Bios compatability

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What bios version do i need? I have downloaded all of them but uncertain which one i should install and if i need to install one version at a time. I have installed the one that came out of the box. Buught the mobo around 1,5 years ago.

MAG X570s Tomahawk MAX WIFI
Ryzen 3600x
3080ti
ram 4400 currently at 3600
 
Usually you would just install the latest one, because it includes all the fixes of the previous ones plus some new ones. The updates are always what's called cumulative, they include all previous fixes. Incremental updates (only new fixes) only make sense with really large software, where you want to save space with smaller updates.
 
Usually you would just install the latest one, because it includes all the fixes of the previous ones plus some new ones. The updates are always what's called cumulative, they include all previous fixes. Incremental updates (only new fixes) only make sense with really large software, where you want to save space with smaller updates.
Thx for the reply. I used to have a Asrock mobo before and there i needed to upfate 1 biosversion at a time. This is alot better, ill install only the latest bios. Was a bit afraid considering i have a ryzen 3600x which is old and the new bios would only be for the new CPUs. Now i just need to figure out why my bios are not showing in flashdrive. I just bought a new usb stick And formated it as exFAT. It used to be alot easier back in the days or im just getting to old.
 
Was a bit afraid considering i have a ryzen 3600x which is old and the new bios would only be for the new CPUs.

No, they don't remove support for 1000-, 2000- and 3000-series on any AM4 board, and on a MAX board they don't remove support for old CPUs at all, since the MAX boards all have bigger BIOS chips. Actually all X570 boards should have the bigger BIOS chips, so there is never a need to remove support for old CPUs.

On some older AM4 boards like B350 or B450 non-MAX, they sometimes removed support for the oldest CPUs from a certain BIOS version onwards, because the BIOS chip was only 16 MB big and they needed to make room to support the newest CPU models. However, the CPUs for which support was removed were very old, some of the first ones for the AM4 socket like the A-series CPUs (you probably don't even know them).

Now i just need to figure out why my bios are not showing in flashdrive.

You are in M-FLASH, and is the whole USB stick not showing, or is it showing, but not the update itself? Several things to try. If the whole USB stick is not showing, try formatting to NTFS instead. If the file is not showing, make sure you actually extracted the ZIP file to get the BIOS file.
 
Thx for the reply. I used to have a Asrock mobo before and there i needed to upfate 1 biosversion at a time. This is alot better, ill install only the latest bios. Was a bit afraid considering i have a ryzen 3600x which is old and the new bios would only be for the new CPUs. Now i just need to figure out why my bios are not showing in flashdrive. I just bought a new usb stick And formated it as exFAT. It used to be alot easier back in the days or im just getting to old.
It worked. Thank you!
 
Evening everyone. I have the same question. I just upgraded from the mobo (ASrock) that came in my prebuilt to my new MSI MPG Z690 wifi EDGE DDR4 mobo.
Im running an I7-12700kf /32GB CL16 3600 Trident DDR4 ram/RTX3080/ windows11/MSI mpg Z690 wifi edge DDR4. I wanted to ask if i need to update the BIOS or get any drivers that windows
didn't install during the updates. I have NOT updated anything on the mobo as of yet. I wanted to check in with the forums to see if i need a bios update for my chipset or anything. The version i am running currently is whatever was on it str8 out of the box 1.90 i believe. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you everyone.
 
With your board and a 12th gen Intel, there is no "need" to update the BIOS (since the CPU already runs), however, it's still advised, and it's best to do that before installing Windows, because in some cases it can mess with the Windows activation (fix). By using the latest BIOS at the time, you can somewhat ensure that you will hopefully encounter the least amount of bugs later. BTW, they always fix a bunch more stuff than what's in the changelogs.

Anyway. Generally i would do it like this:

1) Install everything, then a quick basic stability test using Memtest86 Free. Prepare a USB stick with Memtest86 and boot from it by pressing F11 for the boot menu after a reboot. Enable XMP for this before testing. XMP makes the RAM run at the proper speed of DDR4-3600 (for example) instead of the safe default of DDR4-2133 or so.

2) Update the BIOS to the newest version (extract latest BIOS ZIP file to USB, enter BIOS, enter M-FLASH, and select the file to update from). This is crucial, unless you want to suffer from BIOS bugs that are long solved in newer versions. After updating, enable XMP again and set up your fan curves.

3) Install Windows.
For that, you would download the latest Media Creation Tool for Windows 11. Freshly prepare a USB drive with it (obviously on a different PC), and then boot from it by pressing F11 for the boot menu after turning on the PC, and select the USB drive there. I explained the Windows installation procedure a bit here. There is no need to set the boot order manually, Windows will automatically add itself as the boot drive. Nowaday i'd install Win11, because Win10 will only be supported for another two years, then everyone will be force-upgraded anyway. If you are concerned about the "look and feel" of Win11 and prefer Win10 there (who doesn't), see here. I see you're already using Win11, so that's good.

4) Install Intel Chipset drivers first, then Serial I/O and Management Engine (all from the MSI support site). These will get rid of all the unknown devices in the device manager and set everything up correctly for the power saving modes to work and so on. Also LAN driver, and let Windows Update check for missing updates. Reboot will be needed.
The WLAN (Driver64) and Bluetooth drivers you can get from Intel directly, they are newer.
LAN: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...el-network-adapter-driver-for-windows-10.html (Wired driver x64).
Of course the newest NVIDIA drivers (Windows Update usually serves you outdated ones).
 
Thank you Citay!! Very well informed post. I appreciate the help. Unfortunately I already installed the mobo abd am up and running. For my OS I just did the “ new hardware” and it put windows11 back into my PC like I didn’t miss a beat. I am planning on changing cases and upgrading my GPU in the next few months so I will follow the instructions when I do that. Gonna install a fresh copy of windows as well. As of now I’ll refrain from doing any BIOS updates seeing as how I didn’t do that prior to posting. Things Al seem to run with no issues atm so I’ll leave well enough alone. Thank yo again.
 
Ok, then i would do the BIOS update prior to the fresh installation you're planning, and also install the drivers that i posted. You can also install those drivers now, for your re-used Windows installation. When skipping several platform generations for example, a fresh install will always be the best, because Windows sets itself up according to the hardware and BIOS (and its settings) it detects during installation. The drivers are also quite specific to the platform that was used, and won't be ideal or won't be active anymore with the new hardware. If you just re-use your old Windows, things like the turbo modes for the CPU or the thread scheduling to the P- and E-cores of the 12th/13th gen CPUs might not always work properly. So the cleanest way will always be a fresh install of Windows.
 
I did download the MSI CENTER utility and briefly browsed thru it. Is that utility program a viable way to get the chipset drivers and such downloaded and installed ? I’ve read conflicting opinions on the MSI utility( bugs,issues) so I didn’t use that to download any drivers it suggested I install. If the MSI CENTER utility isn’t the way to go I can delete it and just grab those drivers from MSI individually…..
Basically my goal over the next few months is to completely upgrade most of what came in the Ibuypower prebuilt I bought a year ago. I feel my CPU is a good option still so I may keep that. All I have left is the case,360mmAIO, couple case fans, and the GPU. Leaning toward an Nvidia 4080. Thank yo ya gain Citay for your very helpful info. Much appreciated.
 
I don't use MSI Center at all. Update the BIOS, get the handful of drivers from Intel and MSI, install them, and you're pretty much done. MSI Center likes to meddle with the configuration sometimes, see here. As for adding a GeForce 4080, you have to check what PSU model you have.

What happens with a lot of pre-built PCs is this: They focus on a few bits which the users tend to be impressed by, such as CPU model, maybe GPU model, maybe SSD size, maybe RAM size or type (DDR5). Then they try to save money - or increase their profit, however you word it - on everything else, like motherboard model, SSD model, PSU model, by often going for one of the cheapest options on those. So you end up with a PC that has a nice CPU model and stuff, things that stick out to everyone, but is hampered by the low-end motherboard, low-end PSU and so on. Then when you want to upgrade your GPU for example, you will also have to upgrade your PSU...
 
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