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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #50 on: 04-January-06, 07:04:53 »

Well curiosity got the better of me and I opened mine up to take a peek. See here

There does seem a filter at the back of the lens but maybe it is just not man enough for the job -- maybe by design. I wish I could get my hands on an IR filter to check to see if this would cure it.

I also wrote to MSI but I think they'll probably just ask me to send it back rather than waste time on it.

Let's see what happens.
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« Reply #51 on: 04-January-06, 07:13:23 »

Congratulations for taking the initiative and opening the cam up!  At least you seem to have have got the most of your purchase in one piece and in many!  17 quid well spent...

It was interesting to see the filter inside even if it's not up for the job - lets see what MSI have got to say...

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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #52 on: 04-January-06, 08:01:35 »

Yes, it is right, the sensor is IR sensitive even if the IR LEDs are off, just see these pictures of my SE t630's infraport:


IR OFF

IR ON

Wonder if there's a material at home that fills out the ir lights...

My one had something in it so I took a screwdriver and opened it. Ther was a little piece of plastik that made the noise. I thought the cam was broken or something but it was just a mistake of the manufactoring.
I aslo found that article a few days ago. I didn't check the lense for that film.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #53 on: 04-January-06, 08:04:25 »

attar: Of course I did manage to put it back together successfully as well.

I suggest only to open the beastie up if you are confident -- I spent over 10 years as a hardware engineer. :grin:

Then again there is no reason to do so ... unless one wants to kill the annoying bottom shooting LED's which some genius decided should always come on when the Starcam powers up.

szucsati: good bit of lateral thinking there -- now to get our hands on a piece of IR blocking film!
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« Reply #54 on: 04-January-06, 08:11:05 »

So Keeboudi, with your knowledge of all things hardware (and with a soldering iron and steady hand) do you think the white LEDs could be swapped for the IR ones?  Might the voltage/power match?  That way the base won't be lit and you can choose to add a little extra full spectrum light to stop you looking like Dracula when using the cam in low light!  :shocking:
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« Reply #55 on: 04-January-06, 08:25:57 »

Hard to tell without looking at the circuit diagram or taking some measurements as the different kind of LEDs may be driven differently like you suggest.

Not sure I want to drag my oscilloscope out from storage just yet! I suppose one could go the 'suck it and see' route and just try it ... but hey, I am not responsible for any fried cams!

The soldering/de-soldering would also be a bit of a challenge for the inexperienced as it uses a double (or more) layer PCB.

May one suggest a table lamp?  :idea:

If you really want to do it then let me know and I'll give u a few tips.
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« Reply #56 on: 04-January-06, 08:28:59 »

Come back valves... all is forgiven!

Thanks for the warning...  :biggthumbsup:
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #57 on: 04-January-06, 08:47:48 »

It seems the film is on the sensor itself. Check this: LINK

There's a film on the brown socket. Invisible in the picture. I did the "remote controller test"  :biggthumbsup: and the result is the sensor reacts for the infra light.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #58 on: 04-January-06, 11:50:50 »

Hm... I think I misunderstood the article (no wonder with my English..). So the 370i doesn't have an added stuff but it misses the infra filter wich is in (almost) every other cams.

"Looking at the lens assembly in the picture you can see a small square of glass stuck in the back. Though it appears clear in the picture above, it has a red tint to the eye as shown here. (...) This piece of glass is the Infra Red Filter. It stops IR light getting through to the sensor. For our purpose this is bad so remove this piece of glass."
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #59 on: 04-January-06, 13:39:28 »

It's me again :).

I had an idea. I tried if the lense of my other cam fits the StarCam and it did!! Here are the examples:



These were taken by the SC with the other lense. As it can be seen it's not perfect. The cam remained IR sensitive a little but it's much better! If I try the remote controllel test, the Mercury is IR sensitive with it's original lense. With the SC's lense everything comes up so ugly as with the original SC. So it looks like we found the problem!

One strange thing is with the Mercury's lense the SC reacts very slowly for the movement  :think: . I need an IR filter layer into my cam! Maybe a removable one...
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« Reply #60 on: 04-January-06, 15:42:55 »

Congratulations Szucsati!  A brilliant piece of detective work!

I wonder if this has anything to do (intentionally or otherwise) with the fact that the SC has a glass lens - which they make such a big play of on the cam's spec?  It would be interesting to hear if the Mercury lens is plastic and therefore has inherent IR blocking properties!

Well done!
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« Reply #61 on: 05-January-06, 09:03:09 »

Well done Szucsati

In my SC, there is definitely a film at the back of the lens and I am pretty sure this is the filter. In the picture I took with my mobile phone, it is not very clear but you can see it shows up red.

When I look at it closely, it is a square bit of film glued at the back of the lens. What I am thinking is that either it is just not filtering enough or it is faulty. If one could get hold of some IR filter film then I suppose one could just replace it or add to it as another layer. It may make the picture darker though. Some more experimentation is order I think!

I also tried your trick with a TV remote control and you could clearly see the pulsing IR coming from it. A great way to check a remote is working...

Now to decide whether I should return the Starcam or keep it and fiddle ... I like the bendy stem -- I think I will wait to hear from MSI support first.

PS. Please tell us -- how do you embed the pictures into your posts?
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #62 on: 05-January-06, 11:41:45 »

Wow keeboudi, there were four words in your post that I had to look up in the dictionary  :biggthumbsup: .

Here are some closer pics of that layer:


I didn't notice it's really a film. I saw the lens was red but I was looking for this film near the sensor.
Btw the lens comes out withouth opening the cam so if you have an other webcam you can try it's lens easily. And if you have one you can check that they also shows the light of the remote control. I asked some of my friends to check it with their webcam.

I don't think MSI would accept the cam in RTM since it looks like it is normal.

PS: to insert an image press the second button in the second line when posting. Under the 'italic'.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #63 on: 05-January-06, 11:58:47 »

As for the cam being normal ... it isn't really fit for the purpose it was sold as the colours are sooo wrong!

I am sure the retailer I bought it from would take it back but I am waiting to see what MSI say. Their first reply was this:

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I wrote:
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Problem Description: I have found that the webcam doesn't display colours correctly.

It seems that infra-red (not from the LED's but from normal lighting) seems to be getting through to the sensor.

Is this by design or is it a fault with my unit (and seemingly a few others)?

Please see https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=90313.0 for descriptions and samples.

Many thanks

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Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Thank you for contacting MSI UK support.
 
We have not met the extreme colour issues you are detecting with your starcam, we have found in all our tests on a number of systems that the colour recognition meets the standards of the webcam design. The image can be adjusted significantly by using the AMCap config utility if using this viewer.

If you are unhappy with your webcam or believe it is faulty you can return it to your place of purchase under your warranty with them.
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Not much help but I wrote back!

I wonder if this image thing works -- please indulge my furry friends  :laugh:



I get it now ... just needed to insert the link between the tags so still need to upload the image somewhere else (am I doing this right?)
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #64 on: 05-January-06, 13:30:30 »

Hi furry guys :)! But please don't forget not to insert too large images because it makes the forum slow.

Yes I also got the reply to return my device to the store where I had bought it. The problem is it is exactly 1000 miles away from here.. And SC is not on the market here furthermore I have no warranty papers...

Wish MSI had more time to test the devices in a normal room not in a bright office. And wish a designer could explain how this filter works in the SC.
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« Reply #65 on: 05-January-06, 13:50:45 »

Hi All

I've just dug out my old Creative webcam and that set of screwdrivers I got in the 99p bin at Maplin.

I tried the Creative webcam (which used to see colour OK) with the SB lens and I got the same result as szucsati!  See here...

You will also see that the Creative lens had a filter on the back of it which looked identical (or at least very similar) to the filter on the SC.  I realise that, even though they look the same, they might not be.  My money is still on the glass versus plastic lens theory - not popular I know, but I'd put a shiny ten pound note on it!

So... I concur it's not the sensor, it's the lens...

PS: Nice hamsters! Little ones too!
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #66 on: 05-January-06, 14:21:51 »

Do you have a thick piece of clear and transparent plastic...?


Here you can download the reference driver for the chipset. It has really cool effects X-(( and zoom function. Unfortunately it can't control the infra leds.
There is a datasheet as well with circuit, etc.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #67 on: 06-January-06, 10:01:01 »

Attar -- why not swap the filters over and see if it 'fixes' the SC. Steady hand needed.

I took a look at the cct. diag. but as it is a reference design it does not show the IR LEDs. As I said before, they could just be cut -- maybe one leg on each only -- if they are bothersome

PS. Can I just say that they are Guinea Pigs and not hamsters and were 3 days old in this picture!

PPS. szucsati -- what sort of image size is OK as a rough guide ... I am new to this foruming business... this one I thought was quite small (only 55kB)
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« Reply #68 on: 06-January-06, 10:51:37 »

That image is just fine. If you post one that is outragious I will be sure to let you know. Untill then keep at it. I find the topic interesting so don't mind me reading over your shoulders a bit here.
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« Reply #69 on: 06-January-06, 12:52:15 »

Well I had a second reply from MSI tech:

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Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Thank you for contacting MSI UK support.
 
It is impossible for us to judge these individual cases, as there are too many external factors such as lighting conditions in the rooms in question, the environment will play a part.  We do not think your camera is faulty but obviously we cannot be 100% sure, we believe it is more likely a combination of different environmental factors that have caused your colour representation issues. 
 
Best Regards,
 
MSI (UK) Technical Support
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I think they either have not read this thread properly or don't want to commit but it is fairly clear that the cams we have experimented with are IR oversensitive. Now whether this is a design 'feature' or fault depends on whether we just had a bad batch or not. I wrote one final email to them and await an answer but I think I will give up after that.

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« Reply #70 on: 06-January-06, 14:46:25 »

ok me to, got my spacecam today and when i first set it up the colours were ok, but as the day has gone on the colours are distorted. not being to tech minded, i had a fiddle with the settings and haven't been able to change it much. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/xmickix1/michelle1.jpgbeleive me, i do not have a blue rinse!
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« Reply #71 on: 06-January-06, 16:04:09 »

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when i first set it up the colours were ok, but as the day has gone on the colours are distorted.

seems to me this camera gives better results with natural daylight, than in artificial light

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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #72 on: 06-January-06, 20:37:32 »

keeboudi MSI do not read the forum. They look at it as User to User tech support. Sorry to disappoint but we like it better this way in here. If you want MSI to see something you have to copy out what you want them to see and mail it to them.
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« Reply #73 on: 07-January-06, 09:28:46 »

Tiresmoke -- I did send them the link to this thread ... do you think they wouldn't click it?
Should I actually send them the pix as attachments?

I am thinking though that in the end, this is a a design 'feature' and so they wouldn't consider it a fault.

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« Reply #74 on: 07-January-06, 12:06:23 »

We have all given them links before. As far as I can see they don't click it to see whatever is on the forum. However when we send them the info via mail they tend to respond. Just my observation.
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« Reply #75 on: 12-January-06, 10:09:50 »

Anyone found an IR filter film/material? I still haven't :(.
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« Reply #76 on: 16-January-06, 04:22:24 »

Scuzati -- I haven either but I had this from MSI support:
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Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Thank you for contacting MSI UK support.
 
From the photos you have sent it seems your camera is not displaying the colour correctly, as we have been unable to duplicate the problem we can only assume that your camera is faulty and as such need to be returned to your place of purchase for exchange.  IR sensitivity is not a "feature" of our camera, however as you are aware the camera is designed to work in very low light conditions and has options to enable this, however this should not affect the normal operation of our star cam.
 
Best Regards,
 
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I think I will send it back to see if an exchange will help ... in your case however, this is not possible ... maybe you can transplant xthe IR filter from some other (dead or unused) webcam?

I'll post here if the replacement cures the problem
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« Reply #77 on: 16-January-06, 04:44:41 »

What is the serial number of your cam? Please write it down before you send it back. It may be a wrong seria if the replacement device works fine. If yes, I could try to get it replaced withouth papers. But first see if your new one is better. I'm afraid it will take one or two weeks to get the other one.

My number is: S1B-0403012-M630511002*** (I hid the las three digits)

:shocked: I think it means the cam was made in  March, 2004 !! How can it be? Was it in the warehouse for 1,5 year??

Please everybody who has this problem check the serial number!
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« Reply #78 on: 16-January-06, 09:32:29 »

It's similar ...  S1B-0403012-M630611001***
Not sure if that is a date code though ... I doubt it actually

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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #79 on: 16-January-06, 09:55:24 »

I see there's been a lot more conversation on the subject of colour quality since I was last here.

It doesn't seem to like coloured plastic very much.

Take a look at this toy tractor which I was going to sell on ebay. In reality, the wheels are the same colour as the body, but not in the picture.




Here's another example much worse. This model railway wagon in reality is actually green. It's virtually the same colour green as BP Petrol stations. It's picked up the red and yellow not too badly.



Both these pitcures were taken inside, but in natural daylight in front of french windows facing south with the light coming from behind the webcam.

Again this wagon is made of plastic.

The serial number of my webcam is identical to the one in zsucsati's post.
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« Reply #80 on: 16-January-06, 10:15:51 »

What's most frustrating is that the picture quality can be quite good, and certain colours on certain surfaces seem fine. These are spot on.
It does seem to like red, but it has to be red on metal, not red on plastic.





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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #81 on: 16-January-06, 10:32:13 »

paulxdg -- I am certain that this is an IR sensitivity issue. Different surfaces abrorb/reflect IR differently hence the differences you are seeing.
Nice wheels! :-))
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #82 on: 16-January-06, 10:42:36 »

Thanks.

I'm putting them on ebay later.  :grin:

That's why I bought this webcam, as a cheap way to take pics.

I didn't want to lay out for a digital camera.

At the moment the items I can sell are limited to one's of a certain colour and material.

You could be right about the IR. The snapshot button on the side is also a bit of an own goal in the design department too. It gives you camera shake.
Luckily I found a site with a modified version of amcap which includes an easy snapshot function just by hitting ctrl-L on the keyboard. It's also got a delay timer. Very useful. Unfortunately it had no effect on the colour perception.
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« Reply #83 on: 25-January-06, 04:27:24 »

Hello Guys,

I have had exactly the same problem as everyone here. It was driving me nuts trying to figure out was was going on. My mate has the same cam but he didn't seem to have the problem. So I took my cam over to his place and it was fine! The colours were normal! Took it back home, colours all messed up again. We have identical machines! So Last night I thought I'll try it on my laptop instead of the tower. Set it all up same problem. But then I started to walk around the house with it. And as soon as I stepped into the hallway all of the colours were normal! Stepped back into the living room, colours messed up! So I walked around the house doing this and found it worked in the kitchen and the hallway. That's when I realised it was the ambient light source that was causing the problem. The Hallway had an energy saver bulb (fluorescent light) and the kitchen had fluorescent light. The rest of the house tungsten. I phoned my friend and asked him what light source he has, it was an energy saver (fluorescent light). What's the bet that these things are built and tested in a factory with strip fluorescent lighting... So the question is now do I send the cam back or replace my tungsten bulbs with fluorescent energy saving ones?

The link below explains that about 90% of the energy Tungsten bulbs emit is in the form of heat (also called infrared radiation) and that fluorescent bulbs used in your home emit only around 30% of their energy in heat.

http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/faqs/halogen.htm#1

So the IR filter in this cam is definitely letting in IR light and this seems to be why the colours are screwed.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #84 on: 25-January-06, 06:44:19 »

Hi Stage -- After all that kerfuffle with IR sensitivity I noticed the same thing ... it worked quite well with a small energy saver (ES) bulb (even though the room was quite dark, the image quality was pretty good) but as soon as I turned on the 300W Halogen uplighter, I turned into a ghost again.

This leads me to conclude that Tungsten and Halogen lights probably have a high IR content and the ES ones don't. I also was thinking the same thing ... should I send it back or keep it.

Plus points are the flexibilty of the stem and quite good image quality but the colour problem is a definite minus -- decisions decisions  ;D
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #85 on: 25-January-06, 07:29:28 »

If what you guys are saying is correct, then the only way to take photos with this webcam is under an ES light source, not even natural sunlight is an option since it contains infra red, unless your windows happen to be made of plexiglass which filters infrared.

Actually there's an interesting test. Take the laptop outside and see if the colour problem still occurs. Then go try it inside a car. If the windscreen is made of plexiglass, it should filter infra red. I wonder if anyone has double glazing made from plexiglass. If so they should be ok too.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #86 on: 25-January-06, 07:34:24 »

Sounds like too much hard work!
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #87 on: 25-January-06, 11:18:15 »

Yes but it would confirm the infra red theory.

So far the best results I've had for taking pictures is in daylight at dusk, or when its very cloudy.

As the sun sinks below direct infra red diminishes, and since water blocks infra red, that may explain why the photos are better when its cloudy.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #88 on: 25-January-06, 11:19:43 »

I should have added that I've been to Tesco's this afternoon to get an energy saver light bulb to try.

Hope it's not a waste of £1.97!!
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #89 on: 25-January-06, 11:48:42 »

Let me know if the Tesco light works, I don't have much chance to test the thing during daylight at i'm not home, being winter and all. But I'll give it a go if i get a chance. I wonder if MSI could put a stonger filter in this cam that would make it work in IR light conditions but not disable their "night view". They could have made a machanical switch filter, pop it down "filter in" (normal light mode), pop it up "filter out" (night mode), a million ways to avoid the colour problem. Poor show by MSI to release to Market in its current state.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #90 on: 25-January-06, 12:05:40 »

Well guys, what can I say.

Here's the before with a 100W cheapy standard light bulb




And here's the 20W supposedly 100W equivalent General Electric Eco from your local tesco.



Both pictures were taken on the default settings in amcap, i.e. after clicking on reset.

The colour is a little washed out, but then it is the default settings. It's one hell of a lot better than in natural daylight or under cheapy lightbulbs.

It you check the picture of the railway wagon on the previous page, it doesn't even look green in natural daylight, it looks brown and under the cheapy lightbulb above.........

If I wanted to be a little picky, I'd say that the energy saver bulb is pushing the reds into the orange part of the spectrum.  I'll try a bit of tweaking. At least it can now see green.

This does look like proof that the boys at msi concentrated too much on infra red capture at the expense of normal operation.



I thought I'd add these as a further example of the vast difference depending on the light source.

Dark Grey/Black woollen hat taken under cheapy light buld




And taken under eco light bulb



I assure you that the 2 pictures are of the SAME hat.

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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #91 on: 15-February-06, 08:08:04 »

just thought i'd pop back to add, after reading this latest development i to rushed out and bought energy saving light bulbs and my colour has improved greatly to. extremely happy with the cam now.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #92 on: 15-February-06, 10:43:13 »

Sounds like a good resolution to this then. Glad to hear that folks are doing OK with this cam.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #93 on: 15-February-06, 11:26:31 »

Yeah but it should really work with normal lights!
Here's what MSI had to say:

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Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Thank you for contacting MSI UK support.
 
We have had a similar report from another forum user, and we have taken their findings onboard and hope to replicate the issue, and if an issue is discovered then we will attempt to rectify the issue in the next version of our star cam.  Thank you for your feedback it is most helpful to us!
 
Best Regards,
 
MSI (UK) Technical Support

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Here's hoping they will give us new and improved lens assemblies (F.O.C  ;-))) when they make them!

I also found this from here http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_classroom/ask_astronomer/faq/radiation.shtml
Seems like plexiglass blocks IR so if anybody's got some give it a go! As water seems to as well, perhaps a plastic bag or clear glass filled with water might demostrate the principle.

What materials block, reflect, absorb or emit infrared light?

Thermal infrared, which corresponds to wavelengths longer than about 5 microns is a direct measure of temperature. One simple material that blocks IR is plexiglass. We use it in a demonstration of infrared radiation and the greenhouse effect. Also, water is a good absorber of IR. Hence, one must get above the atmosphere's water vapor to conduct most infrared astronomy measurements. Any good mirror should also be capable of reflecting infrared light. Most ground-based telescopes that observe in the "near-infrared" (betweewn 1 and 2.5 microns) rely on the same telescopes as for optical astronomy. Finally, thermal IR is a measure of heat, and *any* object above absolute zero (-273 C) emits infrared radiation. The hotter a source, the more IR light it emits.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #94 on: 20-February-06, 03:07:54 »

Has anyone got information about this webcam?:
http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=598#fea

It is about 35 eur, so not too expensive. I think it has many ir leds so maybe it makes better pictures in dark. I'm very interested in a comparisation with the SC370i. No wonder, there's no reseller for the cam in Hungary...
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #95 on: 10-March-06, 16:15:34 »

I've just bought this cam, and had it working quite well at work. Although initially it wouldn't work at all. I had downloaded the latest drivers (5.3.0.1) and I got no picture and the thing just froze, so eventually I tried the drivers on the CD and it worked fine. Unfortunately I've now got home but left the CD at work grrrrrrr. I downloaded the latest drivers again but had the same problem. Can anyone send me the version of the driver from the CD? I won't be back at work for a few days.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #96 on: 10-March-06, 18:50:36 »

ash_gb,

come back tomorrow, i will see if i can zip them and upload to my webspace for you
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #97 on: 14-March-06, 18:57:16 »

come back tomorrow, i will see if i can zip them and upload to my webspace for you
Please, my CD does not work at all and the latest drivers just crash.  I am hoping the drivers on the CD are older and actually work.
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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #98 on: 15-March-06, 13:05:13 »

the drivers on the CD are the same as those on the website

start your own thread if you want help, and post full details of your system

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Re: StarCam 370i - low quality colour
« Reply #99 on: 15-March-06, 13:13:31 »

I posted about my problem in this thread.

Also, for everyone's info, new drivers were released today:

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=604&kind=10

I have not tried them (currently at work) to see if they fix my problem, but fingers crossed :)
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