am using and more importantly 3 intake front fans which has very low RPM 1200 with only 32 cfm airflow each.

Do you have any recommendations how much RPM and CFM for intake fans are best to suck air from outside?

I mean....if you're going to say "airflow isn't an issue" then talk about3 intake fans at 32CFM each could be an issue? You probably haven't looked at it closely enough to figure it out.....which is becoming more clear with each post.

Instead of blatantly dismissing anything someone suggest, why not actually look at it properly? If you've got 3 fans at 32 CFM each in, and 3 fans that have a much higher exhaust volume, those intakes aren't going to do much to help and will actually slow down the ones in the back.

But even then, with those fans, it should be more than enough air flow. 

Cables blocking the air flow? 

Even that CPU cooler should be more than sufficient. 
Is the cooler oriented properly?
Are you certain you applied the thermal compound properly? How did you apply it?

I mean, the temps you're talking about make it seem like you almost don't even have the cooler attached to be honest.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #28 on: 22-July-19, 16:39:04 »

Hi

Cables are not blocking air flow. As i did very nice cable management.
Air cooler is oriented properly.
Thermal paste i have applied like everyone apply a toothpaste on his brush in morning. Starting with a big dot at centre and just make a small tail at bottom.

And will lower 32 cfm and 1200 rpm in 3 front intake fans each and higher 67 cfm and 1800 rpm at 1 rear and 2 top exhaust fan can cause any issue inside chassis. Like may be it can create vaccum suitation inside? Is that possible? Or  will it both get balanced as per heat getting generated by components? How it will work in conjunction?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #29 on: 22-July-19, 19:31:19 »

Cables are not blocking air flow. As i did very nice cable management.
Air cooler is oriented properly.
Thermal paste i have applied like everyone apply a toothpaste on his brush in morning. Starting with a big dot at centre and just make a small tail at bottom.

Which way is the cooler oriented? Are the fans on the cooler blowing towards the front of the case?
I've never applied thermal compound that way and have generally found it never produced reliable results because there were always voids and air bubbles present.

I've always applied a thin layer over the entire CPU surface using my finger. And the only times I've had issues is when I used heatsink compound that really wasn't any good.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #30 on: 22-July-19, 21:47:52 »

Fan on the cooler never blows the air outside. It always suck the air to make the heat sink cool. And my cooler fan face is on front fans side. So that it can directly suck the air which is coming from front side to inside the chassis.

So you mean you have applied thin layer of thermal paste on cpu and spread it all over the cpu with your fingers? Right
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #31 on: 23-July-19, 18:34:23 »

Fan on the cooler never blows the air outside. It always suck the air to make the heat sink cool. And my cooler fan face is on front fans side. So that it can directly suck the air which is coming from front side to inside the chassis.

So you mean you have applied thin layer of thermal paste on cpu and spread it all over the cpu with your fingers? Right

Ok. That rules out the fans blowing the wrong way.

That really only leaves 1 thing that could probably be causing the problem. The thermal compound.

What compound are you using?

Have you tried applying it different from what say you have?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #32 on: 23-July-19, 19:22:34 »

Hi

I m just confused why are you saying fans blows out. Cpu cooler fan always suck the air instead of blowing out?

I have used same thermal compound which comes with Hyper H410R inside the new box by cooler master.

I will reapply again as you said. Will let you know.

Just one thing do i need to clean previous thermal compound before applying the new one or just spread over old one? Which method is recommended.

And if i have to clean old thermal compound paste, then how to do it?
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #33 on: 24-July-19, 07:22:45 »

Clean old compound off. Use something like a credit card to scrape most of it off and then get some rubbing alcohol (at least 95%) and using on a rag to get the rest of the stuff off. Clean both CPU and pump.
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Re: Cpu cooler i5 8600k
« Reply #34 on: 24-July-19, 07:24:07 »

Sure, Thank you.

Will let you know the last result.
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